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Title: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: davidft on Tuesday 15 February 11 21:17 GMT (UK)
Would someone be able to do a look up in the parish records of Leadgate for me please.

I am looking for the burial of a Joseph Dodd (born 1847) and an Isabella Dodd (born 1848). they were last seen on the 1911 census at 167 Bottle Bank, Leadgate.

they may be down as Dodds as the name was sometimes recorded as such. I have searched the GRO indexes and can not find a suitable registration for either their ages or in Lanchester RD.

thank you
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 15 February 11 22:29 GMT (UK)
There are a few possibilities on freebmd under DODDS but the ages are not exact

Joseph b 1852 and Isabella 1853 - both in 1913

Isabella b 1852 - 1929

However - that is only using the RD as Lanchester.  There is no guarantee that they continued living in that RD after 1911
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: davidft on Tuesday 15 February 11 22:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole,

Thanks for looking

I spotted those but I can rule them out as there are wills on the national probate index that give enough information to discount them.
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: The Mc on Tuesday 15 February 11 22:41 GMT (UK)
Between 1911 and 1921, I can find the death of an Isabella Dodds in the Gateshead District in March 1911 aged 62 (vol. 10a page 533), that would make her born in 1849, just 1 year out from your date.......

I can find the death of a Joseph Dodds in the Lanchester District in March 1913 aged 61 (vol 10a page 500), that would make him born in 1852.

There is also another death in the Gateshead District in December 1921 aged 70 (vol 10a page 953), that would make him born in 1851.

Any chance any of these could be them? Info from FreeBMD.......
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: davidft on Wednesday 16 February 11 15:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking Mc

The 1911 Isabella Dodds I can discount as I have that certificate - and its the wrong one.

The 1913 Joseph Dodds I have discounted because there is a will on the national probate index and the 1901 census which together rule him out.

The 1921 Joseph I have also ruled out based on the 1901 census records.

It seems Isanella and Joseph Dodd(s) was a not uncommon combination and is causing several people I have asked a similar problem in not being able to find the correct death.
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: The Mc on Wednesday 16 February 11 16:12 GMT (UK)
Don't give up on it, you will get there in the end!
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: mandymoo27 on Wednesday 16 February 11 18:43 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have been looking for the burial of my gg grandfather Robert Blake French for 10 years now and am still searching.

He was definitely buried in St. Ives, Leadgate. and when my father died we decided to scatter his ashes on the family plot.  I was absolutely devastated it had certainly been neglected for some time.  The grass was nearly 2 ft high.

I complained and complained and eventually the grass was cut and it has been cut regularly and well looked after for 5 years now.  Whats more interesting is that the more the grass is cut more and more headstones appear that have probably been buried or lost for many years now.  I only live half a mile from St. Ives so I do visit quite often on the off chance that my headstone will appear.

If you ring 01207 218815 they are so helpful and are prepared to do FREE look ups in their burial records, another plus is if they cant find your burial in a specific graveyard they are more than prepared to search every graveyard in every district within Derwentside.

There is another graveyard in Leadgate which is called BROOMS this may be worth an ask aswell.

If you can let me know if you have any positive results and I will pop along and take some pictures for you.

Sorry if its a bit long winded  ::)
Hope it helps

Amanda
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: davidft on Wednesday 16 February 11 19:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you Amanda,

I will give that number a try - I take it its the number of the Church \ cemetery

Will let you know how I get on

David
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: mandymoo27 on Wednesday 16 February 11 19:18 GMT (UK)
Its the number for Cemetary Services at Derwentside Distric Council.

GOOD LUCK  ;D
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: davidft on Thursday 17 February 11 14:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Amanda,

I gave them a ring. They do not have the burial plan for St Ives but what they have is a plan of the monuments (gravestones) in the cemetery. There is only one Dodds and he is not connected to the ones I am looking for. They did helpfully suggest I contact the church direct as they should still have the burial plans for the cemetery.

I will hold off for a while to see if I get any more replies to the emails i have sent to various people and I will also try to look at the electoral register for the area back then

Thank you for your help

David
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: mandymoo27 on Thursday 17 February 11 14:50 GMT (UK)
My "French" family have had a lot of involvement with St. Ives since the late 1890's.

My great Uncle was a choir boy there many years ago and he knows for a fact that all of the registers survived a fire that occurred despite claims from the current vicar and county Durham records office, he has actually seen them.

