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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: spark on Monday 21 February 11 15:35 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Not strictly Family history but hopefully the mods will allow me this latitude.
In the Church of St.Mary's Nanpantan there is a WW1 Roll of Honour. It lists 64 names only (I am not relatred to any). 57 served and came back 7 served and paid the ultimate price. We are currently trying to research all the names to give them some background/character.
I, with others have used Ancestry, FindMyPast, 1911, CWGC. We have now written a piece for the parish magazine and this has been picked up by the local paper.
If you have ancestors who were connected/in Nanpantan and served in WW1 - please PM me to see if they are listed / if you can help with the project.
Thanks
Spark
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Spark
Well done taking that on. You will find much reward in doing it, and probably some frustration, too.
Can I suggest that you join the Great War Forum, where there are like-minded, helpful experts:
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/
This associated site will help, too, though not interactive:
http://www.1914-1918.net/
A
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Just to let chatters know....
A first edition has been published (10 copies), after 18 months research:
copies deposited with:
The church
The Carillion Museum, Loughborough
Loughborough Library
Leicecestershire & Rutland FHS
Leicester Records Office, Wigston
Still looking for the few elusive though...........
................where are you.
Spark
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Spark
Why not put the elusive names on here theres a few of us that have experience in researching Rolls of Honour so new set of eyes may yield results.
Maybe worth asking a Moderator to post in World War One board?
Ady :)
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As suggested by Ady - List of names, as on the Roll of Honour. Men in red I can't get going on!
Angrave, Alfred
Angrave, Charles
Angrave, Chas Hubert
Angrave, Edwin
Bartram, Wilfred
Bird, John
Bowley, Gerard
Bowley, Herbert
Buckthorpe, John
Buckthorpe, William
Childs, Edwin
Crew, Sidney
Foxon, Leslie A
Gamble, Herbert
Gaze, John William
Gibbins, Bernard
Gibbins, William
Gimson, Leonard H
Gimson, Wallace H
Harrison, Thomas
Holt, Herbert
Holt, Herbert Walter
Holt, John Henry
Holt, Sidney
Holt, Stephen
Holt, William,
Kelsey, John Percy
Lapsley, Walter
Mills, Chas Matthew
Mills, Philip
Moorhouse, Horace
Parker, Fred
Phipps, Bertram
Phipps, Jack
Roffe, Harry
Simmons, Archie B
Simmons, John A
Small, William
Smith, George
Smith, Herbert
Stockwell, Frank
Stockwell, Herbert
Stokes, Walter
Stokes, Wm Joshua
Thomas, Edward
Topliss, George
Waterfield, Arthur
Gamble, Walter
Buckthorpe, Bertie
Foxon, Arthur G
Gibbins, Francis
Gamble, Walter
Gamble, George
Oswin, John
Oswin, Henry
Walley, Arthur
R.I.P.
Flint, Herbert
Moss, Howard J H
Gibbins, John Henry
Stockwell, Albert
Stokes, Wilfred
Holt, Stephen T
Simmons, John Adri
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http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/1588283/SIMMONS,%20JOHN%20ADRIAN
Heres John A Simmons brother of Archie B Simmons whose Service record survives
Maybe that the Roll of Honour was compiled then the list of KIAs was added as they became casualties as the casualties are not in alphabetical order whereas the Roll is ?that may explain two Stephen Holts and John A Simmons on the Roll?
However theres always possibility of two lads with same name...There is a John A Simmons listed on 1911 as a groom living in Shepshed about 3 miles away thats a possibility.
War memorials are laws unto themselves about who is added its a case of getting lucky with one thing that can link to an area.
Good luck maybe the Mods can pick up on this and post a link to the WW1 board too
Ady
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The John A Simmons from Shepshed (32381 14th Hussars) was a casualty in Mesopotamia on 27/3/18 so thats a possible to check
Edwin Angrave isnt listed as RIP but he died 5/10/18
Alfred Bowley must be related to the other Bowleys on your Roll was born Nanpantan but resided Shepshed he died of wounds 25/3/18 but isnt comemorated on the Nanpantan one.
So laws unto themselves :)
Ady
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Ady thanks for your input but as I have said, it is just the names in red I cannot find. I have published a book with the details of all the other, BMD, census, military and personal recollections of descendants.
Best wishes,
Spark
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Spark
Think you have John A Simmons he is more than likely one of the two listed in my post above.
For info and you would need to eliminate if not already done
theres a H Moorhouse 234027 enlisted into RFC/RAF IN Jan 18
theres also an S Holt 200492 enlisted into RFC/RAF in Aug 16
And a John Kelsey in RNVR Records.
The RAF records arent online but at Kew the RNVR one is downloadable,its also listed on NZ Military records....theres no one on Canadian or Australian records with matching names or local birthplaces
If they never served overseas there wont be a medal index cards so check SWB Roll too.
Ady
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Alfred Bowley must be related to the other Bowleys on your Roll was born Nanpantan but resided Shepshed he died of wounds 25/3/18 but isnt comemorated on the Nanpantan one.
A Bowley, 45989 private in the Leicesters, from CWGC site, gives parents James and Mary. Which would agree with the parents of the Bowley family on the Roll but does not give a forename. There is a sibling Alfred. Will do some more digging to see if there is proof, to add as a footnote.
Edwin Angrave is on St.Pauls Woodhouse Eaves war memorial
John A Simmons, is a different person to John Adri Simmons. There are 2 John Arthur Simmons born within 6 months of each other, who may fit the identity. One residing in central Loughborough and one in Shepshed (which you have identified). Both are equi-distant from Nanpantan so could be either or neither!
Spark
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For info and you would need to eliminate if not already done
theres a H Moorhouse 234027 enlisted into RFC/RAF IN Jan 18
theres also an S Holt 200492 enlisted into RFC/RAF in Aug 16
And a John Kelsey in RNVR Records.
Thanks Ady, some fresh avenues to go down :)
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8027174&queryType=1&resultcount=1
John Kelsey
http://www.britishmedals.us/kevin/raf1918.html
RAF nominal 1918
Ady
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For completion,
Alfred Bowley is brother to the 2 on my Roll of Honour.
John Kelsey RNVR record bought - unfortunately all "location iformation is antipodean to Nanpantan.
Best wishes,
Spark
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Hi
This is my first time on here, so not sure of how these things work yet.
Would just like to say that Alfred Bowley who died on 25/3/1918 was not on the Nanpantan war memorial because he is on the Shepshed one. He was born in Nanpantan but the family moved to Shepshed in 1904. Alfred was the elder brother of my grandmother Gertrude Bowley. He was the son of James Bowley and Gerard Bowley was the son of Elijah Bowley James's brother. Hope this helps a bit.
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Hi Rossell,
Many thanks for your posting. Your information is useful.
I have sent you a PM.
Spark
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Hi
Herbert Bowley was born in Shepshed (Baptised at the oaks in Charley) 1883 he married Alice Armstrong and the family moved to nanpanton between 1883 and 1885 (his sister agnes was born in nanpanton 1885).
He was discharged 11 Dec 1915 with Trench foot, he was an organist at Thorpe Acre church when my mum knew him. he was my grandmothers brother, and his parents were James and Mary (nee Start) He died 1970 age 87 in Loughborough. Hope this helps if I can help with any of the Bowleys or Rossells please contact me i will be glad to help
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Hi Rossell,
Thanks for the info. The date of death and link to Thorpe Acre is new for me, so thanks for that. I have sent you a PM with my email address so I can show you documents I have to hand.
Best wishes,
Spark