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Title: what are good rc sites
Post by: rosanne on Tuesday 19 April 05 14:29 BST (UK)
I am looking for a family who were papists or roman catholics in ireland and wondered what are good sites to search for records of them
Rosanne
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: Christopher on Wednesday 20 April 05 01:01 BST (UK)
Hello Rosanne,

What is the name of the family for whom you are searching and do you have an idea of the time span in years when they were in Ireland ?  I do not know of any  sites for specific branches of the Christian faith. If you are searching for members of the Roman Catholic faith pre 1820 it is possible that you will find them in Church of Ireland Records.

Best Wishes, Christopher
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: rosanne on Wednesday 20 April 05 08:17 BST (UK)
Hi Christopher,
My family name is Maxwell and Ganly. Johnston Maxwell married Frances Ganly in 1843. They were in Roscommon, I believe. I want to be able to link them into my tree but have not been able to find names of children. I am hoping records will give me the christening if not birth records of their children in the 1840s and 1850s I guess. I am particularly looking for a John Maxwell and also when Johnston and Francis died. If Francis remarried etc.
Rosanne
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: kated on Tuesday 17 May 05 20:07 BST (UK)
Hi,

There are a good number of RC baptisms in the IGI database on familysearch.org (part of CLS). There are also some Roscommon sites you could try. See my website. If you know the parish, you can see if the CLS have them on film at your local family history centre, otherwise they are only held in the National Library in Dublin or locally.

Kate
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 13 December 05 10:24 GMT (UK)
Seasons Greetings Rosanne, to you too Kated and everyone following this thread.

As is usual when you surf for a site you come across something else of interest.
I was searching for a picture of Kildorragh Catholic church mentioned by Pat Reid -
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,112512.new/boardseen.html#new
I had no success finding the picture. I am now left wondering if Our Lord God knows his way around the internet. Is this his method of leading us to a large site  http://home.att.net/%7ELocal_Catholic/#type-records which should be useful to members of the Roman Catholic faith. There are a reasonable number of " Files Not Found " and many links that may not be required by the genealogist.  I enjoyed the tale of the missing funeral record. The researcher then discovered the church had been burnt down in a fire. The congregation had worshipped in a neighbouring church whilst their one was being rebuilt. This is typical of stories you see from time to time by searchers on this site.

All the best

Chris
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 13 December 05 17:58 GMT (UK)
Hi- your people are on the IGi site - submitted by a church member - maybe yourself?

Johnston Maxwell also listed in Griffiths Valuation- with Ganly as the lessor of the land - see Leitrim Roscommon site.

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/cgi-bin/lrgrifnew

best wishes
Heywood
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 13 December 05 18:09 GMT (UK)
http://www.from-ireland.net/parishrecords/ros/rosrcparindex.htm#19

this site- hope it works - or perhaps just www.from-ireland.net/parishrecords
indicates that there are early records from Killummod church available through LDS libraries.
Cheers ::)
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: rosanne on Friday 16 December 05 09:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for your input. Heywood, I really liked the link you gave, looks very promising.
Rosanne
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: erin21 on Tuesday 24 April 07 21:01 BST (UK)
Hello Rosanne,

What is the name of the family for whom you are searching and do you have an idea of the time span in years when they were in Ireland ?  I do not know of any  sites for specific branches of the Christian faith. If you are searching for members of the Roman Catholic faith pre 1820 it is possible that you will find them in Church of Ireland Records.

Best Wishes, Christopher

christopher

Where does one find Church of Ireland records?

Erin
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: moscan on Tuesday 24 April 07 21:17 BST (UK)
Records of the Church of Ireland, generally start much earlier than those of the Catholic Church. From as early as 1634, local parishes were required to keep records of christenings and burials in registers supplied by the church authorities. As a result, a significant number, especially of urban parishes, have registers dating from the mid seventeenth century. The majority, however, start in the years between 1770 and 1820; the only country-wide listing of all Church of Ireland parish records which gives full details of dates is the National Archives catalogue, copies of which are also to be found at the National Library or by contacting the RCB ( Representative Church Body Library) direct see the link below and also the e-mail direct for the library.

http://www.ireland.anglican.org/?do=information&id=36

library@ireland.anglican.org

Hope this helps Erin.

As for Catholic records before 1864 they too are available at the National Library and some individual County web sites.

Best wishes

Mo
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: erin21 on Tuesday 24 April 07 22:31 BST (UK)
Thanks Mo.  very interesting information here .

erin
Title: Re: what are good rc sites
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 05 August 07 04:28 BST (UK)
Rosanne,

I spotted a three page article offering some good advice regarding   Roman Catholic Records, Research and their Locations.  (http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/irish/irishrecords/romancatholic.htm#) The first sentence is an excellent summary of the problems facing researchers of Catholic Records in Ireland. It says that due to the disadvantages suffered by the Catholic Church from the 16th to the 19th centuries, record-keeping was understandably difficult and as a consequence very few registers survive from before the latter half of the 18th century.   

There's another page of advice -  Research in Catholic Records  (http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/records/church/catholic/chrrcres.htm) - on the Irish Ancestors site which warns the researcher of the horrors of "a mass of spidery abbreviated Latin, complete with blots and alterations, and cross-hatched with the scratches of a well worn microfilm which can strike terror into the heart of even the most seasoned researcher".

If you get stuck I'm sure one or two of the older RootsChatters remember some of the Latin phrases they learnt at school many moons ago. "Caesar ad sum iam forte. Brutus ad erat."

Christopher