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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Fermanagh => Topic started by: Brett McHugh on Wednesday 23 February 11 05:51 GMT (UK)
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Looking for a branch of the McHugh family that immigrated to Canada. Michael McHugh and his wife Mary, left Ireland with Sons John and William and Johns wife Mary. John and Mary settled in Churchville peel county in Ontario,and and had 5 Children. Mary Jane,Thomas John,Robert Henry,Willam James,and Charles Wesley.
If you are related or have any information on this McHugh family please let me know.
Thanks.
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Hi,
Can you give us some idea of dates?
Regards
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This seems to be the problem. I cannot locate any definate dates that our family left Ireland.
I know that John's father Michael and his Mother Mary left with them,and Mary was born in 1765. John was born in 1818 and Johns wife Mary was born in 1821. William was born in 1808. The first real date I can verify in Canada is Johns Children. Thomas was born in 1849. So the best estimate I can give you is that They all emigrated between mid 1830,and 1847. Those two date are purly speculation,but I do belive that John and Mary were already married before arrivng in Canada.
Hope this helps out some.
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Hi,
Your dates are well before civil registration of BMD started in Ireland. You will have to depend on church records, where these exist. To find these we need to know the families religion and an accurate idea of where they lived, ie. parish or ideally townland.
Regards
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That is what I have been told. The only information I have that relates to anywhere in Ireland is on a death certificate that lists Fermanagh Ireland as the birth place of William McHugh. That is the only place I have to look,and I know there are 52 parishes in fermanagh,and without that it is a very wide search. I really dont have anything else to go on from the Canadaian side,and we can get a very detailed history with the documents and records in Canada. The search dies in as soon as we back to Michael and his wife Mary that left Ireland with what appears to be the whole family,and unless Michael had brothers or sisters that remained we just do not know. I am hoping that someone with some knowlege of these people who might be related is also looking for a connection. I know its a long shot,but at this point after looking for many years it is all I can hope for.
Thank you for the help.
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A lot of Irish left Ireland on the J & J Cooke Ships
Http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com (you might have to type this yourselve)
on two of the 1847 McHughes from Enniskillen but not your names
does it not say on John children birth certificate the name of the place his mother and father came from I was born in Ireland but live in England my birth certificates say I was born in Ballyshannon and my was from Carrickboy and my dad tralee,
do you know which church they went to, what about baptish records.
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does it not say on John children birth certificate the name of the place his mother and father came from I was born in Ireland but live in England my birth certificates say I was born in Ballyshannon and my was from Carrickboy and my dad tralee,
do you know which church they went to, what about baptish records.
Since the son Thomas was born in Canada in 1849 there will be no Irish birth certificates for any of the family as civil registration of births started in 1864.
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aghadowey, That is correct, Tho only reason I was able to locate anythign about Johns parents was because his wife mary died,and he remarried after they kept detailed records in Canada. We actually found the reference to Fermanagh because it was listed on Johns brothers death certificate. That is unusual as well,becuase most only list Ireland on the place of birth,but for somereason they listed the county as well.
I have been in contact with Ulster ancestry and they say they might be able tolocate something on Michael and Mary before they left,and it will involve looking throught the tithe records for some hint of a parish and townland,and then looking at all 52 parishes if that doesnt work. They have quoted me 450 canadian dollars,or 220 pounds. Does that sound like a reasonable number? I have no idea,as I have never done this before,and are these companies reliable?
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Yes, you've done well to get the county rather than just 'Ireland.' Just in case you haven't search all these Canadian sources for more detail already- have you tried the following?
Headstones, local histories (often have biographies of early families), traced all possible descendants to see if a placename is mentioned (often other branches have different information), local historical society, church records...
Will have a look around later and see if tithe records, etc. are online. Meanwhile perhaps other will be able to help or suggest where to search next.
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We know where the original headstone are for Michael ,Mary,John and Mary. The problem with those are John and Mary,were done when they died,but we believe that his parents stone was put there later on by the familly. Maybe to replace the original markers. They are old and dont offer any information other than dates,and the birth dates are almost surely wrong.
Not sure if the Tithe books are available online,but it seems like they have made a business in Ireland around Geneology. I am almost at the point where I am going to plan a month long trip to try to track these records down.
Most of the people we can trace were born in Canada,and until last year we had no idea who the original immigrating family members were. The history back to the first Canadian family is well documented,but only the father and grandfather of this first family is the Irish connection,and the trail just stops there. The records seem to very limited before 1840 and not much available online. The key is to locate the townland and or parish,and then take it from there.
The local area were they settled has alot of printed articles about the marriages of the first canadian born members,and lots of deaths notices,but they dont reference where or even when emigrated they from. Even knowing the when they left Ireland would help narrow it down. We have managed to narrow it down to 1840-1847 but ther is alot of information missing in those years as far ships records,and even immigration records into Canada. I am just going on a long shot here that maybe some one else is looking for the same line of McHughs and sees this post. Thanks for the information.
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are your relatives buried in Chruchville Cemetery
Mary McHugh 95 - 1765 - 1860
Michael McHugh 78 - 1765 -1843
Samuel 2 - 1856 -1858
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sorry I was running out of time on machine had to ask for more time.
Http://www.rootsweb.ancestery.com/~cancement/on/onc13291/index2.html - you might have to type this yourselve.
It also has on it John and Mary McHugh - parent
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Rathmore, That is indeed our family. The dates on the Michael and Mary being born in 1765 has to be wrong. They had the first born William in 1808,and I doubt that they were 43 when they started having children. We also believe that those stones were placed much later than when they died. I would imagine sometime in the mid to late 1800,and the dates were mostly an estimate.
Samuel is the son of John and Mary,and he was their last child.
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Flax seed growers list 1796
Michael McHugh (M'Hugh on list) parish of Rossory Fermanagh - townlands Windmilhill and Ashwoods
http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/fermanagh.php (you might have to type this yourselve)
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I had that list on file,and was unsure if it was the Michael I was looking for. I have been trying to trace ours to the one on that list,and the dates are in line with our family.
Is there a way to trace this individual further. I know all the searches I have done in Ireland have yieled zero. Is it a matter of having someone go to the parish in that townland and looking at church records?
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The Library in Letterkenny holds records of passenger list etc.
http://www.donegallibrary.ie
also The national library of Ireland in Dublin - http://www.nli.ie
you have to remember before 1922's Ireland was not split into North and South, Like Donegal, Fermanagh came under the Ulster
www.collectionscanada.gc.ca
did your relatives apply for pettion natualization of Canada
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Hi I am Brett's Cousin, he has been busy with work lately and had to set the family search aside temporarily. I found an Irish Baptism for a Thomas McHugh 18/5/1806 to a Michael and Mary McHugh with a townland residence listed as Goladuff, Fermanagh County. Can you suggest any other resources in this area for us to look into? We appreciate your help in this. The family religion seems to be Methodist (if we hadn't mentioned this yet.) Bam