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Hi Folks,
This time I am looking for Cursham(s), specifically, a George Cursham b. 1795 in Annesley/chr. 02 Jan. 1796/d. 23 Sept. 1871. The freebmd shows that his death was registered St. George Hanover Square, London. George Cursham was the son of Rev T. Cursham of Sutton-in-Ashfield - his mother was Ann Leeson. He attended Repton School in 1808 and graduated M.D. from London and Paris, was elected F.R.C.P. in 1844, and became Physician to the Hospital for Consumption and the the Asylum for Female Orphans.
There is much about Dr. George Cursham on the internet but nothing about whom he married. I am asking for help in finding his marriage. The IGI shows one entry for a George Cursham to Ann Heathcote in 1817, however, I am reluctant to acccept this at face value.
I am also trying to connect this George Cursham as father of William G. Cursham who md. Harriett Nicholson. Their marriage is registered in Liverpool in 1846. The children of this couple were born in various towns in Nottinghamshire.
I would be very grateful for any help.
Dorothy
Ottawa
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Hi
I think you may get a better result on the Yorkshire board for George's marriage as this is where it allegedly took place. Someone may be able to find it if you give the IGI details.
The only way to be certain of William's father is to buy his marriage certificate.
If you can supply names, dates and places of the childrens' births in Notts maybe someone on this board can assist with that.
NC.
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Have you considered ?
1841 Census (HO107 735 5/39 25) - The original is not easy to read and has been transcribed as
George Curshaw, 45, Physician, NOT born in County
Ann Curshaw, 45, NOT born in County
+ 3 servants
Address - Saville Row, St James', Westminster, Middlesex
The Manchester Times and Gazette, April 19th, 1845
ADVERTISEMENT - National Mercantile Life Assurance Society
Directors
George Cursham, M.D, Saville Row
The 1841 George and Ann above a possibility for your George (and Ann?)
regards
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Hello,
Yes, I have considered the 1841 census - quite some time ago and hadn't looked at it recently. I also have George on the 1871 census, again in Westminster. He is still living in Westminster. this time in Victoria St. and he is a widower with two servants. Nothing for him on either the 1851 or 1861 censuses, however.
Thank you so much for replying to my email.
Dorothy
Have you considered ?
1841 Census (HO107 735 5/39 25) - The original is not easy to read and has been transcribed as
George Curshaw, 45, Physician, NOT born in County
Ann Curshaw, 45, NOT born in County
+ 3 servants
Address - Saville Row, St James', Westminster, Middlesex
The Manchester Times and Gazette, April 19th, 1845
ADVERTISEMENT - National Mercantile Life Assurance Society
Directors
George Cursham, M.D, Saville Row
The 1841 George and Ann above a possibility for your George (and Ann?)
regards
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Hi NC,
You are quite right. I will give it a try in Yorkshire.
Thank you very much.
Dorothy
Hi
I think you may get a better result on the Yorkshire board for George's marriage as this is where it allegedly took place. Someone may be able to find it if you give the IGI details.
The only way to be certain of William's father is to buy his marriage certificate.
If you can supply names, dates and places of the childrens' births in Notts maybe someone on this board can assist with that.
NC.
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The Times, Tuesday, April 19th, 1842
ADVERTISEMENT
In addition to the above distinguished patronage* to the newly invented Spectacle Lenses and Invisible Voice Conductor the undermentioned medical gentlemen among many others have given their unqualified approval
Jame Blundell M.D, 1 Gt George St, ..........., George Cursham, M.D, 5 Saville Row,....etc, etc
The Messrs S and B Solomons' Invisible Voice Conductor, Sound Magnifiers, is not perceptible: it pours the conversation into the ears to such an extent that in severe cases deafness cannot be observed
(* the "above" is a list of Royalty and Nobility)
This is just a 12mth after the '41 Census.. There are entries for George before 1841 re The Mercantile Co in London but doesn't give his address.
