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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Foresthamlet on Tuesday 22 February 11 13:30 GMT (UK)
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My Gt. Grandfather William James Brown, worked as a pipefitter at 'Messers Brothertous ?' Jam factory at Litherland, Liverpool when on the 3rd October 1915 he was involved in a terrible accident and was showered in Steam..
He survived for approximately 3 hours but died shortly after in Bootle Hospital.
I have a copy of the death certificate which states that an inquest was held on the 6th October 1915 and I was wondering if there was any way of getting more details of what happened..somehow.
Many thanks
Chris
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Have a hunt around for the nearest libraries and try to find out if any have a family/local history dept.
As you have a precise date they should be able to check any local newspapers of the time for a piece on the accident and/or inquest.
I've been able to do this kind of thing in the East Midlands and Lancs and it only cost a couple of pounds on each occasion.
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Looks Crosby library is the one you want
http://www.sefton.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=6384
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The survival of coroners' reports is patchy, as they are not required to deposit them in the local archive, and when they do the records are closed for 75 years after the event, no longer applicable to a 1915 inquest of course! The best source of such reports is in the local press, but be prepared, the reports are usually extremely graphic and detailed.
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Looks like it might be Brothertons at Litherland, which was a munitions factory slightly later during WW1 http://eprints.worc.ac.uk/384/6/ChapterFour.pdf and prior to that the Brotherton's factory site at Lanstar was a tar distillery (could it say tar, rather than jam on the death certificate do you think?) with a lot of nasty residues http://epppublications.com/Documents/09-3-1.pdf
Ermy
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That's really Great...
thanks everso :)
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That's really really interesting Ermy....and I think you're right in what you say.
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Looks Crosby library is the one you want
http://www.sefton.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=6384
Really glad I read this topic, I have been wanting to get my Great Grandfathers inquest report as he was crushed under his own cart aged 23yrs and lived for 6 days, there was a inquest.
Can you phone them for copy? When i looked at the site couldn't see a link for reports
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The direct phone number for the Local History dept @ Crisby library is shown on that page, and if you click the Crosby library link there is also an email address.
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Thanks you davidrigg3 :)
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Remember the caveats about deposition of coroners' records and the 75 year closure. Newspaper reports are the better bet.
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Yes thanks I new about the 75yr thing, it don't apply as the incident was in 1870.
Have tried to find a report in newspapers....no luck :( maybe it was never reported by the news
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Does surprise me you were unable to find a news report; hope the inquest report is available.
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The problem is i'm not too sure how to look, and being abroad at the moment don't make it any easier, will be home in March so maybe i'll have better luck then,
Any tips on how to search would be grately appreciated !!
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You know where and when he died from the certificate. Try the local reference library and ask for the local newspapers for that period. If they are filmed you should get immediate access, if they are originals they may be stored off site and notice will be needed to make them available.
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Ok will try and find my local library, have been trying on line with Liverpool Newspapers as it happened in Aintree on the 1st Jan 1870 apparantly he was ' in drink' ::)
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Hello Chris,
My father was Herve Brown (son of Elizabeth Briant and William Brown) and I am looking for more information about our family tree. I don't know much about this side of the family but if you could shed any light I would be grateful. I had an Auntie Francis who lived in Sheffield so are you related at all? Regards, Anthony
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Hi Anthony
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
Chris who started this topic hasn't been online here for a few months but should receive an email notification tht you have posted and hopefully come back soon.
By the way, Rootschat has a 'no living people' policy so could you remove your cousins name?
Use the 'modify' button to edit your post and then click 'save' when you're done.
If not a moderator will do it for you.
Dawn
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Thanks Dawn, I've removed that now. Fingers crossed I'll hear from Chris soon!
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Great, you've now got a post count of 2 so if you are related you can exchange personal details on the personal message system.
Fingers crossed.
If you aren't related, start a new topic and the chatters here will be delighted to try and help you further.
Don't forget to add in dates of birth, marriage and death and location is always useful especially with the surname you are researching.
DAwn
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HI Anthony, I remember you well. I've been so busy not had the time to get on here. We need to get back in touch for sure. I have much I can help with and will be in contact soon.
I see dawn made a comment but obviously wouldn't know your Aunty Frances was my grand mother, whow is sadly no longer with us. Bless her
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Hi Dawn, not come across the personal message exchange before but a very useful tool.
Thanks for sharing
Chris
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Hi Chris
Welcome back ;D
Glad you're 'reunited' with Anthony.
Dawn