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Title: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: nirpvad on Sunday 20 February 11 07:17 GMT (UK)
I am looking for children baptised to George and Caroline Bryant (nee Rendle/Rendall) from 1821 when they were married to about 1836. I believe there should be 4 children as below

Henry abt 1826
Elizabeth abt 1830 (Particularly interested in this one - my GG GM)
Harriett abt 1831
George abt 1835

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: leofred on Wednesday 23 February 11 22:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Dave

These parish registers are not on line yet. If you look on this page under Somerset resources you will see someone called Haselbury has these records and is happy to do a lookup. The  Moderator for Somerset has requested that the lookups for these records should be put where you have requested. It might be useful to pm them.

Failing this you could join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hbhundred

This is a free group who also might have these records if you look in their files. If they havnt transcribed them yet(they do them for Freereg) someone might do a look up for you. The advantage of joining nthis group is the increased liklihood of someone researching the same family as yourself.

Good Luck
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: nirpvad on Monday 28 February 11 09:06 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the info. I am a member of the HBHundred group but have had no luck there.

I have just found out that at least some of the children were baptized with their mother's name even though the parents had married some years before.

Cheers and thanks again
Dave


Hi Dave

These parish registers are not on line yet. If you look on this page under Somerset resources you will see someone called Haselbury has these records and is happy to do a lookup. The  Moderator for Somerset has requested that the lookups for these records should be put where you have requested. It might be useful to pm them.

Failing this you could join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hbhundred

Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: haselbury on Sunday 20 March 11 15:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Dave,
Sorry I did not answer before this, but I have been dealing with a locked shoulder, and had been unable to type.

I have checked the registers for you and below is what I found:
Somerset Haselbury Plucknett Parish Registers Marriages  Item 24 1813-1841
Page 14
George Bryant Sojourner of this Parish Batchelor and Caroline Rendle of this Parish Spinster were Married in this Church By Banns This Eleventh Day of August in the year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty One.
By Me  John Allen  Curate
The Marriage was Solenized Between Us } The Mark  X of George Bryant
                                                                 } The Mark  X of Caroline Rendle
In the Presence of  } William Swaffield  John Boucher  + Jane Dix
No. 41.
I do not have the Banns for this Registers  Marriages.

Baptisms Item 25 1813-1842                                                     
Page  No. 37    Reg No. 294     When Baptized  January 30 1825
Childs Name  Jane Daughter of  Parents Christian Names George + Caroline 
Parents Surname Rendle   Abode  Haselbury 
Quality Trade or Profession  Labourer
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen
Page No. 41    Reg No. 326    When Baptized   May 7  1826
Childs Name  Hannah Daughter of Parents Christian Names George + Caroline
Parents Surname  Rendle   Abode  Haselbury
Quality Trade or Profession  Labourer
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen
Page 49     Reg No.  387     When Baptized   May 3 1829
Childs Name Elizabeth Daughter of Parents Christian Names George + Caroline
Parents Surname Rendall   Abode  Haselbury
Quality Trade or Profession Labourer
By Whom the Ceremony was performed  J. Allen
Page No. 54   Reg No.  432       When Baptized  March 27 1831
Childs Name  Harriet Daughter of Parents Christian Names George + Caroline
Parents Surname  Bryant   Abode   Haselbury
Quality Trade or Profession  Labourer
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen
Page No. 61  Reg No. 484    When Baptized  May 10 1833
Childs Name Mary Daughter of Parents Christian Names George + Caroline
Parents Surname   Rendle      Abode   Haselbury
Quality Trade or Profession  Labourer
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen
Page No. 68  Reg No.  539  When Baptized  April 19 1835
Childs Name George Parents Christian Names George + Caroline
Parents  Surname  Briant  Abode  Haselbury
Quality Trade or Profession  Labourer
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen

Burials  Item 26  1813-1864
Page No. 25  Reg No. 196  Name George Bryant  Abode Haselbury
When Buried  November 25 1827  Age 11 months
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen
Page No. 26  Reg No. 203  Name Joseph Bryant  Abode Haselbury
When Buried April 13 1828  Age  2 Days
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen
Page No. 26  Reg No. 204  Name  Elizabeth Bryant  Abode Haselbury
When Buried April 13 1828  Age  2 Days
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J Allen
Page No 45  Reg No 360  Name Caroline Briant  Abode  Haselbury
When Buried October 30 1836  Age  60 ? 
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  Richard Beadon
Page No 63 Reg No 499  Name George Rendle Alias Bryant Abode haselbury
When Buried November 8 1845  Age 53
By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  F. Dusantry
Regards OPC for Haselbury Plucknett
Margaret Silva
 
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: nirpvad on Sunday 20 March 11 22:38 GMT (UK)
Many, many thanks for the lookups, Margaret.

