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Title: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Thursday 17 February 11 08:09 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to find out about the family of Margaret (Maggie) Hoey, b. Eaglehawk, Victoria 1864 & her husband John Blackwell. They apparently married at Kalangadoo, S. Austr. 7/1/1891. They only details I have of their children are names/nicknames - Catharine (Katie) b ? 6/10/1891; Goolie; Alicia; Maisie; John (Jack) b. 1916 ?; Alexander (Alec).

If anyone can find any more details on this couple and their children I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks,

Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: cando on Thursday 17 February 11 08:54 GMT (UK)
Marriage

BLACKWELL John Barrett  33 years  Single  Father Richard Rogers Francis BLACKWELL
HOEY Maggie  27 years  Single  Father Thomas HOEY
7 Jan 1891
At the residence of Thomas Morris Kalangadoo    Rob V 166/69

Cando


Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: cando on Thursday 17 February 11 09:01 GMT (UK)
Births

BLACKWELL Katie Lilian
6 Oct 1891
Fathe: John Barrett BLACKWELL   Mother Maggie HOEY
At Naracoorte   Rob 488/51

BLACKWELL John Hoey
13 May 1893
Father John Barrett BLACKWELL   Mother Maggie HOEY
At Naracoorte     Rob 521/383

BLACKWELL Alec Thomas
2 Aug 1894
Father John Barrett BLACKWELL  Mother Maggie HOEY
At Naracoorte   Rob 546/447

BLACKWELL Nena Gulielma
29 Nov 1895
Fathe: John Barrett BLACKWELL   Mother Maggie HOEY
At Naracoorte   Rob 575/197

BLACKWELL Mary Fullarton
12 Jan 1899
Father John Barrett BLACKWELL  Mother Maggie HOEY
At  Naracoorte   Rob633/455

BLACKWELL Ailsa Maggie
15 Feb 1901
Father John Barrett BLACKWELL  Mother Maggie HOEY
At Narracoorte   Rob 672/268

BLACKWELL Ina Clarice
13 Nov 1902
Father John Barrett BLACKWELL  Mother Maggie HOEY
At Naracoorte  Rob 704/126


Cando

Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: cando on Thursday 17 February 11 09:20 GMT (UK)
This would appear to be Maggie's family however I can't find a birth registration for her...  Only Thomas HOEY on the Vic indexes for the period.

HOEY Thomas
MACBETH Jemima Nena
1860  Reg#3116

Births - twins

HOEY Mary Nicol
Father Thomas   Mother Jamina N MACBETH
At Eaglehawk  1862  Reg#10174
 
HOEY Catherine
Father Thomas  Mother Jamina N MACBETH
At Eaglehawk  1862  Reg#10175

Deaths

HOEY Catherine
Father Thomas   Mother Jemima U
At NERR  8 months  1862  Reg#5142

HOEY Catherine
Father Thomas  Mother Jemima Nena UNKNOWN
9 months Born Eaglehawk  1866  Reg#2675

HOEY Thomas
Father:Thomas  Mother Jemima Nena UNKNOWN
20 months Born Eaglehawk  1868  Reg#6243

Cheers
Cando




Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Thursday 17 February 11 17:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Cando,

Thanks so much, great information so quickly. Can't thank you enough.

I got the birth years from a New Zealand immigration fiche of people from Scotland.  The parents Thomas Hoey & Jemima Nena MccBeth emigrated from Scotland to the Victoria goldfields in S. Australia 1861-62 and had at least 6 children there at Eaglehawk (Catherine & Mary Nicol 1862, Margaret 1864, Catherine 1866, Thomas January 1867 & Jessie Drummond prob late 1867 (Oct???), as father Thomas Hoey d Melbourne & was buried at Bendigo 25/2/1867. The 2 Catherine's & Thomas jr died as babies & Jemima, Mary, Maggie & Jessie went to Wanganui in New Zealand to live.

However Maggie obviously came back to South Australia, married & reared her family at Naracoorte.

Is there any indication on your records of when Maggie & John Blackwell died?

Many thanks,

Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: sidsmith on Thursday 17 February 11 21:37 GMT (UK)
John Barrett Blackwell died 14.4.1941 at Naracoorte age 93
Ref ..Rob   Book 635 Page 1815
Maggie Blackwell died 6.7.1933 at Naracoorte age 69
Ref Rob  Book 549 Page 276

Regards
Sid
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Thursday 17 February 11 22:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Sid,

Many thanks for the very instant research for me.
Very much appreciated.

Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 17 February 11 23:09 GMT (UK)
Hi,
South Australian Directory 1902
Merchants & Importers.
Blackwell John B, Nararcoorte.

South Australia PO Directory 1903
NARACOORTE
Blackwell Arch, labourer.
Blackwell Charles, farmer.
Blackwell Mrs Jane.
Blackwell John, farmer.
Blackwell William, farmer.
Blackwell Richard, farmer.
Blackwell John B (Fullerton & Blackwell)

Gerry
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 17 February 11 23:36 GMT (UK)
Craig,

Just a snippet of interest, from the New Zealand Gazette July16th 1880 page 1033 under "Licence To Teach" a Mrs Jemima Nena Hoey, Education District of Wanganui.


There is also some NZ Directory information as well if you need it.

Gerry
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Thursday 17 February 11 23:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Aussie 1947

Thanks very much for all this extra information .... great!

I would love the extra NZ Directory info if you wouldn't mind sending it.

