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Title: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Wednesday 16 February 11 13:22 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

My great grand father was a man named William Blease. I know that he died  in 1909 and lived in Northwich. I am 99% sure that he is not buried in Witton cemetery even though it opened in 1890. I am desperate to discover if he is buried in the old churchyard of Witton church which is adjacent to the cemetery. Does anybody know how I would go about viewing the grave/ burial registers of St Helen's, Witton church?

Thank you,

Adam Blease.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 16 February 11 13:43 GMT (UK)
ST HELEN’S CHURCH, WITTON, NORTHWICH – BURIAL REGISTERS
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Gillian-Margaret-John/FILE/0032page.html

Stan
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Wednesday 16 February 11 16:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan
Thanks for the link.
So is this the buriel register for the whole church yard?
Thanks,
Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 16 February 11 17:05 GMT (UK)
I don't know if this is the whole burial register as there is no information on the page and I cannot see a way to get to the home page of the site.

Stan
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Wednesday 16 February 11 17:22 GMT (UK)
Well I have searched right through and can not find my William Blease.

Do you know of a similar online source for the buriel registers of the cemetery so that i can double, double check.

Also, are you a Northwich man Stan? I just have no idea where else he would be buried??

Thank you.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 16 February 11 19:00 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I don't know of any other on-line site for the burial registers, but who ever made that list must have had access to it, and no, I'm not a 'Northwich Man'  :)

Stan
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: johnwill on Wednesday 16 February 11 23:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,
  The burial records are from Sue Wallworth,she put them up on rootsweb around nov 2003,she also did Great Budworth and also Davenham,mind you Blease family were also around Barnton which i think was also on rootsweb last year, i used to work with an Eric Blease from Barnton.
                           John
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: odessa on Thursday 17 February 11 10:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Adam,

The on-line records are the M.I.'s from the graveyard attached to St Helen's church, not a complete burial register. It may be that your ancestor is buried in the graveyard, but does not have a stone, or the stone was not legible at the time the information was gathered.

odessa.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 17 February 11 11:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Adam,

The on-line records are the M.I.'s from the graveyard attached to St Helen's church, not a complete burial register.
odessa.

It is a pity the title on the site says "St Helen's Church, Witton, Northwich – Burial Registers"

Stan
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Saturday 19 February 11 11:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you Odessa.
That at least gives me a bit of hope that I may find William on the actual registers.
Is it somewhere in Chester that will have these registers from the church?
Thanks,
Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Saturday 19 February 11 11:25 GMT (UK)
Hi John,
Thanks for replying to me.
Do you know how to view the lists for Great Budworth and Davenham that Sue did?
Thanks,
Adam Blease.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: odessa on Saturday 19 February 11 11:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Adam,

I consulted the burial registers for St Helen's this morning for you and couldn't find a burial c.1909 for a William Blease. Have you looked at the Northwich Cemetery registers to eliminate William Blease?
I did notice that when William Blease married Annie Evans at Witton in 1892, he gave his marital condition as "widower" it might be worth you finding his first wife's place of death and burial, it may hold a clue.
I had a quick look for a possible first marriage - there is one at Witton in 1885 of a William Blease, to a Mary Jane Stubbs.

odessa.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Saturday 19 February 11 23:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Odessa,
Thank you so much for doing that for me.
I am ever so confused as to his place of rest.
My dad said he has the marriage certificate to Annie Blease and noted two things....one was that Blease was with a Z and not an S, The other was that he was down as a widower.
Where did you consult the registers?
This mystery has been going on for so long now and I am desperate to find out.
Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: bullet on Sunday 20 February 11 05:35 GMT (UK)
I have William Blease's in my family, -  all from around Witton and Barnton.  I haven't done anything much on that side of the family as yet, only that my oldest William Blease born in 1740 and was my 5th great grandfather.
 I just had a quick look however in some preliminary notes of mine and the only William Blease that I could find that had died in Northwich around the time that you're looking for was one in 1904, at the age of 35 years.  There was another who died in 1904 at the age of 47, but that was in Bucklow.  Have you tried there?  I expect that you already have his death certificate which hopefully states his age.  I'm going away tomorrow for a week, but will check on this thread when I get back to see how you've got on and to see if I can find anything else to help you.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Sunday 20 February 11 10:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Bullet
My William Bleases death occured in Northwich in 1909. The birth was registered in I think Feb of this year and his age is given as 56 on freebmd.org.uk.
So how are you connected to the Bleases?
Thanks,
Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: odessa on Sunday 20 February 11 19:10 GMT (UK)
I looked at the burial register for St Helen's, Witton at Northwich Library.

odessa.

My dad said he has the marriage certificate to Annie Blease and noted two things....one was that Blease was with a Z and not an S, The other was that he was down as a widower.
Where did you consult the registers?
This mystery has been going on for so long now and I am desperate to find out.
Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Monday 21 February 11 12:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Odessa,

Quick question....If a person lived and died in Witton, Northwich but is not buried in Northwich church yard or cemetery then where else could they have been buried?

Im so confused with all this.....

Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: odessa on Monday 21 February 11 20:38 GMT (UK)
Adam,

Reply will be bit drawn out for the forum, so will send you a P.M.

Elaine.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Monday 21 February 11 21:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks, I will look forward to it
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: bullet on Sunday 27 February 11 03:09 GMT (UK)
Just got back from a 12 hour drive and still a bit tired but, - my William Blease (b abt 1740), married Ann Rylance, (b 1742) on 21 Feb 1762 in Witton cum Twambrooks - Cheshire Bisopt's Transcripts 1598-1900.  Among their children was William Blease b. 02 May, 1779.  (There was another William, - born and died in 1773.)    His sister, - Elizabeth, born 1768, married George Gorst and it was from that family that I am decended.

Now it might not be from the same family that your are researching, but, if it is, I have other children's names and birth dates listed here from the first William Blease if you are interested.  As I said originally, I haven't bothered to go that far out on those branches as yet.

Cheers
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Monday 28 February 11 18:11 GMT (UK)
ST HELEN’S CHURCH, WITTON, NORTHWICH – BURIAL REGISTERS
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Gillian-Margaret-John/FILE/0032page.html

Stan

Hi Stan
Do you have the links to these registers that were done for Marston and Great Budworth curches?
Thanks,
Adam.
Title: Re: W BLEASE
Post by: adj05 on Monday 28 February 11 18:14 GMT (UK)
Just got back from a 12 hour drive and still a bit tired but, - my William Blease (b abt 1740), married Ann Rylance, (b 1742) on 21 Feb 1762 in Witton cum Twambrooks - Cheshire Bisopt's Transcripts 1598-1900.  Among their children was William Blease b. 02 May, 1779.  (There was another William, - born and died in 1773.)    His sister, - Elizabeth, born 1768, married George Gorst and it was from that family that I am decended.

Now it might not be from the same family that your are researching, but, if it is, I have other children's names and birth dates listed here from the first William Blease if you are interested.  As I said originally, I haven't bothered to go that far out on those branches as yet.

Cheers

Hi there
Thanks for getting in touch.
Wow, I am nowhere near getting that far back yet with that side of my family. Iwonder if we are connected?
This side of my family is proving really hard to find.
I pressume if I come from this family it would be from one of the sons for the name of Blease to get all the way down to me.
Adam.