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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Bedfordshire => England => Bedfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Nad81 on Sunday 20 February 11 13:22 GMT (UK)
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This is my first post in this forum, so if i break any rules, or commit a faux pas... please tell me! :)
I am also fairly new at researching my family tree, and so i have not got into too much depth with it all... which will hopefully change!
Anyway... i am currently trying to expand on the Church branch of the tree (my own surname), and i have got to Charles Church, baptised in Wymington, Beds on the 14th January 1827, he married Sarah Perkins Oct-Dec 1848, they had 8 children that I am aware of - Joseph, George, Gilbert, Selena (I think Selena, however the document I read this from wasn't totally legible), Lydia, Thomas, Charles, and Sarah.
Charles Church's (b.1826/7) parents were George Day Church and Sarah Gilbert, but this is the only info i hold for them. I would like to know more details for them.. and also know where to look to find more for myself.
Any help will be much appreciated, thank you :)
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Welcome to Rootschat!
Bedfordshire research is fairly straightforward, particularly pre 1813 when virtually all baptisms and marriages are extracted onto the IGI at www.familysearch.org (and many between 1813 and 1875 are also covered). You'll find the marriage of Charles' parents in 1812 in Wymington
Do you have them in the 1841 and 1851 censuses? If not I'll let you have details
David
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I don't have them, no.. any details woudl be great :D
Thank you very much! :D :D
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1841 Wymington
George Church 50 Carpenter
Sarah Church 50
Charles Church 14
All born in Beds
Ages over should have been rounded down to the nearest 5 below, so 50 covered a range of 50 to 54
1851 Wymington
Gilbert Church head marr 27 Farm lab b Wymington
Charlotte Church wife 27 b Wymington
George Church son 3 b Wymington
Mary Church dau 1 b Wymington
Ann Church dau 1 b Wymington
Sarah Church lodger widow 62 Carpenter's widow b Wymington
1851 Wymington
Charles Church head marr 24 Farm lab
Sarah Church wife 24
Joseph Church son 2
All b Wymington
Burial at Wymington on 20 Sept 1850 of George Church age 62
David
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You've confused me (very easily done!) The Gilbert you have there in the second record... who is he? I assume as they had Sarah Church (Widow) living with them in 1851 that Gilbert is Sarah Gilbert and George Church's son?
Massive thank you for this, and also thanks very much for that other site... i'd not looked there before, and am filling lots of gaps with it :)
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He's most likely Stephen Gilbert Church born 1823 son of George & Sarah Church
good hunting
cheers John
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Welcome to Rootschat Nad81,
Children of GEORGE/SARAH Church Baptised Wymington, Beds;
THOMAS, 06 June 1813
WILLIAM, 02 Feb 1817
GEORGE DAY, 03 Sept 1819
STEPHEN GILBERT, 03 Nov 1823
CHARLES, 14 Jan 1827
You have their Marriage 1812.
GEOE DAY Church Christened 27 April 1789, Wymington, Bedford, England
Parents THOS and ELIZTH
Siblings (you can find exact dates yourself on the IGI)
THOMAS 1774
MARY 1776
ROSE 1779
WILLIAM 1782
STEPHEN 1786
THOMAS Church Married Elizabeth DAY, 19 Nov 1772, Wymington, Bedford
Trish :)
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Sarah Perkins is hard to track in the 1841 Census.
She may be a Servant then in another Household.
The IGI Record of their Marriage has her Father as JOSEPH Perkins
And I am sure you have her Christening to JOSEPH/SARAH in 1830 by now.
She had a Sister SELENA 1829 and ELIZABETH 1825
OH got them I think under Perking;
1841 Census
Wymington, Bedfordshire
HO107/8/20/Wymington
Elizabeth GILBERT, 40, Widow
William Gilbert, 16
Mary GILBERT, 10
Joseph PERKINS, 40, Ag lab
SARAH Perkins, 11
Elizabeth Gilbert may be a Sister in Law and looks like George is Widowed also.
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Check out the Marriage for Joseph Perkins 1843 on the IGI ;D
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You can see Joseph in the 1881 Census on Familysearch.
With him is his Daughter Elizabeth born c 1825 now Married name WOODING.
Got to sign out soon so if no one else gives you Census details I will tomorrow night.
Trish :)
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Just working thru your reponses... you are all fantastic!!
