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Title: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: davidhardcastle on Monday 07 February 11 17:06 GMT (UK)
I have a gr gr gr grandfather George Hart apparently born in Agley ??? Worcestershire in 1817 but can't find his accendants....
He also married a Maria that I don't know her maiden name..

Can anyone help please  ;D
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: lizdb on Monday 07 February 11 17:13 GMT (UK)
before you can find his chr, and hence his parents, you will need to confirm your info.
Where did this Agley place come from? Is it consistant on all censuses?
Did he marry after 1837? If so, his marriage cert will give his fathers name and occupation, also Maria's, so will be a help in finding the right family in PArish registers.

The birth cert of yr gr gr grandparent (if after 1837) will give Marias maiden name and thus help lead you to the right marriage.
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: Emjaybee on Monday 07 February 11 18:29 GMT (UK)
Could it be Hagley?
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: davidhardcastle on Monday 07 February 11 22:29 GMT (UK)
the 1861 census states Worcestershire Agley, definitely starts with an A...other censuss just state  Worcestershire
I think they married around 1837, most likely just before unfortunately!
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: linell on Tuesday 08 February 11 04:24 GMT (UK)
Could it be Hagley?

I agree definitely Hagley...........

Linell.
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 08 February 11 11:45 GMT (UK)
I can see the 1861 (RG9 3710 74 20)

But I cant see them in 1851! Have you got the ref?

And in 1841, are theythe family where the Dad is called Charles, rather than George? HO107 981 6, in Tamworth, Fazeley. Charles a bricklayer, Maria, William 7 and a baby.
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 08 February 11 11:53 GMT (UK)
1871
Is this them RG10 3089 120 11
Here they are in Birmingham and all give pob as Birminghma Warwickshire.

Not very consistant with places of birth are they! And they dont half move around!
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: avrilw on Tuesday 22 February 11 10:34 GMT (UK)
Hi
there is a Hagley, a small village between Kidderminster and Birmingham.  Bad timing I know, but I was in Worcester Histoty Centre on Saturday looking for a birth in the parish records!
Avril
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: Sophie30 on Tuesday 22 February 11 15:50 GMT (UK)
I have lived in Worcestershire all my life and I definately do not know of an Agley. I definately think this should be Hagley - possible the person taking the census misheard?
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: giraffe on Tuesday 22 February 11 17:01 GMT (UK)
I seem to remember Hagley as being somewhere near Stourbridge, Worcestershire, of that is any help.
giraffe
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: philheeks on Monday 28 February 11 12:11 GMT (UK)
Hi There

I was born in Worcestershire & have researched names in that county for the last 17 years & can say with certainty that Agley is an error on the cencus as it never existed it should be Hagley - remember that the census's are only coppies of the original so the mistake may have occured then eg someone may have been calling out the names to be coppied & not sounded their H's

All the very best

Phil
Weston-super-Mare
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: davidhardcastle on Monday 28 February 11 13:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all for the Hagley confirmation! Anyone know if the parish records for this area are online, as I'm miles from there?
Cheers
David
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: linell on Monday 28 February 11 13:41 GMT (UK)
I've not seen them on line David, but BMSGH do sell them on Fiche. 

Linell.
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: philheeks on Tuesday 01 March 11 11:40 GMT (UK)
Hi David

Ive made a note to have a look at the Hagley parish registers during one of my visits to the History Centre at Worcester in APR - I shall be staying about 10 miles away from Worcester (the city of my birth) with relatives for a few weeks so wish me luck. If I should be lucky enough to find the Bap of George I will look for his siblings & then the Mar of his parents - I hope that I can do you justice with this look up.  Dont expect to hear any results until about 25th APR & that will be pushing it a bit

All the very best

Phil
Weston-super-Mare
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: davidhardcastle on Wednesday 02 March 11 21:51 GMT (UK)
Phil,
That would be fantastic if you get a chance to look for my ancestors!
Maria was also born around 1817 but in Smethwick, Staffordshire so don't be surprised if you don't find the marriage, as their son Thomas was born in Wednesbury, Staffordshire so they obviousy headed to her roots after the marriage...
Thanks again and good luck!
David
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 05 March 11 12:36 GMT (UK)
Hi David

Wish me luck as I shall only have access to the registers for WOR parishes but you never know what your going to turn up do you

All the very best

Phil
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: philheeks on Saturday 23 April 11 10:55 BST (UK)
Hi David

I hope that this helps you a bit

Hagley parish registers

25 MAY 1817 George s/o William/Mary Hart (bricklayer)

I cant find any siblings for him here

All the very best

Phil

ps the sourse for this look up was the film of Hagley parish registers at Worcester History Centre
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: davidhardcastle on Saturday 23 April 11 11:22 BST (UK)
Phil,
Thanks so much for the effort and the information!
Kind regards
David
Title: Re: George Hart from Agley??? Worcestershire
Post by: linell on Saturday 23 April 11 14:26 BST (UK)
David there's a Marriage for George Hart and Maria Turner 5.2.1837 St Mary's Handsworth, which would fit in with Maria/Mary being born in Smethwick.

Linell.