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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: andy_barnsley on Monday 07 February 11 19:03 GMT (UK)
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Hi
This photo was in a box of old pictures given to me by a relative.
Is there anyone out there who could help me with an Identification etc
Here's Hoping
Andy
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Is it Mallard?
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Maybe not, try google on York rail museum and see if you can see something similar.
It may be an A4 class of the LNER
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Thanks .... will try
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Duchess of Hamilton or similar in that class.
Sorry I was wrong first try.
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Hi,
It's a Coronation class pacific of the L.M.S. Often known as 'Duchesses' as scouseboy's post suggests. The streamlined casing was later removed.
Rafter
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Hi,
Coronation Scot ?
Bob
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The name of the train was the Coronation Scot. The locomotive was of the "Princess Coronation" class http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Princess_Coronation_Class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN8MiGx0uiI
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How can you tell that is that one? Can you read the name or the number?
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I didn't say it was any particular one, so I'm not sure what you're on about ???
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Thank you for all your amazingly quick responses.
Andy
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Its definatly not Mallard, wrong shape.
I have sent it to my Dad to see if he can give you an ID, and I have a feeling I know the coastline in the background too.
Dads a train fanatic, and steam trains are his forte!
Gaille
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Hiya,
Dads had a look at it & he agrees, he says its an LMS Princess Coronation, (I was told I have to tell you its LMS, not LNER)
He says it was taken just Pre-War.
LOL n do you want to know the location of the Coastline behind it?
Its taken at Hesk Bank, near Morcambe Bay.
Gaille
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Its taken at Hesk Bank, near Morcambe Bay.
I wondered where it was :) actually Hest Bank http://tinyurl.com/66ez43l
Hest Bank was one of those places where steam engines could replenish their water supply while on the move. There was a narrow trough of water laid between the rails and, by lowering a scoop beneath the tender (where the water and coal was carried) into the trough, thousands of gallons of water could be picked up.
On the photo can be seen a "cloud" of water under the first coach, which is probably overflow from the tank-filling process which has just taken place.
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Thanks very much Gaille - you dad is a star !!
What I didnt mention is that the card came in a folder from a Morecambe based photographer - so he must be spot on with the location !!
Geoff - thanks too for your help / additional information
Andy
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The Coronation Scot was also the name of the service as well as an individual engine, like the
LNER's Flying Scotsman.
I think this is early war before the streamlined casing was removed (for easier servicing) as there is x1 carriage that is lined like the engine (behind it), and several odd bods, which means that the service wasnt running as per the Glory Days of 1937...
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The Coronation Scot was also the name of the service as well as an individual engine, like the LNER's Flying Scotsman.
As far as I am aware, Coronation Scot was only the name of the service, no locomotive ever had that name.
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There was "Coronation" and was commonly known as the Coronation Scot...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LMS_Princess_Coronation_Class_6220_Coronation
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Its taken at Hesk Bank, near Morcambe Bay.
I wondered where it was :) actually Hest Bank http://tinyurl.com/66ez43l
Hest Bank was one of those places where steam engines could replenish their water supply while on the move. There was a narrow trough of water laid between the rails and, by lowering a scoop beneath the tender (where the water and coal was carried) into the trough, thousands of gallons of water could be picked up.
On the photo can be seen a "cloud" of water under the first coach, which is probably overflow from the tank-filling process which has just taken place.
LOL I was taking the info down over the phone at 1am, hehe think I can be allowed 1 teeny spelling mistake :p
Strange thing is, as I said in my 1st post I recognised the location first n I couldnt put a name to where it was until he said the name. Strange how a view can stick in your head subconciously, it must be a good 20 years since I was there last.
Gaille
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Definitely LMS Coronation Class Pacific! Definitely NOT LNER A4 Class pacific (Mallard etc)
Taking water at speed on any railway line was a precision operation, lower the scoop too early and it damaged on the end of the trough. Lower it too late and insufficient water would be taken, necessitating an additional stop at a water column to refill the tank, thus causing delay. Raise it too late and it broke on the other end of the trough, raise it too early and the passengers in the front of the train would be soaked through any open windows. Trough locations were designated by a large white board with black wavy lines on at the side of the track.