However, Sarah Perkins is listed as being aged 24 on the 1851 census, but aged 11 on the 1841 census... ? Can that be an administration error, or is it more likely to be different people?
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Check out the Marriage for Joseph Perkins 1843 on the IGI ;D
Another Gilbert!! All these crossed lines confuse me! (explains why some current family members are so weird tho ;) )
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ok.. I've filled in a multitude more family members now, but... i have come to a standstill at the following person;
John Church (my 7 x great grandfather) was father to Elizabeth Church - born circa 1701 (baptised 14th January 1701) and Samuel/Samuell Church - born circa 1707 (baptised 27th April 1707).
He was married to Elizabeth, but i can find no further details for either of them, nor for any other offspring. I *think* John may have been married more than once... but again, i can't find anything that proves it, or lets me guess confidently.
I also made a note of this entry from familysearch.org;
Possible other son? ???
Name: John Church
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Dec 1699
Baptism/Christening Place: WYMINGTON,BEDFORD,ENGLAND
Death Date: 13 Feb 1703
Father's Name: John Church
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06214-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 952422
Reference Number:
Many thanks :D
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As far as I can see a John & Elizabeth Church baptised 6 children at Wymington between 1699 & 1713: John 1699 who died 1703/1704), Elizabeth 1701, Sarah 1704, Samuel 1707, Mary 1710 & Thomas 1713. I cannot find a marriage of this John & Elizabeth in Bedfordshire (as per the IGI) for around 1700 +/- 10 years.
A John Church married Ann Bayes on 29/09/1698 & they were baptising their children there in same timespan as John & Elizabeth.
Going back a generation there is a baptism of John Church on 5/8/1677 in Wymington son of another John & Elizabeth, but is he the one married to Elizabeth or the one married to Ann ? & again there is no marriage in Beds for this John & Elizaberth.
Access to the Wymington parish records may reveal some more info; there may be banns for the marriages or the John & Ann marriage may tell you where they were from, if outside the parish. It is one of the parishes I don't have to hand at the moment. As Wymington is on the Beds border the marriages may have been in darkest Northants.
Regards John
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Thank you :D
Too many John's and Elizabeth's! lol!!
How would i get access to Parish records? or Banns? Is this something i need to do in person?
I live in Northampton, so if the records are held here, i may be able to go and physically look thru, if that is ever possible to do? I've only ever done my research within the family or online so far, i am pretty naive about the resources available to me to be honest!
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Google is my friend it appears!
Found a cd of the parish records that i can buy, so i'll do that.
Many thanks again! :)
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I was not sure that that 1841 Census is correct but just a possibility.
I am going to look at other Census data too see if I can find anything to confirm or negate it.
(my Net is back again so I can do this now)
In the 1841 Census ages were rounded to the nearest 5yrs mostly for adults.
Trish :)
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1861 Census
High Street,
Wymington, Beds
RG9/952/23/7
Charles CHURCH, 34, Head, Mar, Ag Lab
Sarah, 31, Wife, Mar, Lacemaker
Joseph, 12, Son, Ag Lab
George, 9, Son, Ag Lab
Gilbert, 7,Son, Scholar
Selina, 4, Daug
Lydia, 1, Daug
Sarah Church, 73, Lodger, Widow, Lacemaker
All born Wymington, Beds
Living next door is;
George Day CHURCH, 41, Head, Ag Lab
Cardine, 37, Wife
Sarah, 19, Daug, Unm , Lacemaker
Will try and find Sarah Church (Charles Mother) in 1851.
Notice Sarah Church nee PERKINS (edited) is born c 1830 here.
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I am now sure the 1841 census is correct and Joseph Perkins (Widower) Married (Widow) Elizabeth Gilbert in 1843.
1871 Census Sarah Church nee Perkins is born c 1830
That is one Marriage Cert I would purchase if I was you.
I will have his Fathers name and occp and if Joseph was Widowed and Elizabeths maiden name also.
Joseph GILBERT, Dec 1843, Wellingbro, 15 857
1851 Census
Wymington, Beds
HO107/1743/254/13
Joseph PERKINS, 49, Mar, Farm Labourer
Elizabeth , 49, Wife, Mar, born Oakley
William, 29, Unm, Shoemakers Son
Mary Ann, 20, Unm, Shoemakers Daug
Now looks like these are Elizabeth Gilberts Children from 1841 Census and Elizabeth deceased husband was a Shoemaker.