Am trying to sort out the "various" Revs - Thomas Leeson Cursham, Mansfield; Thomas Cursham, Bakewell and Thomas Cursham, Sutton in Ashfield (are the last 2 the same individual?). Have found
The Derby Mercury, Wednesday, March 16th, 1831
Deaths
On the 7th instant at Morton, Near Southwell, Mr Charles Cursham, in the 45th year of his age, youngest brother of the late Rev Thomas Cursham of Sutton in Ashfield and Uncle to the Rev Dr Cursham, Vicar of Mansfield.
regards
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The 1851 Census has George and Ann (transcribed as Aushuther!) at 5 Saville Row
see HO107 1485 361 19
regards
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Isn't that a weird one - Aushuther..!
Many thanks for that.
Regards,
Dorothy
The 1851 Census has George and Ann (transcribed as Aushuther!) at 5 Saville Row
see HO107 1485 361 19
regards
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Re your final point about linking William (married Harriet in Liverpool) to George?
On the 1851 Census William is a Solicitor, age 27, born Nottingham.
1841 Census (HO107 871 2/5 5)
Transcribed as "Crusham" but probably Cursham. Includes a William (Junior?), age 17, no occupation - father William, age 50, Solicitor. All born outside County (Notts)
1851 Census (HO107 2128 570 4)
Transcribed as "Curshaw" but probably Cursham. Looks like the same family - but minus William Junior. This time they are all born Notts!!
May be worth checking out
regards
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Hello..... :)
Here is some information that might help......
A potted piece on the Cursham family from a book on The History of Sutton in Ashfield by G.G. Bonser, published 1949
The Reverend THOMAS CURSHAM appears in Sutton in Ashfield registers in 1775 (1776 - 1780 signs himself Curate). He then removed to Ashover, and on 8th July 1784 he married ANN LEESON by license at Skegby and settled in Sutton where he kept a school.
In 1795 he was appointed incumbent at Annesley.
Thomas Cursham died 16th January 1805 and lies buried in Skegby churchyard immediately left of the entrance gate.
His Widow survived him many years dying at Eastwood 27th January 1843.
The Leeson's lived in an ancient farmhouse in Skegby at a bend in the road called the Great Way in 1232, leading to Newbound's Mill Bridge - Ann Leeson (Mrs Cursham's mother) dying there 21t January 1802, aged 78.
The eldest son of Thomas and Ann, named THOMAS LEESON Cursham was born abt 1785, but where baptised does not appear.
Second son of Thomas and Ann was WILLIAM baptised at Sutton 25th Oct 1788, who became an attorney and practised in Nottingham.
Third son was JOHN who entered the Army and attained the rank of Captain and was killed in the first Burmese War.
Fourth son was baptised 30th Dec 1792 and named GEORGE who became a Doctor of medicine and was honorary physician to the Brompton Hospital for Consumptives.
Fifth child was named MARY ANN and developed remarkable poetic gifts, when her father was Vicar at Annesley she became close friends with Mary Ann Chaworth and the friendship led to a meeting with Lord Byron who expressed his appreciation of Miss Cursham's work.
The Vicar of Mansfield (Dr T.L. Cursham) married 27th Dec 1810 to Sabina Stretton at Lenton, they had three sons; William Shelton Cursham took Holy Orders and was curate to his father who was Vicar of Blackwell, Derbyshire 1833.
Second son was Curzon who married and died leaving a daughter who married a Tollemache.
Third son was Arthur and a well known solicitor in Mansfield..
The Revd Willliam Cursham had two daughters, the elder on became Mrs Vaughn Radford, of Carnfield Hall, Derbyshire and died at Kirkby Old Hall in 1928.
The Cursham family connection disappeared soon after the death of Rev Thomas Cursham in 1805
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These are from the Nottinghamshire FHS indexes which should help confirm some of the dates.
