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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: jennifer5 on Sunday 13 February 11 12:50 GMT (UK)
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I have found a record of a civil war pension for a Greenleaf Celdon Rogers. Can anyone tell me how to get further information on the pension records or service of said person? His wife Laura must have received a widows pension following his death. It seems this was in Colorado, but am unable to find any trace of Greenleaf or his wife Laura on the census. I know that his son Frank Celdon Rogers was born in Midland Michigan 1871, so Colorado is a mystery. No record of them on the 1870 census. This is a real brick wall. Any help appreciate.
Thanks Jen
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Could this be him?
Greenlief or Greenleaf C. Rogers, residing Dover, Maine, enlisted at age 22 on 28 May 1861 as a private, served in Maine, enlisted in Company D, Maine 2nd Infantry Regiment on 28 May 1861, received a disability discharge from Company D, 2nd Infantry Regiment Maine on 21 Nov. 1862, enlisted in Company K, Maine 31st Infantry Regiment on 29 Apr. 1864 as a private at age 24, discharged from Company K, 31st Infantry Regiment Maine on 7 Aug. 1865 as a private, and survived the war.
The pension index mentions the Maine infantries, so looks like that's your guy.
On an index of deceased Union soldiers' headstones, there is a Greenleaf C. Rogers of Company D, Maine 2nd Infantry Regiment buried at or near Midland, Mich.
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Wow, that is exciting. Thank you so much. Do you think there is more to get on his record or would that be all. Are you able to share the sources of this information?
Man, many thanks,Jen
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It's from a subscription site. :) There are some Civil War links here, so you can see what's available online: http://www.militaryindexes.com/civilwar/
Looks like you may be able to find some information about Maine on these sites:
http://www.maine.gov/sos/arc/research/civilwar2/
http://www.civilwararchive.com/unionme.htm
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ROGERS, Greenwood C. d/1/22/1872 age 34y8m "erected by his wife L.B." CO D 2 ME INF (GAR)
http://files.usgwarchives.net/mi/midland/cemeteries/m34525.txt
Midland Cemetery
3017 Orchard Drive
Midland, MI 48640
Phone Number: (989) 832-2807
maybe they will take a picture
look ups here
http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/midland/
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I have found a record of a civil war pension for a Greenleaf Celdon Rogers. Can anyone tell me how to get further information on the pension records or service of said person? His wife Laura must have received a widows pension following his death. It seems this was in Colorado, but am unable to find any trace of Greenleaf or his wife Laura on the census. I know that his son Frank Celdon Rogers was born in Midland Michigan 1871, so Colorado is a mystery. No record of them on the 1870 census. This is a real brick wall. Any help appreciate.
Thanks Jen
ROGERS, GREENWOOD C (1870 U.S. Census)
MICHIGAN , MIDLAND, MIDLAND
Age: 32, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: ME
Series: M593 Roll: 690 Page: 153
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On www.familysearch.org, there's a Greenwood Calvin Rogers born 17 May 1838 in Maine. That seems to fit the age on the headstone.
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Many thanks to Ohio Susan and Shelley esq. That certainly looks like Greenleaf but what are your thoughts on the discrepancy in names? (His wife was called Laura Bernice, by the way. On the pension document it says McDonald but on other places Bernice Ross!) It definitely calls him Greenleaf Celdon on the pension doc.
jen
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Name: Greenleif Roggers
Death Date: 28 Jan 1872
Death Place: Mount Haley, Midland, Michigan
Gender: Male
Death Age: 34 years
Estimated Birth Date: 1838
Birthplace: Dover, Maine
Marital Status: Married
Father's Name: Wm Roggers
Mother's Name: Louisa Roggers
Occupation: Lumberman
Film Number: 2363451
Digital Folder Number: 4207870
Image Number: 1084
Reference Number: p 221 rn 6
Massachusetts Marriages, 1695-1910
Groom's Name: Frank Greenleaf Celdon Rogers
Groom's Birth Date: 1872
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 29
Bride's Name: Sarah Rebecca Mcphee
Bride's Birth Date: 1873
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 28
Marriage Date: 15 Jan 1901
Marriage Place: Westborough, Worcester, Massachusetts
Groom's Father's Name: Greenleaf
Groom's Mother's Name: Bernice Ross
Bride's Father's Name: Isreal
Bride's Mother's Name: Eliza Ryan
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04173-2
System Origin: Massachusetts-EASy
Source Film Number: 2130145
Reference Number: 566
Searched "Greenleif" at family search
maybe there are 2
Oops -the marriage could be his son
The 1870 census has Laura B Rogers
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If you have the identifying information from the pension index, you can order a copy of either the full Civil War pension application ($75) or just the pension information ($25). Differences between the two are explained on the application form.
http://www.archives.gov/forms/pdf/natf-85.pdf
I ordered the full packet many years ago for my gr grandfather. It has hand written letters telling of the battles he was in and how he became disabled after contacting pnuemonia. It discusses his return home and has affidavits from his doctor attesting to his breathing problems. It also includes the name of his wife and when they were married, the names and their dates of birth of their children, and he has to update his request for the pension every few years as the laws change.
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Firstly, Ohio- many thanks. Surely it seems unlikely that there were 2 Rogers born in Maine, same age, same , wife Laura Bernice, Bernice dying in the same place in Midland Michigan. I can see that there may have been a transcription error on with his birth record. This has me perplexed
Genealiza- I think this would be a good idea. It would be important to get all the information to complete the search.
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I found an article in the Daily Kennebec (Maine) Journal from 3 Feb. 1872 that says the following:
"Mr. Greenleaf Rogers, while at work lumbering in Michigan, was accidentally killed a few days since by a log falling from a sled behind him, breaking his neck. He was a former resident of Dover, but has for a few years been employed in the woods of that State, where he leaves a wife and one or two children. His age was about 32 years."
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Oh That is wonderful. What a researcher you are!
Jen
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Name: Greenleif Roggers
Death Date: 28 Jan 1872
Death Place: Mount Haley, Midland, Michigan
Gender: Male
Death Age: 34 years
Estimated Birth Date: 1838
Birthplace: Dover, Maine
Marital Status: Married
Father's Name: Wm Roggers
Mother's Name: Louisa Roggers
Occupation: Lumberman
Film Number: 2363451
Digital Folder Number: 4207870
Image Number: 1084
Reference Number: p 221 rn 6
Ohio Susan,
Can you tell me what kind of records this is, because there does not appear to be a death certificate, Yet there must be. There must have been a inquest or report on this locally. No death certificate seems strange.
Jenny
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https://www.familysearch.org/
searched "greenleaf Roggers"
Greenleif Roggers
Michigan Deaths, 1867-1897
probably no death certificate just report of death - you can view it
same kind of report of death in Ohio - certificates did not start until 1908
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There is also similar information here - http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/gendisx/scripts/individual.asp?UniqueID=102364 It's not entirely clear from that site who maintains the records, but it seems that this information comes from ledger books.
He's also listed here, although the last name was transcribed as Riggers: http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/midland/MCD1872.htm That site says that "years are mixed together due to when the death was reported to the county clerk." http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/midland/midlandvitals.htm So I'm guessing the town reported the information to the county. There are some people in Midland Co. who do look-ups listed here: http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/midland/MidlandLookups.htm Maybe they would know better what is available as far as vital records from then.
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Thanks for this valuable source of information. You have pointed me int he direction of some other places to look. I am surprised to hear there were no death records, although the information is about as complete as you would get on a death certificate. I have asked for someone to look at the grave and hope there still is one and there is some confirming information on it.
Jenny