Many thanks,

Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: cando on Friday 18 February 11 00:14 GMT (UK)
Burial records
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bwb/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bwc/

Cheers  :)
Cando

Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Aussie1947 on Friday 18 February 11 00:47 GMT (UK)
Craig,

New Zealand PO Directory 1892-93
Hoey Mrs, schoolmist. Wicksteed St Wanganui.

New Zealand PO Directory 1894-95
WANGANUI
Hoey Mrs, schoolm. Wicksteed st.

New Zealand PO Directory 1896-97
WANGANUI
Hoey Mrs, mistress, Wang, infant schl.

New Zealand PO Directory 1900
Hoey Mrs J. N, teacher, 89 wicksteed st, Wang.

New Zealand PO Directory 1905
Hoey Mrs J. N, teacher, 89 wicksteed st, Wang.

Do you know what brought Jemima to NZ, I see in the 1867 Directory there was a  Peter Hoey residing at North East Valley Rd as a farrier, could he have been Thomas's brother or relative and Jemima moved to NZ with her children after Thomas had died to be near family?  Just a wild theory.

New Zealand Electoral Roll.
1900 Manawatu-Wanganui, Wanganui.
Hoey Jemima Nina, Wicksteed Street, schoolmistress, residential.
Hoey Jessie Drummond, Wicksteed Street, masseuse, residential.

New Zealand Electoral Roll.
1905-06 Manawatu-Wanganui, Wanganui.
Hoey Jemima Nina, Wicksteed Street, schoolmistress.
Hoey Jessie Drummond, Wicksteed Street, masseuse.

New Zealand Electoral Roll.
1911 Manawatu-Wanganui, Wanganui.
Hoey Jemima Nina, Wicksteed Street, schoolmistress.
Hoey Jessie Drummond, Wicksteed Street, spinster.

Gerry










Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Friday 18 February 11 18:45 GMT (UK)
Many thanks, Gerry, for the PO Directory information. Great!

I don't really know why Jemima Nena Macbeth came to Australia and New Zealand.

Quite a few of her siblings came over too. Her elder sisters Agnes Macbeth & Elisabeth Macbeth had married the same man (Daniel Robertson) as 1st & 2nd wife. After the wives died Daniel emigrated with his surviving children by both wives; Her brothers William Nicol Macbeth and John James macbeth went to N. Z; and yet another elder sister Barbara Macbeth married a seaman called Alexander Leslie.  They had 4 children Alex, Mary, James & Janet born between 1852 & 1865. I can't find them in Scotland after 1871, so I've a feeling they might have gone to Oz or NZ too. They're still under investigation!

Thanks again,

Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 19 February 11 00:02 GMT (UK)
Craig,

I see Alexander & Barabara on the 1871 Census and here is a couple of possibilities for Alexander Leslie but it was a fairly common name though.

I see an Alexander Leslie 2nd Mate, 32 from Aberdeen was on board the "Sarah Grice" arriving in Sydney on 16th October 1871 from London.

From the The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954 Thursday 12 November 1857, p2.
A seaman Alexander Leslie was fined 10/- for being drunk & disorderly aboard the "Nimrod".

Leslie's parent's seem to have been doing well being a ship owner and plenty of servants etc in the 1861 Census.

Gerry

Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Saturday 19 February 11 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Gerry,

Thanks for that info.  I'll follow up that Alex Leslie arriving at Sydney in 1871.

Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Ande on Monday 20 June 11 06:06 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I know this is an old thread, but I got interested in it because it mentioned Naracoorte - which is where I'm from. I just thought I'd let you know that there's still at least one family of Blackwells there that I know of. Derek Blackwell is the principal of the Naracoorte South Primary School. I don't know if you're interested in that kind of information. You can probably find him in the WhitePages though.

Cheers,
Ande
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: ellerydesign on Monday 20 June 11 19:35 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your message Ande. I'll definitely follow that one up.

Best wishes, Craig
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: kim401 on Saturday 25 April 15 23:23 BST (UK)
I'm a Great Great Granddaughter of John Barrett Blackwell. His son Alec was my Great Grandfather, his son John was the father of my father, Donald John. We don't know much about his family. I'm amazed to see so many siblings. Alec fought in WW1 and suffered a lot from his injuries (he was gassed in France). He developed a Parkinson's like disease due to the nerve damage he had sustained - I believe. His wife was (Winifred) Doris Bradshaw. They had three children; John, Bob and Margaret.
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Wayman on Friday 28 April 17 22:43 BST (UK)
Hi everyone - I was sitting talking to an elderly friend about her Great grandmother - Jemima Hoey - and we came across these posts.  She was fascinated to hear all the additional information.  Her great grandmother set up an infant school in Wanganui in 1880 and taught there for 27 years.   Her name is Janet Fenwicke (Russell).  She is 90 this year
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Wayman on Saturday 29 April 17 02:04 BST (UK)
Hi There - can anyone tell me please how many children Jemima Nena and Thomas Hoey had?   How many went to Wanganui with Jemima?

Thanks
 Pauline
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Wayman on Monday 15 May 17 22:39 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out a bit more information about Jemima McBeath (Mrs Hoey) who came to Wanganui New Zealand.   She is the great aunt of my 90 year old friend
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 16 May 17 08:23 BST (UK)
Hi Wayman,
Here is the marriage notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87946265 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87946761 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148886357

Ros
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: Wayman on Tuesday 16 May 17 08:29 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info.  I wonder if anyone knows how many children the Hoey's had in Australia?
Title: Re: BLACKWELL - Naracorte, South Australia
Post by: rosball on Tuesday 16 May 17 09:16 BST (UK)
I think some of the births have already been posted.

Here is Victorian BDM http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/
and here is South Australian BDM
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html

Both are free to search.

Ros