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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Rutland => England => Rutland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: davierj on Saturday 19 February 11 16:45 GMT (UK)
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Request a lookup for the baptism of Ann Clay, born about 1807 in Oakham. From the 1841 census, her mother was Ann Clay born about 1768, but her father had died by that time. I'm trying to confirm Ann's father's name and if possible any siblings.
Thanks, Dave
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I have a cover disc from Nov 2009 WDYTYA magazine that contains transcripts of Oakham parish registers done by the Leics & Rutland Family History Society.
Unfortunately there is no record of a Baptism for an Ann Clay around 1807 :-\
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Thank you for reply. Is it possible to see if there was a marriage for an Ann Clay at Oakham late 1700s/early 1800s? I'd be most obliged if you could also look for a baptism for Ann Clay the elder in Oakham about 1768ish.
Dave
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No marriage for Ann Clay 1754 - 1812 or Mr. Clay to Ann Unknown
No baptism of Ann Clay 1747 - 1812
Only vague possibilities -
7 Feb 1798 Mary Clay Fairchild d/o Ann Fairchild - Base born
27 Feb 1802 Elizabeth Clay Fairchild d/o Ann Fairchild/Edward Clay
5 Aug 1803 Edward Fairchild d/o Ann/Edward Clay - Base born
5 Aug 1803 Edward Clay s/o Edward/Ann Fairchild - Base born
Edward appears twice in the transcript, first as d/o then as s/o with the parents names switched around. Could be a different incumbent than the first two who has a different way of recording things and d/o is a mistake either in the register or in the transcript?
Perhaps Edward Clay and Ann Fairchild did go on to have another daughter Ann and the Vicar refused to baptise another base born child so they went somewhere else or maybe they just didn't have her baptised?
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OK thank you very much for trying.
Dave
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I know it's a long time since you posted this request, but I have some useful information for you on this family. My ancestor Edward Clay married Ann Fairchild, a widow, on 19 November 1804 at Thornhaugh, Northamptonshire after having had at least 4 "base born" with her. Mary, Eilzabeth and Edward were registered in Oakham as listed in this forum, but we found an Ann Clay registered as the daughter of Ann Clay christened 20 November 1798 in Braunston Rutland. This is the only Ann daughter of Edward and/or Ann Clay that we can find. Mary is my ancestor and married John Jackson. Elizabeth married Joseph Langston, but I don't know if Ann ever married. Certainly she was single in 1831 when her father Edward died. I have a copy and transcript of Edward's will if you would like a copy. Ann Fairchild's maiden name according to my notes - which I haven't looked at for years - was Ann Casterton, although it seems to have been mistranscribed on the IGI entry for her first marriage as "Curston". She firstly married William Fairchild on 23 November 1790 at Ashwell, Rutland. Hope this helps.
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Welcome to RootsChat and Rutland. Thank you for your reply it looks very promising. I'd love to have a copy of Edward's will and I'll try and send you a personal message with my e-mail address.
Regards, Dave
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According to my records, Ann Clay married Samuel Adcock Mawby, 17 Oct 1833 at Oakham. Their son, Samuel Edward Mawby, according to various census records, was born about 1837 in Oakham and died 17 Feb 1887 in Oakham. Note second name, Edward. Ann Clay was buried 7 Jul 1862 and her husband died 8 Aug 1864 both at Oakham.
Dave
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Yes, you are right Dave - another contact has put me right re Ann Clay's marriage. And she has her mother living with her on 1841 census. Thanks for the burial information too.
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You're welcome. I've sent you a personal message with my e-mail address so if you wish you can send a copy of Edward's will.
Cheers Dave
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A long time after you (Dave) and others sorted out the Mawby/Clay connection. I am trying to tie these folks with "our" Joseph Mawby who married Elizabeth Popple and had eleven children. This "Chat" has filled in a lot for me! I was really confused about the dates surrounding the two Ann Clays, mother and daughter.
I am not very good at using RootsChat, so I am not sure who will see this!
Anyway - Thanks for the help!
Janice
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Hi Jan, funny you should mention Joseph Mawby and Elizabeth Popple as they are my wife's great grandparents. He was a policeman. They in fact had 14 children. I can let you have more details if you wish.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
We have been in touch before - on this subject. The connection is through Gladys Constance Mawby Langdon, daughter of Charles Hugh Langdon and Emma Susan Mawby. Gladys married Frederick Allen White who was my grandmother's (Lilias Deborah White) brother.
Frederick and Gladys White had three sons, Reginald, Eric and Keith (known as "Peter"). Reginald died early in a dockyard accident, Eric was sent to Canada as a "Home Child", after his father died and Mum had a new baby and couldn't cope; Eric had two children, a son who died within a day of birth, and a daughter, Linda, who lives in British Columbia and I visit her every Christmas, as I escape from a Prairie Winter!
Peter lived in England and had two children, a boy and a girl.
Could you e-mail me direct at janjones@mts,net and give me the marriages and dates which
relate to Ann Casterton/Fairchild/Clay - and her daughter Ann. I am still confused!
I do have the Mawbys - back to a Thomas and Ann ( nee ?) Mawby and their son, Robert, who married Mary Adcock.
Cheers, Jan
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Hi Jan, I can only repeat what was posted previously by eus5805....
Ann Clay married Samuel Adcock Mawby 17 Oct 1833.
Her mother was Ann Casterton born about 1768. She married William Fairchild 23 Nov 1793 in Ashwell, Rutland. It appears that William was buried 28 Nov 1794 in Oakham.
Ann then had 4 children, presumably out of wedlock all baptised Oakham.............
Mary Clay Fairchild bap 7 Feb 1798
Ann Clay bap 20 Nov 1798
Elizabeth Clay Fairchild bap 27 Feb 1802
Edward Clay Fairchild bap 5 Aug 1803
Ann then married Edward Clay 19 Nov 1804 at Thornhaugh, Northamptonshire.
Presumably the children were Edward Clay's. The only oddity is Ann Clay with no mention of Fairchild.
Hope it's all correct, cheers Dave