MARRIAGE at Skegby
THOMAS CURSHAM & ANN LEESON - 8th July 1784
MARRIAGE at Lenton
THOMAS CURSHAM & SABINA STRETTON - 27th Dec 1810
Baptisms = parents Thomas & Ann CURSHAM
WILLIAM - 25th Oct 1788 - at Sutton in Ashfield
ELIZABETH - 27th Dec 1790 - at Sutton in Ashfield
GEORGE - 30th Dec 1792 - at Sutton in Ashfield
MARY ANN - born 20th June 1794, bpt 22nd June 1790 - at Annesley - notes = Minister of this Parish
GEORGE - born 2nd Jan 1796 - bpt 2nd Jan 1796 - at Annesley - notes = Minister of this Parish
ALFRED - 12th Feb 1800- at Annesley
ALFRED - 1st April 1801 - at Annesley - notes = Rev Thomas 2nd of that name.
BAPTISMS - parents William & Mary Cursham
FRANCIS - 10th Aug 1822 at Nottingham St Nicholas - fathers profession Attorney - abode Castle Gate
WILLIAM GEORGE - 1st Sept 1823 at Nottingham St Nicholas - fathers profession Attorney - abode Castle Gate
MARY ELLEN - 26th Nov 1825 at Nottingham St Peter - fathers profession Solicitor - - abode Middle pavement
JOHN - 30th June 1827 at Nottingham St Mary - fathers profession Solicitor - - abode Carlton St
LOUISA - 26th Jan 1830 at Nottingham St Mary - abode Carlton St
WALTER CHARLES - 22nd Nov 1832 at Nottingham St Peter - fathers profession Solicitor - abode Nottingham Park
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A bit more.....
WILLLIAM CURSHAM born 1788 in Sutton in Ashfield (parents Thomas & Ann) married MARY LAMBERT, by License at St Pancras Parish Chapel, London - 12th October 1821
Also... there is a report in one of the Google books - Monthly magazine and British register, Volume 44 - year 1817
A mention of the marriage = Mr. George Cursham, of Mansfield, to Miss Heathcote, of Sheffield
Baptisms = parents WILLIAM GEORGE & HARRIETTE/HARRIETT/HARRIETTA CURSHAM - fathers profession Solicitor
MARY LOUISA - 14th June 1848 at Sneinton St Stephen - abode Nointone? Place
FRANCIS CLIFTON - 22nd Feb 1850 - Nottingham Holy Trinity - abode Wheeler gate
HARRIETTE FRANCES - 12th Aug 1851 - Nottingham Holy Trinity - abode Wheeler gate
ARTHUR WILLIAM - 10th April 1853 - Nottingham Holy Trinity - abode Wheeler gate
WILLIAM GEORGE - 14th July 1854 at Wilford
KATHERINE ANN - 16th Sept 1855 at Wilford
ESTHER HARRIET - 18th Jan 1857 at Wilford
CHARLES LAMBERT - 28th Nov 1858 at Wilford
HENRY ALFRED - 12th Jan 1860 at Wilford
MABEL ELIZABETH - 3rd March 1861 at Wilford
WILLIAM - 29th April 1862 at Wilford
JESSIE ELIZA - 17th Aug 1863 at Wilford
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Here are a couple more baptisms to add weight to the Ann Heathcote/Heathcote marriage.....
Baptisms - at Mansfield St Peter - parents George & Anne Cursham
JOHN ROOTH CURSHAM - 1st May 1818 - fathers profession Mercer - abode Stockwell Gate
THOMAS HEATHCOAT CURSHAM - 20th July 1820 - fathers profession Gentleman - abode = visit from London
HENRY CURSHAM - 17th July 1822 - fathers profession Gentleman - abode Queen St.
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To Dizziefish:
I can't thank you enough for all the information you sent. I am overwhelmed! At last, I now have the connection of William George Cursham b. 1823 to William Cursham b. 1788 to the Rev. Thomas Cursham, Vicar of Sutton-in-Ashfield. I had no information on William b. in 1788 and so was unable to go any further. I was also missing Mary Ann b. 1794 and wondered who she was as I continued to find her name on the internet. She was an author and poet and of course, the daughter of the old Vicar of Sutton-in-Ashfield.
