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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: bossy wifey on Sunday 13 February 11 11:58 GMT (UK)
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Valda, I was thrilled to see the postings you have done on London Burials, feeling sure I would be able to track down my great-grandparents at last.
However, no luck. Do you, or does anyone, know where I can find information on those who died in the St Pancras South Infirmary in 1914 and 1916. William and Elizabeth Biggs were in the St Pancras Workhouse before being moved to and dying in the Infirmary.
regards
Monica
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Hi Monica
Have you checked here?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bug/
800,000 burials have recently been added to the database
Dawn
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Hi
The guide (I did write it somewhile ago now) does give information on this database
'There is a pay as you view database called ‘DECEASED ONLINE' which so far a few London boroughs (Brent, Camden and Islington and Havering) have contributed to..'
If the families didn't claim the bodies then the workhouse would have them buried. Logically you might think it would be the closest cemetery. However London cemeteries competed for workhouse/institution burials and offered deals, so you might find one buried in one cemetery and another buried in a different cemetery further away.
If they don't both turn up in 'Deceased Online' cemeteries then it might be possible to track what cemeteries the workhouse was using and when through the poor law guardian minutes.
Regards
Valda
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Many thanks Valda and Dawn for the info on London burials. My grandfather's name is listed as a contact against both his parents details so maybe their bodies were claimed and maybe I'll track them down in time.
Monica
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Hi Monica
There is an entry for William Biggs buried 3rd Sept 1914 at Islington found at Deceased Online, the link I gave earlier.
Is this a possible match for your William?
If so, you'll need to pay to view the entry.
Dawn
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Morning Dawn
That entry certainly looks promising especially now I know that Highgate Hospital was the North Infirmary of the St Pancras Workhouse network. William Biggs' body could have been moved from the South Infirmary to the North and thence to the cemetery. The age given on the record is wrong by 5 years but that could be explained by dodgy handwriting, etc.
I have an entry from the 1885 Creed Register for the St Pancras Workhouse that I can't decipher. On 17th Dec. William, Elizabeth and Arthur Biggs are shown as being admitted from ? It looks as though the first word is Whitgate but what the next two bits are I don't know. If I send you the page number for the volume would you have a look if you have time, please. I expect you will have come across a similar entry before.
Many thanks
Monica
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Deceased Online has come up trumps!
I now have not only the burial records of William and Elizabeth Biggs, but also those of their three infant sons who all died in the St Pancras Workhouse, and those of an illegitimate infant daughter of Elizabeth.
Dawn, the William Biggs buried in Islington isn't mine after all.
Can anyone tell me the difference between the classes of burial? The above children all had 4th class burials and the adults 3rd.
Thank you so much for your help. I am quite cock a hoop!
Regards
Monica
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Hi
Mozart received a 3rd class funeral apparently. The website lists what you got in Vienna in 1791 for the different classes of funeral.
http://www.mozartsmtm.org/MISSING/index.html
Regards
Valda
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Hi Monica
The address is Whitfield Place, and the street is still there, London W1, just off Tottenham Court Road.
the other letters could be chbrs, an abbreviation for Chambers?
I'll try to have a look at the register if it is fit for consulation.
Dawn
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Morning Dawn
Whitfield Place, it's so clear now that you have told me what to look for - thank you. There's an entry a little higher up on the same page in the Creed register also from Whitfield Place.
I am intrigued by something: Elizabeth Biggs, who was in and out of the St Pancras Workhouse on a fairly regular basis from 1870 onwards, was last recorded there in Jan 1885. My next record is in the Whitechapel Infirmary in October of that year where she has my grandfather, Arthur, in Nov 1885.
One month later, she and Arthur (and husband William) are back in the workhouse at St Pancras, coming in from Whitfield Place. I wonder if, having lost four babies in St Pancras, she thought she'd see how things were at Whitechapel. I'm quite taken with the idea but of course will never know.
Thanks to you and Valda for everything
Monica