There is one other child who is reported to have belonged to George and Caroline. His name was Henry BRYANT (Rendle/Randell/Raindle???) purported to be born abt 1826. Would it be possible to have a quick look for his baptism, please.

He married Ann MITCHELL, I believe in Haselbury Plucknett, on  3 July 1852.

I am perplexed as to the reason the children were baptised some as BRYANT and some as a variation of RENDLE. The same Curate officiated at all baptisms (and marriage). Surely they would have been fairly well known in a small town like Haselbury Plucknett.

We will be visiting H.P. in early May during our trip to the UK.

Cheers and thanks again
Dave Prince
Sunny (once again) Queensland
Australia
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: haselbury on Monday 21 March 11 07:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Dave,
You probably will never find out why, your relation used an asumed name. But he must have had a reason for doing it. I am sure it would have been very unnerving to the Minister at the time. The surprising thing is that the Minster did not put Alias Bryant or Rendle on the Childrens Baptisms, the only place it is shown is on his Burial.  I am sorry I cannot help with your Henry's Marriage as I only have Marriages till April 1841. But I have gone further into the Registers and below is what I found for you.
Item 26 Burials 1913-1864
15  118  Henry           Bryant  Haselbury 26 Jan 1823  2 Days    J. Allen
25  196  George         Bryant  Haselbury 25 Nov 1827 11 Mths  J. Allen
26  203  Joseph         Bryant  Haselbury 13 Apr 1828  2 Days    J. Allen
26  204  Elizabeth      Bryant  Haselbury 13 Apr 1828 2 Days    J Allen
79  526  George Wm  Bryant  Haselbury 15 Mar 1853 Infant F Dusantry Curate
Item 27 Baptisms 1842 -1875
Page Entry When  Childs              Parents Names               Trade  By Whom
                  Bapt    Christian   Christan Surname Abode                  Performed
34    270  31 Oct  George       Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr    F Dusantry
                1852     Son of     + Anne                                                    Curate
44    347  30 Sep  Anne          Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr   F Dusantry
                1855     Daur of   + Anne                                                   Curate
47    369  26 Sept Henry        Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr   F Dusantry
                1856     Son of    + Anne                                                    Curate
60    479  31 Sept Harriet      Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr   John Hancock
                 1860    Daur of  + Anne                                                     Curate
67    533  26 Oct   William      Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr   John Hancock
                 1862     Son of  + Ann (No E)                                            Curate
74    592  30 Jul    Charles     Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr   John Hancock
                 1865     Son of   + Ann                                                      Curate
81    644  28 Jul    Lamuel     Henry      Bryant    Haselbury Labr   John Hancock
                1867     Son of    + Ann                                                     Curate
86    688  26 Sept Caroline   Henry      Bryant   Haselbury  Labr   John Hancock
                1869      Daur of  + Ann                                                  Curate 
92    731  29 Oct   Elizabeth  Henry     Bryant    Haselbury Labr   John Hancock
                1871     Daur of   + Ann                                                    Curate
Item 28  Burials 1864 - 1885
13   101  Julia Bryant     Haselbury   13 Jan 1872  79  Alfred G Mortimer Curate
21   161  George Bryant  Haselbury 30 Mar 1876 2 Days JS F Farmer Curate

Item 29  Baptisms 1875 - 1885
3      19    29 Mar  George   Harriet  Bryant   Haselbury Single J S F Farmer
                1876     Son of    Bogeat                               Women    Curate 
6      41    24 Jan   Rhoda     Ann      Bryant  Haselbury             J S F Farmer
                 1877    Daur of                                                            Curate
If I come across anything else I will post it here for you.  I went back and checked for them under Rendle, but found nothing at this time.
Regards OPC for Haselbury Plucknett
Margaret Silva
 
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: nirpvad on Tuesday 22 March 11 22:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks again, Margaret.

The information is very much appreciated.

I am now looking into the possibility that Hannah baptized May 7, 1826 was at the time entered incorrectly and should have been our missing Henry.

We cannot find any other trace of a Hannah apart from the baptism.

Thanks for your assistance, Margaret.
Cheers
David Prince
Australia.
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: haselbury on Tuesday 22 March 11 23:45 GMT (UK)
Hi David,
I have re-checked the Baptism Register, and it is clearly defined an entry as
Hannah Daughter of George + Caroline.

