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Hi
I am very hopeful that someone may be able to find a few clues to help me in the RC parish records around Brindle.
I have a marriage cert for Richard Bennison and Jane Gerrard on 6 Nov 1846 at St Bedes RC chapel in Clayton Green. Jane was born abt 1818 in Upholland and Richard was born about 1822 in Brindle. I have tracked them easily following the marriage (thanks to census!) but would love to pin down more information re birth and baptisms and I am hoping that the parish records may help.
According to the marriage cert, Richard Bennison's father is also called Richard and Jane's father is, interestingly, given as Henry Fazackerly - occupation given as a Farmer.
Can anyone find evidence of baptisms for either of these please?
Any information or ideas about Henry Fazackerly also gratefully received!
Many thanks in advance for your consideration
Viki
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Does the marriage cert show Jane as a widow or a spinster
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The IGI has this entry
RICHD. BENNISON Christening: 04 AUG 1822 Brindle, Lancashire
Father: RICHD. BENNISON Mother: JANE
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
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1841 census for Brindle
Richard Bennison 35
Jane 55
Henry 25
Lawrence 20
Ellen 20
Richard 15
William 15
HO107 Piece 525/1 Folio 33 Page 5
Ages from 16yrs upwards were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs in 1841 so Richard & William were not necessarily twins
EDIT - per IGI William was christened in 1824
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Hi
Thanks for this. Yes, this is the right family. The marriage cert shows Jane as a spinster so I am guessing she was illegitimate and yet named her real father on the marriage certificate. Do you think that would make sense?
Thanks for the IGI reference. I had come across this also - but I was a bit confused. I thought that there were no RC records on the IGI. Do you know if this is true or not??
I am getting very mixed up. Would it be possible to be baptised in a Cof E church yet married in RC faith?
Viki
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I thought that there were no RC records on the IGI. Do you know if this is true or not?
There are RC records on the IGI - there just aren't as many of them as C of E records
It was left to each Dioscesan Bishop to give or refuse access to the records by the Mormon Church. Many refused
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Thanks for that clarification.
That certainly helps to make a bit more sense then.
Viki
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These are slightly earlier than you want, but may be useful:
Catholic Record Society Volume 23
(Volume 4 of Lancashire Records) – Brindle baptisms 1721 -1816, marriages 1722 – 1834, Burials 1722 – 1840. Samlesbury Bapt. 1753 – 1793, Marriages 1754 – 1810, 1830 – 1837, Burials 1829 – 1835.
http://www.archive.org/details/lancashireregist23cath
Click on the book on the left hand side. The surname index is near the back. The pages turn as you click on them or click on the page edges of the book. The page index is on n9 at the front of the book.
Mo
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Wow Thanks - I'll go and look right now
Viki
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The St Bede's RC Clayton Green registers only begin in 1824 and I think Richard's baptism was at St James Brindle as already suggested. So he was probably C of E. The Gerrards were a Catholic family as far as I have discovered.
However following their marriage at St Bede's I have found the following in the registers.
9th January 1851 St Bede's Baptisms
John Benison son of Richard & Jane bapt. 12th January. Godparents Edward & Ellen Heys.
Death & Burial Register
Jane Benison aged 51 years died 11th March 1869 in Chorley and buried 15th at St Bede's in the old graveyard Southern section Plot No. F 10.
Richard Bennison aged 77 years died 22nd January 1900 in Chorley and buried 25th at St Bede's in the same grave.
Hannah Bennison aged 11 months died 9th December 1899 in Chorley and buried 13th in the above grave.
Peter Bennison aged 6 years died 30th October 1891 in Chorley and buried at St Bede's. No other details.
The Inscription on the gravestone reads as follows:-
Of your charity pray for the soul of John son of Richard and Jane Bennison who died 8th June 1858 aged 7 years. Also of Jane wife of Richard Bennison who died 11th March 1869 aged 51 years.
Hope this helps.
paslwigr
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Paslwigr
Thank you so much for looking this up for me. This is certainly the right family and you have managed to find a few extra siblings for my GGgrandfather, John Richard Bennison, that I knew nothing about before as they sadly never got to figure on a census.
Most importantly however, you have managed to answer a riddle that I had not even realised was bothering me. Your identification of the death of Jane, aged 51 in 1869, was a real shock. I thought I had tracked Richard down living with his wife Jane for at least 20 years following this! On going back to look closely at the records to make sense of what you found - I realised my error.
Jane clearly had died between the 1861 and 1871 census. Trouble was that Richard had almost seamlessly married another Jane - and I simply had not realised.
It now makes sense and is quite obvious when I look back. The ages are different etc - only I never noticed it before - just assumed it was an error or a bit of vanity suddenly at work.....
Anyhow - many many thanks for helping me out before I went any further down a wrong track.
Thanks a million to everyone who has helped with this query.
Viki