Charles./Sarah CHURCH + Son Joseph are living next door.
Sarah CHURCH age 67, Carpenters Widow, is living nearby with Son Gilbert and Wife Charlotte + their Children.
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1871 Census Joseph and Elizabeth are living alone.
1881 Census
Railway Hut,
Wymington, Beds
RG11/1568/30/20
Joseph PERKINS, 79, Head, Mar, Ag Lab
Elizabeth Perkins, 80, Wife, Mar, born Oakley
Elizabeth WOODING, 56, Lodger, Widow, Lacemaker
Ann Wooding, 1, Grand/Daug
On all Census I have posted all are born Wymington unless otherwise stated.
Notice Elizabeth Wooding is born c 1825.
From England Marriages on Familysearch;
Elizabeth PERKINS
Moses WOODING, 14 Dec 1845, Wymington, Bedford, England
So only one we are missing is Selina Christened 1829 who probably died.
Josephs st marriage;
Joseph PERKINS
Sarah DESBOROUGH
11 Jan 1825, Wymington, Bedford, England
(Source England Marriages 1538-1973)
Burial;
Sarah PERKINS, 15 June 1834, Wymington
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Notice Sarah church nee Gilbert is born c 1830 here.
Nee Gilbert, or Perkins? Sarah Perkins i thought was born c1830 we established... Sarah Gilbert is a whole generation earlier... :-\
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I just typed up the wrong name.
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Ok Sarah PERKINS c 1830 married Charles CHURCH
Her Parents were JOSEPH Perkins and Sarah DESBOROUGH and Sarah died 1834
Joseph remarried Elizabeth GILBERT 1843
(I will fix where I posted the wrong maiden name for Sarah :-[)
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We also now know where Sarah CHURCH nee GILBERT, Charles Mother was now born from 1861 Census.
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Thank you so much :)
You are an absolute star!!
Just one more query (for now.. lol!!) the marriage certificate for Joseph Gilbert that is recommended i purchase, is that Perkins who married a Gilbert? I assume it is... altho i daren't assume anything, i'll tie myself in knots!
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It IS very confusing Nad81 ;D
Joseph PERKINS, Sarah/Elizabeth/Selenas Father was Widowed by 1841.
1841 he is living with Daug Sarah (who Married Charles Church) and his new Wife to be Elizabeth GILBERT + her 2 Children from her 1st Marriage.
From freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Dec 1843
Gilbert Elizabeth Wellingbro 15 857
Perkins Joseph Wellingbro 15 857
Luckily it is one of the few Marriages that only 2 people are shown so we know they Married one another.
If you do get the Cert I would not be surprised if Joseph Married his Brothers Widow.
We will know this by finding her maidenname;
Eg Cert will say Elizabeth Gilbert, Widow, nee ..., Father John..., Ag Lab
Then we can find the Marriage and figure out if maybe Joseph had a Brother with that name.
The Cert should contain lots of info on Joseph also.
I think it is a good idea to sort out what we can confirm before going back too many generations.
Trish :)
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You can view the parish records transcript up to 1812 at Bedford Central reference libary or at the Beds Archives at County (sorry Borough) Hall - note they are closed Thursdays. The Archives also have microfilm of the parish registers from 1813 onwards.
The Beds Family History Society have created a CD of Wymington parish records
- follow the link
http://www.bfhs.org.uk/
It maybe what Google found you
Also note if you are pretty sure you know where the marriage took place - the marriage certificate that you're planning to purchase - will be FREE to view from the PR microfilms at the Archives - as long as it post 1837. Wellingborough RD covers Wymington parish
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Next point re Beds Archives holdings - wills......
but you're lucky - as this following site has some transcribed for Church family members including John the Butcher who has wife Elizabeth etc....
http://www.rushdenheritage.co.uk/Villages/wymington-willsindex.html
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In the 1841 Census ages were rounded to the nearest 5yrs mostly for adults.
No, in 1841 ages over 15 should have been rounded to the nearest 5 below, so eg 40 covered an actual age range of 40 - 44, and 45 covered 45 - 49.
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Thanks bb for that explanation which is much better than I could put it :)
The Marriage of Joseph/Elizabeth was 06 Nov 1843, Wymington, Beds
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It IS very confusing Nad81 ;D
Joseph PERKINS, Sarah/Elizabeth/Selenas Father was Widowed by 1841.