He contacted Mr Heron direct and I called to his house, unfortunately I think it was of a hassle to help us and advised that there was no surviving registers I KNOW THAT THERE WAS and it is most frustrating.

I have just contacted them myself and the last time they updated their records was Oct 2005 so its well overdue.  I have asked for access or a copy to their databases I have to write into the Manager so I will keep you updated.

In the meantime I do visit quite regularly so I will have a good look round at the new stones (not on the council list) and see if I can find any Dodds.
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: AsH62 on Sunday 16 June 13 13:43 BST (UK)
Hi. I have just found this thread from a few years ago and am excited to see St Ives Leadgate come up in the conversation. I have been looking for the death/burial place for my great great grandparents for ages as have my mother, her cousin and her aunt. They were a mining family of Irish descent called Kennedy and they lived most of their adult lives at Iveston, mostly at 10 Redwells Hills Cottages. They were Hugh Kenney 1842-? and Dorothy nee fairless 1842-1918 and in 1911 they were living at 10 Redwells Cottage as was Dorothy on her death certificate. I have been told that St Ives is the closest church and therefore the one that they must be buried there but i haven't managed to get an address to contact. I will call the number on this thread and hope it is still live, it may tell me when Hugh died which is still a mystery although Dorothy was a widow in 1918. If anyone has come across a grave for either of them I would love to know, mum and Marcia are in their 80s and have been looking without the advantage of the internet for over 50 years!
Alison
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: barryd on Sunday 23 June 13 00:49 BST (UK)
St. Ives, Leadgate is not a parish that seems to have been transcribed/filmed by any outside organization, certainly not by familysearch.org/Genealogical Society of Utah. The local Roman Catholic Church, Our Blessed Lady and St. Joseph, Broom has been filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah. St. Ives records which are current should be available at the church and older ones at the  Durham Record Office.
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: AsH62 on Monday 24 June 13 11:01 BST (UK)
Hi.
Thank you for your response, the Durham Records Office came up trumps. 
I tried the phone number that someone mentioned, that local council has now merged with Durham and there was no response but the Durham Council Records Office located my great great grandfather, his death had been wrongly recorded by both surname and date of birth so I would never have found it.

Thank you for your help
Alison
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: johnsonmay on Friday 13 September 13 10:44 BST (UK)
Hello Alison

Hugh and Dorothy are my great grand-parents. I remember visiting their grave at St. Ives Church in Leadgate sometime in the 80's, long before I became interested in family history. I didn't note any details at the time and recently I have been trying to track down the date of death of Hugh but without success. Please tell me the surname his death was recorded under and any other details you have. My branch of the family comes through their daughter Eliza Jane. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: AsH62 on Friday 13 September 13 10:49 BST (UK)
HI. Good timing I have just taken a break from work and thought I would spend a few minutes doing some family history.
Hugh was registered as Hugh Condy which is why it is impossible to find. In the end the Durham records office helped me and now but I have his death certificate and Dorothy's and their marriage certificate. You are welcome to copies if you want to send me your e-mail. I am on  (*)
I would love to share any other information if you would like to .
Alison

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Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: johnsonmay on Friday 13 September 13 11:16 BST (UK)
Hello again. That makes sense. My aunt said their surname was changed when they came from Ireland and she mentioned Condy. So it looks as if his death may have been recorded against his birth surname (I'm not sure if this is correct). I've sent you a personal message which should contain my email address and I'd be very pleased to receive a copy of his death certificate. We already have the marriage certificate of Hugh and Dorothy (under the names of Kennedy and Fairless).

All the best

Mavis
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: AsH62 on Friday 13 September 13 11:25 BST (UK)
Hi Mavis
I can't see your e-mail on the message but I haven't used Rootschat much and may be staring at it.
I can't believe that you have heard the name Condy before! We thought it was a mis print. Mum's cousin picked up her mother's family research and carried on over 40 years ago and they haven't managed to find the connection to Ireland apart from Dungannon never mind the change of name.

Alison
PS I am descended through Dorothy Ellen 
Title: Re: Leadgate, St Ives (Co Durham)
Post by: bernice52 on Wednesday 08 May 19 08:57 BST (UK)
Hi from New Zealand

is anyone able to visit the church at St Ives Leadgate to look for grave plot # 165  it has a gt grandmother Sarah A & James MOOR   the Durham records & Council offices  do not have a graveyard plan for this church so only direct communication will help
which I cant do
many thanks bernice