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Title: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Sunlaws on Saturday 19 February 11 15:48 GMT (UK)
Hi

I would appreciate any sightings of Luther Melancthon HORSFALL, born 1858 in Halifax, in 1861 or 1871. I am hoping he is to be found at home with similarly spectacularly named parents!

Regards,

Lesley
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Jocie on Saturday 19 February 11 16:00 GMT (UK)
This is 1861

9 Bath Parade Halifax


William           49       Woollen and Stuff? Merchant       Born  Thornton
Elizabeth        33       Wife                                                     Halifax
Emma            11                                                                  Halifax
Mary A            7                                                                    Halifax
Louisa             5                                                                    Halifax
Luther            3                                                                     Halifax


RG9/ 3282

Jo
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 February 11 16:04 GMT (UK)
The 1861 shows him as Luther McLanchton
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Jocie on Saturday 19 February 11 16:06 GMT (UK)
1871

Same family

They are all living at 10 Wesley Street Halifax.

William is now described as a Commission Agent
The three girls are working as Cotton Winders
Luther is a Doffer or Daffer

RG10 piece 4391 folio 25 page 7


Jo
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 February 11 16:07 GMT (UK)
In 1871 he is Luther Milancthon - no additional children born since 1861
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Jocie on Saturday 19 February 11 16:11 GMT (UK)
Whoops sorry forgot the Milancthon part!
We have one or two instances in our family where when the son finally arrived he was lavished with unusual names.

A Doffer is someone who removes the full bobbins from a machine.   I thought I'd come across this before and found amongst my mothers family who were Lancashire cotton workers.


Hope this helps


Jo
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Rafter on Saturday 19 February 11 16:14 GMT (UK)
Hi,
      Luther's occupation will be that of a 'doffer', who removed the full bobbins from ring spinning frames.
Going just by the index, he appears in every census, in 1911 he is Luther Melanethan Horsfall.

Rafter.
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 February 11 16:20 GMT (UK)
But his birth reg is

Births March qtr 1858 
Luther Melanchton Horsfall    Halifax  9a 365
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Rafter on Saturday 19 February 11 16:33 GMT (UK)
As CaroleW said, the original birth index clearly says Luther Melanchton Horsfall. Are we suffering from dodgy transcriptions? Has anyone seen the original census forms?

Rafter
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Sunlaws on Saturday 19 February 11 16:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am very grateful to everyone who has contributed to this topic.

The spelling as in the BMD index may be a dodgy transcription, or it may be a mistake on the part of the original registrar on being confronted with the unfamiliar name!

Philip(p) Melancthon was a theologian of the German reformation, and an associate of Martin Luther. I guess I'm unlikely to find Luther HORSFALL's baptism in a C of E church!

Regards,

Lesley

Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Jocie on Saturday 19 February 11 16:51 GMT (UK)
1861 census is Melanchton

1871 census is Milanchton  there is a definite dot over the 'i'

The handwriting is clear on both forms.
1881.1891.1901 he is recorded as Luther M

1911 census Melanethan  and it is in his own handwriting which is easy to read both in the name entry and in his signature so the others must be transcription errors I suppose


Jo
Title: Re: Luther HORSFALL 1861 Halifax
Post by: Marmaduke 123 on Saturday 19 February 11 17:59 GMT (UK)
I think the 1911 census form does say Melancthon. Hard to tell whether it's an "e" or a "c" but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt as it's his own name!

Anne