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Title: COMPLETED WITH THANKS Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Wednesday 16 February 11 01:51 GMT (UK)
Hello

Could someone please date this photo and if possible take off the spots and restore her to her glory days. She is the worse for wear in years. Look forward to any assistance provided. The back of the photo card is included.

Kind regards

Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: Katharine75 on Wednesday 16 February 11 01:57 GMT (UK)
late 1860s perhaps?
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: Niksmum on Wednesday 16 February 11 02:28 GMT (UK)
one from me

Irene
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Wednesday 16 February 11 03:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you so  much  Katherine for the date ! Appreciate it.  :D

And Irene, that is so lovely thank you.  :D I guess the photo wasn't easy to work with. It does make a big difference without the spots, looks like rust?

Love it all. So appreciate your comments.

Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 16 February 11 03:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Judi, well, the sleeve and the long bodice are typical of the frilly early 1870s, as is the chignon high on the head. The lady is wearing a bustle which went out of fashion in about 1875, so I'd place this photo between about 1872 and 1875.

But the back bothers me...it isn't typical.

I'd really like to see the whole card please Judi, uncropped. I need to see the corners, very important. Can do?

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Wednesday 16 February 11 03:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks China,  ;) I will check the back, make sure it was sent with the correct photo and try to resize the back.   :-\Apparently I am not sending the photos in the correct dpi as well...furiously reading all the tech info provided by roots chat...big learning curve... :-[

Also sad I missed Carolyn's gorgeous sepia of previous thread until just this minute when I happened to go back. :'(       Didn't see notification of her input, or yours relating to it. Is that because I closed that thread?

Thanks for helping me.

Regards
Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 16 February 11 03:50 GMT (UK)
No, not because you closed the thread...make sure you have "notify" switched on...and make sure your notifications aren't going into your junk mail, that's happened to me a couple of times.

If you are having these photos sent from somewhere else, please ask them to scan the entire photo and leave it uncropped. Don't include the scanner lid, of course :D

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Wednesday 16 February 11 04:38 GMT (UK)
Ok, thanks again  for the information China.  ;D

The back does go with this photo, enclosed is how it came. It shows part of the edge only.


Cheers,  hope it works.  :(

Kind regards
Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Wednesday 16 February 11 05:06 GMT (UK)
Well...the photographer was at 2 Devonshire Place from 1864 to 1873, and as it's really not an 1860s style of dress I'd narrow the date range down from about 1871ish to 1873 :) He moved to a different address in New Cross early in 1873 but could have been using up old cardstock for a little while.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Wednesday 16 February 11 07:14 GMT (UK)
Oh, interesting, thanks again China. Lots of information there and a narrow time line.  :D

Thank you very much.

Cheers
Judi

Appreciate input of everyone too. Thank you.
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: saddles on Wednesday 16 February 11 09:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Judi..........Another cracking photo.

Carolyn  :)
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Wednesday 16 February 11 10:15 GMT (UK)
Carolyn, Carolyn.......( I must like that name, I called my middle daughter Carolyn... shes 40. She says no one is allowed to call call her 'Caroline,' which she hates, so sorry to any Carolines.....its her issue, not mine...)

Carolyn, I'm afraid I don't have the words to explain what I feel about your beautiful artwork, no smiley faces would do it justice........just thank you from my heart.

Kind regards
Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: J.Jels on Thursday 17 February 11 00:40 GMT (UK)
nice piccy
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Thursday 17 February 11 01:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks! China or anyone who is there....on this. During that time period, was there a date for a girl to have a special photo done, 16,18,21 as there has been in some eras? She is very young and not sure which sister she is.  :-\

Thanks again
Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 17 February 11 02:50 GMT (UK)
Well...as far as I know Victorians liked to mark milestones with photos, but I'm not entirely sure of the significance of various birthdays except that 21 was considered a social adult and 18 was an adult as far as the labour laws were concerned.

Why don't you ask this in the Common Room, you'll get greater exposure there :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Thursday 17 February 11 03:03 GMT (UK)
errr........I'll try to find the common room and do that. Always willing to learn. Thanks always China.  :)

Cheers Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 17 February 11 04:57 GMT (UK)
Common Room

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=46

While you're there, have a look around the child boards listed at the top of the threads, the Lighter Side and Totally Off Topic...there's some good fun there :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: saddles on Thursday 17 February 11 05:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you Judi for your gratitude it is much appreciated.

By the way is your daughter Carolyn a Virgo ?.

As for the name Carolyn, my mum wanted to name me Carol and dad said make it a bit different and add a yn.

Regards Carolyn  :D
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Thursday 17 February 11 06:32 GMT (UK)
No Carolyn, she is a Taurus, but not a typical one...if there is such a thing.

Best
Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Thursday 17 February 11 06:46 GMT (UK)
China thanks again. You mentioned the photographer was at 2 Devonshire Place until 1873, then moved to New Cross. I pinpoint the photo being taken in 1872, the year Annie emigrated to South Africa, having had the photo taken before she left...perhaps.

I googled Devonshire Place, its shows one in Leicester. Must be in London, yes?

I do have more photos, but have to check the dpi and back first.  :-\

Also, its taken in South Africa, will that be a problem? They seemed to be fairly well inline with English fashion at the time, but its a nice photo. Will get it ready to maybe post tomorrow. Great Stuff. Cheers Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 17 February 11 07:09 GMT (UK)
1872, very nice :)

SA fashion, like most of the western world, was likely driven by London and Paris just as today....ladies' magazines brought the latest styles and local dressmakers made them up. Should be in about the same date range as the more prominent places.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Thursday 17 February 11 07:24 GMT (UK)
Well, it was you really who did all the work to pinpoint 1872 of course. Well done you!  :D  You didn't say about Devonshire Place, sorry, just that it seems important, as it might have been on the way to the ship virtually.

I would reckon on that photographic company being all in London, would you guess?

Oh to be in England.......again........sigh.......

cheers jud

Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 17 February 11 15:51 GMT (UK)
I did...in a PM. You PM'd me, so I PM'd you back ;D ;D ;D

I'd like to be in England again too :-\

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Friday 18 February 11 01:23 GMT (UK)
Oh, sorry, oops and apologies.  :-[

I misunderstood.

Cheers
Judi
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: cazza59 on Friday 18 February 11 09:47 GMT (UK)
Carolyn, Carolyn.......( I must like that name, I called my middle daughter Carolyn... shes 40. She says no one is allowed to call call her 'Caroline,' which she hates, so sorry to any Carolines.....its her issue, not mine...)

I find this so funny and I can totally relate to your daughter, as I will not answer to Carolyn or Carol, not that their is anything wrong with the names, it's just they're not my name!  There was only one person that ever got away with calling me Carol and that was my Grandmother, bless her.  Funnily enough, I am also a Taurean, so it must be the stubburness in us!   ;D ;D

Anyway, out of boredom I had some fun with your photo!

Regards
Caroline  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Old photo dating and restoration please
Post by: JudithS on Friday 18 February 11 10:01 GMT (UK)
Dear Cazz, that's what I call her too, and she does like it. Funny little chicken she is, doing naturapathy, reflexology and teaches yoga. Independent to a fault!!!  Love her lots for her individualism, skepticism and for being able to think out of the square.

Thank you so much for the photo of Annie. Love it :D

Thank you Cazz.

Regads Judi