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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Olaf on Saturday 05 February 11 19:59 GMT (UK)
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My father Thomas Victor RAE was born in Scotland 21st October 1910 and arrived in Australia (Victoria) in1913 with his father and mother. Edward Rae (1888-1965) and Janet McQueen Keith 1890-1972). He married Edna Hicks in February 1932 and divorced on 17th December 1936. He married Winifred Martha James 26th June 1937 at Maroubra Junction. He joined the Army on 3rd November 1939 and was overseas 1145 days and home for 401 days. He was in the 2/1 Australian Field Regiment, gunner NX3375. I am trying to trace any children of the above marriages. Before Dad died there was talk of children. I have written over 200 letters to "Rae's" both in NSW and Victoria without success. Any help would be appreciated. Kindest Regards OLAF.
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Welcome to Rootschat but this isn't a forum for tracing living relatives and from the marriage dates it's quite likely that any children might still be alive.
There are some links to suggestions for tracing living people in the help pages and I'll move this thread to the Australia board for more general advice. If anyone can provide you with details of living family members they'll have to do so via PM (personal message)- each person needs to have at least 3 posts to use this.
www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php#living
www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
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www.ryersonindex.org
has an entry for a Thomas Victor RAE, deceased 1988.
You can request a look-up of the entry from the website, it should give you clues to further family.
The entry is from a Queensland newspaper "Fraser Coast Chronicle".
Leanne
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Hi Olaf,
A Big Welcome to RootsChat ;D
Please see
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,368728.msg2632620.html#msg2632620
Be sure to reply here a couple of times so that if anyone is able to help with living persons they can PM you.
All the best in your hunt.
Cheers Kris :)
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Marriage
23178/1938
WHOLOHAN Daniel Henry Thomas
RAE Edna
District Parramatta
http://www.ryersonindex.org/
WHOLOHAN Daniel Henry Thomas
Death notice 7 Dec 1974
65 years at Mulgoa
Published in the Sydney Morning Herald 10 Dec 1974
The death notice may mention step children, if any.
Decree nisi 21 May 1936
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bp6/
And as you have mentioned Decree absolute 17 Dec 1936
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bp7/
The file would detail any children of the marriage. This link may help you
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-77
Cheers :)
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Thank you for the info, I will try the death certificate.
Kindest regards Olaf
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Hi Olaf,
No luck for you on the Death Notice for Daniel WHOLOHAN.
WHOLOHAN Daniel Henry Thomas
Death notice 7 Dec 1974
65 years at Mulgoa
Published in the Sydney Morning Herald 10 Dec 1974
Loved son of the late Cornelius and Matilda Wholohan.
Loved brother of Michael (dec), John (dec), Mary (dec), Kate (dec), Patrick, Con (dec), Tilly, Lucy and Marjorie (dec).
Aged 65 years.
Debbie
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Hi there,
Your Dad's WWII records are not yet available online, but in case you are not aware, these are very often quite lengthy and informative files .... for example, my late father's WWII service records run to around 40 pages, and include correspondence between his parents and the army, his siblings and the army, etc .... Letters from my Dad written years after the War, but to do with Veteran's Affairs are on his files ... NO telling what could be on your Dad's files ... remember any correspondence will have his then address on it and that helps RChatters following up clues for you!
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx .... search as a guest and put your Dad's name in, and just follow the prompts .... to commence the process towards digitising his records (costs around $Au 20 or less, takes up to 3 months) .....
Cheers, JM
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Thank you Leanne,
The info you have on Dad was correct. Unfortunately there was no other children on the death certificate except my two brothers. The search goes on. Kindest Regards Olaf
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Hello Debbie,
Thank you for your efforts. I will try and find out more about the surname Wholohan. Kindest Regards Olaf
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Hello JM.
I do have the info from the war department on my Dad and you are right there is some real good info in there. I found the address my Dad was at before he left for the war, his wife's name etc. Thanks for your reply. Kindest Regards Olaf
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Olaf,
The earliest NSW Directory record I can see for Wholohan is.
1875 PO Directory.
CAMPBELLTOWM.
Wholohan John, labourer, main St.
The Earliest NSW Government Gazette entry was 1834 where a Cornelius Wholohan a farm labourer of Illawarra, was on a list of assignments for male convicts.
Gerry
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Hi Gerry,
I was just about to launch into a search for the name Wholohan, you have saved me some time as I seem to be answering all of this information from so many people wishing to help, so thank you and if you find anything else on the name Wholohan I would love to hear from you.
Kindest Regards Olaf
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Hi Oalf,
Edna RAE's husband ...
