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Title: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: JOOBLES on Thursday 10 February 11 16:04 GMT (UK)
I can't find FELIX LAKER in 1861. He was born in 1842 West Grinstead, Sussex and would have been unmarried at the time and aged 18 or 19.
I've tried variations on the spellings but have had no luck. He was in W.Grinstead with his family in 1851 and then married & living in Thakeham in 1871 so where was he hiding in 1861 ??
Can anyone help me please ???
Thankyou for your time.
Julie
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: amber39 on Thursday 10 February 11 16:21 GMT (UK)
I think that your Felix Laker was a footman in Paddington.

RG9  Piece11  F 93  Pg. 3            106 Westbourne Terrace.


Felix Laker   age 17   Footman    b. West Grinstead
He was transcribed as Albert


Regards   Amber39
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: JOOBLES on Thursday 10 February 11 16:32 GMT (UK)
Hi, Yes I found him but Felix did have a brother called Albert who was only a year younger so I assumed that would be him.
On the original census it clearly says Albert - I thought if the writing for 'Felix' was unclear it could have been mis-transcribed and they just guessed at it being Albert.
Hmmmm not sure what to think now.
Thanks for looking though.
Julie
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: Patricia jackson on Thursday 10 February 11 16:49 GMT (UK)
No I too cannot find him. mind you saying that I cannot find an Albert either. Was Felix definately on it? Could he have been out of the country - perhaps in the forces?.could the name be wrongly transcribed? Some people mistrusted the census and made sure they did not go on it - or even gave a different name.
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: amber39 on Thursday 10 February 11 17:43 GMT (UK)
pejay
There was an Albert  he was born in 1844(3) according to BMD.

Felix was born 1882(3)

Still can't find Felix in 1861. I looked under Criminal records , nothing there.

This is bugging me so will keep trying.


Regards    Amber39
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: JOOBLES on Thursday 10 February 11 18:38 GMT (UK)
Hi, Felix was born in 1842 not 1882.

I suppose he may have just not been on the census. I don't think he was in the forces.

pejay ... if you look on Genes Reunited and tap in Albert Laker b.1844 he comes up in 1861 - he was a footman in the household of Henry Benjamin Walmsley who was a maltster. So that's Felix's younger brother found but I wish I could find Felix !!

Julie
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: amber39 on Thursday 10 February 11 22:48 GMT (UK)
Sorry fo giving  the wrong year of Felix's birth.

Senility!!

Regards   Amber30
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: JOOBLES on Thursday 10 February 11 22:54 GMT (UK)
I know the feeling amber39 or 30 as per your previous signature  ;D ;D  !!!!
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: amber39 on Thursday 10 February 11 23:34 GMT (UK)
That's right  knock the afflicted.  !!!!!

Amber39
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: farmerbower on Wednesday 25 May 11 21:18 BST (UK)
Not sure whether you are researching Albert Laker but he was the first husband of my gt gt grandmother, Sarah Bower and they married on 12 April 1864 in the Parish Church of St George Bloomsbury. Both their addresses are given as 10 Wilmot Street.  John Laker, Farmer is Albert's father and Robert Bower, Watchman is Sarah's father.  Witnesses were Henry Adams and Sophia Williams.  Not sure who these two are but they may be of interest to you at some point in your search.  Albert died young of "effusion of service on brain" when he was an omnibus conductor leaving Sarah a young widow with three children, one I traced later on living in Warwick married to a Frank Smith Nash, Asylum Attendant.  Sarah went on to have many children with Thomas Smith (marriage details never found) and died in Warwick Workhouse in 1909.  I have the Laker family in 1851 at 15 Honey Lodge, West Grinstead but by Felix Laker's name I have put 1871 Thakeham.  I wrote this a few years ago but suspect this is where he was although for some reason haven't put full details, probably knowing me because I had ran out of credits on the ancestry website and just had enough to see that he was in Thakeham.  Hope this helps.  If I find anything else about the 1861 in any of my files I will let you know.

Regards

Helen
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: JOOBLES on Wednesday 25 May 11 22:16 BST (UK)
Hi Helen,

The 1851 entry for our Laker family in W.Grinstead is actually Honeybridge not Honey Lodge.... just thought I'd point that out in case you were trying to research the area.  The family were also there in 1841.  I have Felix in all the census years except 1861 so maybe he was just missed for some reason or wrongly transcribed.

Thanks for the info. on Albert.  I haven't been researching him, only his brother Felix, seeing as that's my direct line but thanks for the details though. It's always nice to know bits & pieces and of course that makes us related !!!

I'd love to see photo's of them but I don't have any unfortunately. I expect someone out there has some and I live in hope of finding one sometime.

Regards,  Julie
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: farmerbower on Thursday 26 May 11 09:20 BST (UK)
Hello

Just checked my file again and looks like I couldn't find the entire family except Albert in 1861 either.  It's possible they are missed off or under a mistranscribed name although knowing me I would have looked for that.  Another possibility is they emigrated in between censuses, and returned by the next one, something I have come across a few times on different sides of the family.

Also thanks for the details about the address in 1851.  Looks like I had read that wrong!

If I come across anything else I will let you know.

All the best

Helen
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: JOOBLES on Thursday 26 May 11 09:39 BST (UK)
Hi again Helen.

You wouldn't be able to find Albert and Felix's parents (John & Ruth) on the 1861 census because they both died before that date.  I have all their death details if you want them any time.

Regards

Julie
Title: Re: 1861 census look up FELIX LAKER please
Post by: farmerbower on Thursday 26 May 11 09:45 BST (UK)
Hello

Thanks for that.  I will make a note of their deaths for future reference.

All the best

Helen