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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: nwr on Saturday 05 February 11 18:19 GMT (UK)
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hi people
I can remeber flairs but that was in the 1970s this one seem earlier and before anybody says anything i cant remeber them this old. but can any one help me date this one nwr
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They look like a version of Oxford Bags which came onto the market about 1925 and were popular through the 1930's and were still being worn up to early 1950's apparently. I've surfed looking for a variety which looks exactly like yours but online pictures are few.
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This is an early-mid 1880s photograph and back, and I would suggest prior to 1888 due to the absence of a separate watch chain hole in the waistcoat.
Cheers,
China
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Perhaps if you check for the photographer's name in Dumfries directories it will help you narrow it down to the period when they were in business.
They look more like bell bottoms to me than flares, which I believe were worn by sailors. He doesn't look like a sailor though! ;)
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Not sure if this is going to help or not - but this site has a piece about a Thomas A Morrison who changed his name to Moryson in his mid 20s. He was born in 1856 and was a photographer in Dumfries until 1901 (according to the site).
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/PP_I/pp_morrison_thomas.htm
So if thall that info was correct it suggests he was operating as a Photographer in Dumfries with the name Moryson from some time after 1876 until about 1901... so a date of 1880s would fit.
...if there info is right that is
Milly ;D
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No... If you read the whole page, you'll find this:
"Just to let you know that Thomas AA Morrison of Edinburgh was not the same Thomas A Moryson of Dumfries, previously Belfast."
It's a little farther down :)
Hi Roobarb...I did find quite a bit of information on Moryson, and he was in his studio for at least 25 years, and another address for some time more.....but as the card doesn't give an address we're none the wiser :P
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If you lighten the bottoms of the trousers up you can see the line of the cloth going down the shin area. It isn't really a bellbottom or flare shape, it's just the way he's standing. Flared trousers were not a civilian fashion at any time during the Victorian age.
Cheers,
China
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Not sure about that... :)
I read it that there were two photographers...one was Thomas A Morrison who became Moryson of Dumfries, and the other was Thomas AA Morrison of Edinburgh (who was always known as Morrison. (ie two different people)
Milly ;D
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Does it really matter?
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bell bottoms
1878
sylvia
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On a sailor?
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Hi
Looks like China has a little knowledge in this area. I am no expert but reference books on dating your Family Photos indicate that your photo is between 1870's to 1880's. The jacket he wears is single brested with narrow lepals (1870's -1880's) The shoulder line slopes and the length of the jacket indicates 1870-early 1880's The coat reached the bottom of the trouser seat. With a bound edge and the kerchief in the pocket also 1870's -1880. Up until 1880 men trousers were straight, baggy and shapeless after 1880 men trousers became narrow in the leg with a front seam. I agree that it is also the way he is standing making the Flare look. The tie and the high buttoned waistcoat also fit this period. Doing a google I see Moryson took over the James Rae photography shop in Dumfries in 1868 when James Rae had achange of vocation. Have you done a comparison of family members to pinpoint who the phot is off?
Hope this helps
Mezza
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Hi Mezza, interesting post.
Considering the photos that mwr has posted recently, I don't believe he knows who they are of, which is why he is requesting dating.
But he can speak for himself :D
Cheers,
China
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http://www.album1900.com/uk/0004_uk1870s/0004_uk1870s.php
the photo is on this site and it is a 4 year old boy
also try
google search images for
moryson portraits dumfries
sylvia
sylvia
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http://www.album1900.com/uk/0004_uk1870s/0004_uk1870s.php
the photo is on this site and it is a 4 year old boy
sylvia
Nice find Sylvia, he is wearing a sailor suit though, so China's point still stands ;)
That's a nice web page though, I've not seen it before - I'll have a good look around it!
Cheers
Prue
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also try
google search images for
moryson portraits dumfries
sylvia
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the photo i am refering to is second last,is it really a sailor suit
sylvia
oops mistook site
sylvia
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For my tuppenceworth, it looks to me as if a piece of differently coloured material has been let in to the bottom of the trouser leg, perhaps to accommodate a caliper; this might also explain his not putting weight on that limb.
Hibee