Daniel Henry Thomas WHOLOHAN http://galileo.spaceports.com/~goodsell/allfamily/b158.htm#P7771
He was born on 7 May 1909 he married 1938 at Parramatta NSW and died 7 December 1974 at Penrith NSW (Mulgoa is a rural community in the Penrith District) and is buried in Penrith General Cemetery, Cornelius Joseph WHOLOHAN and Mary Matilda COVENY were his parents.
Penrith General Cemetery is on Cox Ave, Kingswood
http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/index.asp?id=2630
Cornelius Joseph WHOLOHAN born 18 Aug 1870 Penrith, died on 17 Aug 1947 buried at Penrith General Cemetery. Patrick WHOLOHAN and Catherine Mary CROSS. were his parents.
Mary Matilda COVENY married Cornelius Joseph WHOLOHAN on 17 Feb 1895 at Penrith.
Children were: Michael, John, Mary, Catherine Maud, Patrick James, Cornelius Joseph, Matilda, Daniel Henry Thomas , Lucy Francis Sophia, Majorie Alice, Majorie Jean.
NSW BDM online index : http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm
Penrith City Council family history pages http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/index.asp?id=1981
NSW State Records : http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx
Cheers, JM
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I was so excited to stumble across this. My Fathers biological Father was Victor Thomas Rae and my Grandmothers name was Winifred Martha James. When I was a teenager my grandmother, at lunch, randomly told me that she was previously married to another man and that he was my father and my uncle(Gordon's) real father. My father, Keith, has spoken very little about his father because I think it is a very sensitive subject for him and I don't like to upset him so I have occasionally browsed online, finding the marriage certificate years ago. My dad, Keith * was born in * and is fit and well living in the Central Coast NSW. His brother (also Victor Thomas Rae's son)is younger and lives in Western Australia.
*details of living person removed in accordance with Rootschat policy
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Hello Equus,
Thank you for contacting me, I look forward to hearing from you. I have replied giving you info on contact details. Look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kindest Regards
Olaf
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Hi, please excuse me I am not very familiar with this site..I'm not sure where the contact details are you mentioned..
warm regards
:)
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Hello Equus,
Forward info through the contact point of (*) Hope to hear from you soon.
Kindest Regards
Olaf
(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy,
to avoid spamming and other abuses.
Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.
New members must make at least three postings before being allowed to use the PM facility.
See Help-Page: http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
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Equus, you need to make another posting before you will have access to the Private Message system on Rootschat. Doesn't have ot be much - just another posting. Then you and Olaf will be able to contact each other. Judith
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Hello EQUUS,
Thank you for contacting me and giving me the address for your Dad, I would like to also thank rootschat for assisting me in finding my long lost brothers I have been looking for over twenty years. Without this medium I would be still searching.
Kindest Regards
Olaf
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So good to hear that it's worked out well. Judith
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Hi i'm not sure if this is any assistance to you however I am a descendent of the Wholohans My Grandfather was William Morris son of William Morris & Catherine Maud Wholohan, daughter of Catherine Mary Cross & Patrick Wholohan, son of Bridget Malloy & Corneilius Joseph Wholohan, son of James Wholohan & Julia Dwyer. If there is any info I can help you with let me know and perhaps you can do the same for me :)
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Hello Lizbet26
I would be very interested in what info you have and would only be too happy to share what I have.
Kindest Regards
Olaf
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So good to hear that it's worked out well. Judith
Hi i'm not sure if this is any assistance to you however I am a descendent of the Wholohans My Grandfather was William Morris son of William Morris & Catherine Maud Wholohan, daughter of Catherine Mary Cross & Patrick Wholohan, son of Bridget Malloy & Corneilius Joseph Wholohan, son of James Wholohan & Julia Dwyer. If there is any info I can help you with let me know and perhaps you can do the same for me :)
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Hi Ross,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
I am very sorry but we have been unable to notify Olaf of your new reply as his emails are not working :'( had a google but not been able to locate him.
Lets hope he comes across your reply when he is next searching for this side of the family.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hello Ross
Thank you for your post, due to a stuff up from Telstra I have lost my old email address. I have tried to update my profile but it keeps kicking me out asking for the right Email address so I will put it here and you may contact me and it may be picked up by Roots Chat.
Kindest Regards
Olaf
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hi olaf i have a bit of information on the wholohans my ggg grandfather patrick wholohan who married catherine mary cross i have been to there grave so i might be able to help you in some way kind regards ross
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Hi Olaf,
Thanks for details of your new email address, I have now changed your profile so you should now start receiving notifications of new replies again.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Wholohan is probably a version of the West Cork branch of the O'hUallachains. My last name is Wholihan, and I saw it spelled about 10 different ways in Ireland - among the same siblings.
Some Cork Wholihans and Wholohans were "transported" to Australia.
My branch is from Schull. I've seen the name in Bantry and Durrus quite a bit.