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Title: lucy gorringe
Post by: Nicola Proctor on Monday 07 February 11 10:50 GMT (UK)
i'm looking for information on my great great great great grandmother lucy gorringe born about 1800 in lewes,sussex,england. when did she die? she married john washer born in 1790 in chailey,sussex,england died in 1864 in new jersey,usa. john and lucy married on 30th october 1819 in kingbury,england. john and lucy had atleast 11 children.

can anyone help.

thanks nicola
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 10:55 GMT (UK)
March qtr 1890

Lewes  Volume 2b page 125

Washer, Lucy


Incidentally, I think she was born in Barcombe about 1803.
Census gives the following:
1881  Age 82  b Barcombe
1871  Age 60  b Barcombe
1861  Age 58  b Barcombe
1851  Age 48  b Barcombe

Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: Nicola Proctor on Monday 07 February 11 11:11 GMT (UK)
when did she die?

i'm looking for information on her 11 children.

thanks nicola
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 11:39 GMT (UK)
March qtr 1890 - sorry - forgot to put Deaths!

Will post again recensus info.
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 11:45 GMT (UK)
Starting at the beginning!

1841 census - reference HO107, Piece 1120, Book/Folio 8/19, Page 30
North Street Lodging House, Lewes

Gorringe, Hannah  F  88
Washer, John  M  45  Ag Lab
Washer, Lucy  F  40
Washer, Hannah  F  20
Washer, Lucy  F  15
Washer, William  M  15
Washer, John  M  14
Washer, Jane  F  12
Washer, James  M  10
Washer, Fanny  F  8
Washer, Mary  F  6
Washer, Richard  4
Washer, Thomas  2              all born in County

And remember that ages are rounded after 15 years of age!
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: Nicola Proctor on Monday 07 February 11 11:52 GMT (UK)
what year where john washer and lucy gorringe children born?

thanks nicola
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
Only ages are written on the census returns.
You have to work out the approximate year of birth yourself!

1851 census, reference HO107, 1643, 304, 20
South Street, South Malling, Lewes

Washer, John  Head  M  50  Carriers Labourer  b Chailey
Washer, Lucy  Wife  F  48  b Barcombe
Washer, Jane  Daughter  F  20  b Newick
Washer, James  Son  M  18  Ag Lab  b Newick
Washer, Fanny  Daughter  F  16  b Chailey
Washer, Richard  Son  M  12  Carter Boy  b Ringmer
Fuller, Lucy  Daughter  Widow  F  26  Pauper Widow of Ag Lab  b Barcombe
Fuller, Thomas  Grandson  M  4  b Lewes
Fuller, Caroline  Granddaughter  F  2  b Lewes



1861 census, reference RG09, 587, 59, 14
Church Yard, Cliffe Square, St Thomas Cliffe, Lewes

Washer, John  Head  M  64  Common Labourer  b Chailey
Washer, Lucy  Wife  F  58  b Barcombe
Washer, James  Son  M  28  Labourer  b Newick
Fuller, Lucy  Daughter  F  36  Laundress  b Barcombe
Fuller, Thomas  Grandson  M  13  Scholar  b Lewes
Fuller, Caroline  Granddaughter  F  10  Scholar  b Lewes
Fuller, Fanny  Granddaughter  F  10 months  b Lewes
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 11:59 GMT (UK)
By the way, I think you will find that John Washer died in Sussex (not USA).

Deaths, September qtr 1864
Lewes registration district, volume 2b, page 96

WASHER, John
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: omega 1 on Monday 07 February 11 13:09 GMT (UK)
Buried 12 Sept 1864,at St Thomas A Becket,Lewes

John Washer aged 71

omega
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: Nicola Proctor on Monday 07 February 11 13:20 GMT (UK)
lucy washer she married james fuller. what happened to james he not in the 1851 and 1861 census.

thanks nicola
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 13:23 GMT (UK)
Lucy (junior) is a widow in 1851.

There is this death:

December qtr 1848  Lewes  Vol 7 page 328
FULLER, James
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: Nicola Proctor on Monday 07 February 11 13:27 GMT (UK)
when was james born? how many children did lucy and james have?

thanks nicola
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 07 February 11 13:46 GMT (UK)
James would have been born before the start of civil registration (July 1837) - you need to get parish registers (I think) to get details of him.

And there are 13 James Fuller's in Sussex in 1841!
So it's probably best to get the marriage certificate, as that will have ages, addresses and father's names.


Marriages March qtr 1846  Lewes  Vol 7, page 515
FULLER, James
WASHER, Lucy

There are 20 births registered in Lewes with a surname FULLER between 1845 and 1851.
It is not possible (using FreeBMD) to determine whose are Lucy & James children.

Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: Nicola Proctor on Monday 07 February 11 13:56 GMT (UK)
i know that james and lucy had atleast 3 children.

thomas fuller
caroline fuller
fanny fuller

thanks nicola
Title: Re: lucy gorringe
Post by: sillgen on Monday 07 February 11 15:56 GMT (UK)
Nicola - I am not sure where you are getting your original information from but I am concerned that it is not accurate.  For example Lucy Gorringe and John Washer married in Barcombe, not "Kingbury". There have been various other questionable events in your other posts.  Are you working back from proven facts or have you taken some of this from another person's published research on the internet?  Sadly, a lot of what is out there can be totally wrong.   Anything on the IGI which is "member submitted" has to be treated with great caution.  You need to check it all by looking at parish registers, census and after 1837 getting certificates to back up the research.  Using the sites suggested on your other posts will help you a lot with the basic facts.  As you seem to have a lot of Sussex families then joining the Sussex Family History Group would give you access to their database - an invaluable resource for thos with Sussex ancestors.
This is a great hobby but a slip early on can have you chasing the wrong family for generations - we have all done that in our time!
Regards
Andrea