1841 he is living with Daug Sarah (who Married Charles Church) and his new Wife to be Elizabeth GILBERT + her 2 Children from her 1st Marriage.
From freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Dec 1843
Gilbert Elizabeth Wellingbro 15 857
Perkins Joseph Wellingbro 15 857
Luckily it is one of the few Marriages that only 2 people are shown so we know they Married one another.
If you do get the Cert I would not be surprised if Joseph Married his Brothers Widow.
We will know this by finding her maidenname;
Eg Cert will say Elizabeth Gilbert, Widow, nee ..., Father John..., Ag Lab
Then we can find the Marriage and figure out if maybe Joseph had a Brother with that name.
The Cert should contain lots of info on Joseph also.
I think it is a good idea to sort out what we can confirm before going back too many generations.
Trish :)
Thank you again! I shall purchase this certificate next time i spend money on this (already spent some money this month, and unfortunately i'm on a strict budget :( )
All this help is very much appreciated :)
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You can view the parish records transcript up to 1812 at Bedford Central reference libary or at the Beds Archives at County (sorry Borough) Hall - note they are closed Thursdays. The Archives also have microfilm of the parish registers from 1813 onwards.
The Beds Family History Society have created a CD of Wymington parish records
- follow the link
http://www.bfhs.org.uk/
It maybe what Google found you
Also note if you are pretty sure you know where the marriage took place - the marriage certificate that you're planning to purchase - will be FREE to view from the PR microfilms at the Archives - as long as it post 1837. Wellingborough RD covers Wymington parish
Yes, this is the CD i bought :D
Off to rummage thru that other link you posted now... thanks again! :D
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Selina Perkins is buried Wymington 30/01/1838 aged 11
Her mother Sarah Perkins nee Desborough is buried Wymington 15/06/1834 aged 28
John Perkins then marries Elizabeth Gilbert widow on 6/11/1843
Elizabeth may well be Elizabeth Morton who married John Gilbert on 26/9/1819; & John Gilbert may be buried 1833
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I've mixed up the children of Joseph Perkins i think... :-\
I've listed them as Joseph Perkins & Elizabeth Gilbert had Selina (b.1829) and Elizabeth Perkins (b.1832), and that Joseph Perkins and Sarah Desborough had Sarah Perkins (b.1830)..i've got them wrong haven't i?
Should it be Selina and Sarah from Joseph/Sarah, and Elizabeth from Joseph/Elizabeth?
I need to come back to this refreshed tomorrow :)
Many thanks again, i cannot believe how far back I've got in a relatively short space of time on this forum :D
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Well if you want to spend £9.25 of your money on one certificate that's OK with me but why not visit the Beds Archives & view the same certificate for Free (& pay just a small fee to get it printed), & seeing as I did earlier today there are numerous marriages in Wymington of your family members you will save yourself a fortune. Also you cannot buy certificates for marriages before 1837 - because there weren't any, but the marriage entry info is available from the parish records.
Anyway enough of that.... just send me the money for the following info... :P
Wymington marriage 6 Nov 1843
Joseph Perkins, widower, labourer, father John Perkins labourer to Elizabeth Gilbert, widow, father John Laughton, shepherd. Both were of full age & from Wymington. Witnesses George Day Church & Caroline Church, & George Day Church - the parish clerk. (I am assuming that 1st witness George Day Church is son of his eponymous father - the clerk)
Wymington marriage 26 Sept 1819
John Gilbert to Elizabeth Morton both of this parish. OK why Morton ? well that's what the IGI has & true it does look like Morton on the PR entry but it is not that clear, and most likely the IGI transcriber did not bother to correlate this with her signature, which was signed & not marked with an 'x', it was Elizabeth Laton, nice & clear. Witnesses were Daniel Weekly & ?someone? Laighton.
So now we know Elizabeth's maiden name was, Laighton, Laughton: daughter of John. The 1851/61/71/81 censuses says she was born 1802 Oakley but I cannot find a baptism at Oakley that fits. There is one born 1805 Milton Ernest ? but who knows.