But I had a more indept look through the Register for your Henry. Henry was not the son of George aand Caroline.  Below defines why.
Baptisms
P27 No. 212 March 17, 1822 Edward son of Grace  Hockey alias Rendle
Abode Haselbury  By Whom the Ceremony was Performed J Allen
P27 No. 213 March  17, 1822 Henry son of Jonathan Rendle Abode Haselbury
Occupation Labourer By Whom the Ceremony was Performed J. Allen
P38 No. 302 June 19, 1925 James son of Jonathan + Grace Rendall
Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer  BWTCWP - J. Allen
P45 No. 354 October 7, 1927 Elizabeth Daughter of  Jonathan + Grace Rendall
Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer BWTCWP  J. Allen
P48 No. 381 January 25, 1829 George Son of Jonathan + Grace Rendle
Abode Haselbury, Occupation Labourer BWTCWP  J. Allen
P53 No. 421 October 10, 1830 Edward Son of Jonathan + Grace Rendle
Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer BWTCWP J. Allen
P58 No. 463 March 25, 1832 Elizabeth Daughter of Jonathan + Grace Rendle
Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer BWTCWP J. Allen

Will search for more entries and post them here.
Regards Margaret

 
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: haselbury on Wednesday 23 March 11 02:45 GMT (UK)
Hi David,
Here is some more Records:
Baptisms
Page 63 No. 503 Baptized December 29 1833 Matilda Daughter of Jonathan + Grace Rendle  Abode Haselbury  Occupation Labourer BWTCWP - J. Allen
Page 63 No. 504  Baptized December 29 1833 Maria Daughter of Jonathan + Grace Rendle Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer BWTCWP - J. Allen
Page 78 No. 623 Baptized August 18 1837 Lamuel Son of Jonathan + Grace
Rendle Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer BWTCWP - John Allen Officiating
Minister.
Burials
Page 14 No. 197 Edward Hockey Abode Haselbury Buried May 12, 1822 Age 1 year By Whom the Ceremony was Performed - J. Allen

Page 26 No. 207 Elizabeth Rendle Abode Haselbury Buried July 9, 1828 Age 1 year By Whom the Ceremony was Performed  J. Allen 

Page 61 No. 481 Grace Rendall Abode West Chinnock Buried March 18, 1844 Age 52 years By Whom the Ceremony was Performed F Dusantry  Curate.

I did not find a Burial for Jonathan perhaps he was buried in West Chinnock.

Check out the 1881 Census as there is Hannah's that were Born in Haselbury listed there with their husbands. Such as
Hannah wife of Jonas Hillier aged 57 Born Haselbury living at North Street Haselbury RG11 2389/101 P14
Hannah Wilkins wife of William and so on, Also remember that Hannah's were often than not called Ann as well.
Regards Margaret
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: haselbury on Wednesday 23 March 11 21:32 GMT (UK)
Hi David,
In the Marriage Register I found this Entry.
Page 14
Jonathan Rendle of this Parish Of this Parish Widower and Grace Hockey Of this Parish were married in this Church by Banns this Eighteenth Day of March in the year One Thousand eight hundred and Twenty one.
By me John Allen, Curate
This Marriage was Solemnized } The Mark x  of Jonathan Rendle
                             Between Us } The Mark x of Grace Hockey
In the Presence of } Wm Swaffield
                              } Rlizabeth Sharkell
No. 40

Jonathan Rendle Of this Parish and Elizabeth Rigular Both of this Parish
were married in this Church By Banns this Twenty Fifth Day of February in the year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twelve. By me  John Allen Curate
This marriage was Solmnized } Jonathan Rendall
                           Between Us } The Mark x of Elizabeth Rigular
In the Presence of } Francies Richards
                              } Wm Swaffield
No. 27
Baptisms
Page 6 No. 42 30 July 1815 John son of Jonathan and Elizabeth Rendal Abode Haselbury Occupation Labourer By Whom the Ceremony was Performed J. Allen

Burials
Page 9 No. 67 Elizabeth Rendle Haselbury  Buried 27 June 1819 Age 32 By Whom the Ceremony was Performed J. Allen
Rgeards Margaret Silva
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: nirpvad on Tuesday 29 March 11 10:06 BST (UK)
Hello Margaret,

Sorry for taking so long to reply but have been away. Once again, many thanks for all the research you have done for me on the Bryant's/Rendles. It is much appreciated.

I don't think anyone in that Jonathon's family ever used the name Bryant, though. Our Henry married in 1852 in Haselbury Plucknett as Henry Bryant.

It would be interesting to see if the father is mentioned in his marriage records. I know you have access only to marriages up to 1841 and it seems that's what the Somerset Heritage Centre has also. Would these later records be available at the Haselbury Church do you think. I will be visiting the church next month and maybe I should email ahead to see if I can view any records there.

Anyway, thanks again.

Cheers
David
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: haselbury on Tuesday 29 March 11 10:30 BST (UK)
Hi David,
As the Marriage took place 159 years ago, the Church may not still have the Records onsite.  The Records could be at the Religious Denomination Head Office.  If the Marriage is listed in Free BMD's I would be applying for the Marriage Certificate.
Regards Margaret
Title: Re: BRYANT Baptisms Haselbury Plucknet please
Post by: nirpvad on Tuesday 29 March 11 11:17 BST (UK)
All ok, Margaret. I will get the marriage certificate. Thanks
David