Wymington burials. There is an entry for John Gilbert before the start of those in 1834 - it is blank except for his name & year 1833, plus a note in the margin saying 'omitted before'
Wymington marriage 11 Jan 1825
Joseph Perkins, bachelor to Sarah Desborough spinster: witnesses William Perkins & Sarah Perkins
Wymington baptisms children of Joseph & Sarah Perkins, labourer
22/05/1825 Elizabeth (born 14/01/1825)
19/07/1829 Selina - buried 30/01/1838 age 11
Sarah 08/08/1830
Wymington baptisms children of John & Elizabeth Gilbert, shoemaker
17/09/1820 Lawton
16/05/1824 William (born 05/03/1824)
21/03/1826 Sarah (born 08/11/1825)
25/05/1828 Rebecca (born 13/03/1828)
13/11/1831 Marianne
So on the 1851 census image where it has Joseph & Elizabeth Perkins, labouer & wife, the children William b 1822 & Mary Ann born 1831 that claim to be shoemaker's son & daughter, that have been given the Perkins name are in reality the children of John & Elizabeth Gilbert, not surprisingly confusing.
I have more - but I await my royalties.. :-\
cheers John
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I think i love you!! haha!!
Just getting my head around this lot... (after a day with my two kids on half term holidays, i dont have many brain cells left!)... who is John Gilbert - on the second marriage listed - the only John Gilbert i have is born circa. 1770, and Joseph and Sarah's father... i am missing someone aren't i? ???
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In fact... i think a entire part of my tree may be wrong.. i have Joseph Gilbert (b.1794) married to Sarah Desborough (b.1796)... but, this info was taken from someone elses tree..
Thanks for that info... i am going to wade back through now, to verify or disprove what i have :-\
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Other peoples' trees need taking with a pinch of salt - I have fallen foul of this myself in the past. OK take a look at what they say but always verify the facts.
There is a tree on Anc* I was looking at earlier that has Joseph Perkins & Elizabeth Gilbert but no marriage details & has assumed she is Elizabeth Gilbert born 1789 Oakley which is not correct
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right... i am caught up - i think! lol!
The Desboroughs/Gilberts crop up in several other points on the tree... that was what was confusing me, there is another Desborough/Gilbert marriage on a different branch... which confused me, must remember to keep them seperate in my mind!
Thank you :)
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Well if you want to spend £9.25 of your money on one certificate that's OK with me but why not visit the Beds Archives & view the same certificate for Free (& pay just a small fee to get it printed), & seeing as I did earlier today there are numerous marriages in Wymington of your family members you will save yourself a fortune. Also you cannot buy certificates for marriages before 1837 - because there weren't any, but the marriage entry info is available from the parish records.
of his eponymous father - the clerk)
Where is the Beds Archive? In Bedford i am assuming... i shall try and get there, trouble is i have one preschool child, and one reception year child, so free time is not very plentiful, taking them with me is not a good idea lol!, and i dont drive... so it'd have to be public transport to get there.
I have managed to con my father into taking a drive over to Wymington next week, to have a look round the old graveyard, and perhaps learn some dates/info from the stones, and the positioning of them... if there are any relevant ones there :)
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The Beds Archives is, yes, in Bedford, a short walk from bus station
http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/HowToFindUs.aspx
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he's back - this time it's personal ......
OK just found a marriage in Podington on 21/05/1872 of Jesse Partridge age 22 father Thomas Partridge to Mary Church age 22 father Gilbert Church
On 1881 census they living in Rushden with her father Stephen Church & his wife Charlotte. Stephen Gilbert Church married Charlotte Stock of Carlton at Wymington on 16/10/1846, they baptised Mary there on 17/08/1849, along with daughter Ann 1849 & George Day 1847
Jesse P is son of Thomas P & Elizabeth Bilson of Podington: Thomas b 1816 is son of Bolt P & Ann Dickins; Bolt son of William: then William son of Bolt...
so welcome to my tree... or am I welcome to yours...
regards John
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You are very welcome.. afterall, we're family! :P
Thanks :)
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WOW I am away for a couple of days and look what happens ;D :)
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Who is the mother/parents of Annie Lucretia Chuch b 1870 Podington who is grand-daughter to Stephen Gilbert & Charlotte Chuch on the 1871 census living in Podington along with unmarried daughter Mary.
Who also appears on the 1881 census as grand-daughter to Stephen & Charlotte now living in Rushden with now married daughter Mary & husband Jesse Partridge & their children. Annie is positioned on the image as if she is a child of Jesse & Mary.
There is a birth index for her in Dec 1869 but I cannot find her baptism.
Also there is a marriage index in Wellingborough RD in Dec 1888 & she seems to have married George Roddis as they are in Rushden on 1891 census with widow/boarder Charlotte Church - her grandmother. I'd like to see that marriage certificate to see who is her father.
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I'm not sure... i've not seen her parentage yet... i've opened my tree, so you can see the info i have so far, I'm hoping once i get the parish records cd i can find out more, and perhaps help anyone else who needs info too :)
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Who is the mother/parents of Annie Lucretia Chuch b 1870 Podington who is grand-daughter to Stephen Gilbert & Charlotte Chuch on the 1871 census living in Podington along with unmarried daughter Mary.
Who also appears on the 1881 census as grand-daughter to Stephen & Charlotte now living in Rushden with now married daughter Mary & husband Jesse Partridge & their children. Annie is positioned on the image as if she is a child of Jesse & Mary.
There is a birth index for her in Dec 1869 but I cannot find her baptism.
Also there is a marriage index in Wellingborough RD in Dec 1888 & she seems to have married George Roddis as they are in Rushden on 1891 census with widow/boarder Charlotte Church - her grandmother. I'd like to see that marriage certificate to see who is her father.
In the 1871 census Jesse Partridge is lodging with Samuel and Sarah Church in Derbyshire. I'm not sure of that particular Church connection yet, but I don't think that Jesse was necessarily the father of Annie Lucretia Church. His marriage to Mary Church is, after all, two and a half years after Annie's birth.
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Hello Drewgle & welcome to RootsChat...
I don't expect Jesse Partridge to be Annie's father & I'm not sure if there is a direct family connection of Samuel Church b 1821 Pavenham to those from Podington/Wymington. Tracking back Samuel & Sarah in the censuses, their eldest child on 1851 census was born 1843, On 1841 Samuel & siblings were with (assumed) mother Elizabeth b 1791. There is a marriage index in Bedford RD in Mar 1842 of Samuel Hulatt Church to Sarah Walker.
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Hello Nad, some some more Church marriages at Wymington gleaned from the Archives last Tuesday.... just want to tidy up my notes.
19 Nov 1772 by Licence.. Thomas Church aged 22, Farmer to Elizabeth Day, a minor with consent of her guardian William Saunders; surety was given by Thomas Law, weaver of Wymington. Witnesses Mary Day & Thomas Lane (clerk)
23 Mar 1812 George Day Church, bach to Sarah Gilbert, spin, both of this parish: witnesses Mary Saunders & Mrs Gilbert.
16 Oct 1846 Stephen Gilbert Church age 22, horsekeeper, father George Day Church, Carpenter to Charlotte Stock age 23 servant, father George Stock labourer. Witnesses : George Gostick, Mary Stock, Caroline Church, Frances Machiness.
9 Mar 1841 George Day Church, age 21blabouerer, father George Day Church, carpenter to Caroline Machiness age 17, father William Machiness, shoemaker. Witnesses : John Hilson & ? ? Gostick.
28 Nov 1848 Charles Church of full age, labourer, father George Day Church, carpenter to Sarah Perkins age 19 servant, father Joseph Perkins, laboyrer. Witnesses : Charles Whilman & Isabella Gilbert.
17 Sept 1843 Thomas Wooding age 22 father William Wooding to Caroline Mobbs age 19 father Samuel Mobbs. Witnesses Moses Wooding, Sarah Gilbert & George Day Church (clerk)
14 Dec 1845 Moses Wooding age 21 father William Wooding to Elizabeth Perkins age 20 father Joseph Perkins. Witnesses : Charles Church & Abigail Machiness
Hope that's filled in a few more gaps.
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..... Church/Gilbert/Day/Perkins/MacKness (Wymington)
drewgle - where do you fit in this family line then ?
ok I see now - the name Conant also appears in your interests....
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drewgle - where do you fit in this family line then ?
Hi John - My maternal great grandparents were William Alwyn Lines (1882-1956) and Alice Maria Church (1886-1947). Alice's parents were Gilbert Church (1854-1911) and Maria Pendred (1855-1946) - both born Wymington. Gilbert's parents were Charles Church (1826-1883) and Sarah Perkins (1830-1873)... and so on. Thank you for your help in enriching our Wymington connections. ;)