The Bromely Library Site gives a fair bit of information on the Cursham family, mentioning the old Vicar, Thomas, George, William George, Henry Alfred Cursham and his descendants (my connection), *Capt. John Cursham (whom I now believe is the brother of William George). Thomas Leeson Cursham and W.H. Cursham. I don't know where the latter fits in, however.
*A William Cursham donated a book on "A Theological Manuscript in the Burmese Language from the Collection of the late Captain Cursham".
I was also missing a couple of children who were born to Henry Alfred and Harriett Cursham...you were kind enough to include these.
Once again, thank you so much for all your help (including all the typing!) I think your "Dizziefish" name lends very well to genealogy.
Best regards,
Dorothy
Ottawa
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Well this is about 7 years too late but just wondering if Dorothy is still around as I think I may be able to answer her question about who married George Cursham MD. I don't know about the marriage to an Ann Heathcote in 1817, he may have been married previously but on the marriage I have he said he was a bachelor.
On 30 May 1822 at St Edward the Confessor's Church in Leek, Staffordshire a George CURSHAM bachelor of St Peter's parish in Nottingham married Ann PHILLIPS spinster of Leek, by licence. The officiating minister was Thomas L Cursham.
The licence was a bit more enlightening - they were both aged 21 years & upwards, George was a surgeon and Thomas L Cursham was the Vicar of Mansfield in Nottinghamshire.
Better still Ann had a brother Samuel Phillips Esquire of Leek who left a will on the 14 Apr 1847 which mentioned his sister Ann Cursham and his brother in law George Cursham of Saville Row, London, Doctor of Medicine.
I have a bit more information on the Phillips family if you haven't already found the above by now. At the very least this might help someone else in the future who might be just as stumped as I was when looking for them in the census, I knew it was going to be an uphill battle with the spelling but I never would have thought of 'Aushuther'!
Cheers....Dawn
Hi Folks,
This time I am looking for Cursham(s), specifically, a George Cursham b. 1795 in Annesley/chr. 02 Jan. 1796/d. 23 Sept. 1871. The freebmd shows that his death was registered St. George Hanover Square, London. George Cursham was the son of Rev T. Cursham of Sutton-in-Ashfield - his mother was Ann Leeson. He attended Repton School in 1808 and graduated M.D. from London and Paris, was elected F.R.C.P. in 1844, and became Physician to the Hospital for Consumption and the the Asylum for Female Orphans.
There is much about Dr. George Cursham on the internet but nothing about whom he married. I am asking for help in finding his marriage. The IGI shows one entry for a George Cursham to Ann Heathcote in 1817, however, I am reluctant to acccept this at face value.
I am also trying to connect this George Cursham as father of William G. Cursham who md. Harriett Nicholson. Their marriage is registered in Liverpool in 1846. The children of this couple were born in various towns in Nottinghamshire.
I would be very grateful for any help.
Dorothy
Ottawa
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Eldest son Thomas Leeson Cursham was baptised at Ashover on 7 Jul 1785, son of Rev'd Thomas & wife Ann.
Fourth son George must be the physician who married Ann Phillips in my previous message.
The eldest son of Thomas and Ann, named THOMAS LEESON Cursham was born abt 1785, but where baptised does not appear.
Second son of Thomas and Ann was WILLIAM baptised at Sutton 25th Oct 1788, who became an attorney and practised in Nottingham.
Third son was JOHN who entered the Army and attained the rank of Captain and was killed in the first Burmese War.
Fourth son was baptised 30th Dec 1792 and named GEORGE who became a Doctor of medicine and was honorary physician to the Brompton Hospital for Consumptives.
Fifth child was named MARY ANN and developed remarkable poetic gifts, when her father was Vicar at Annesley she became close friends with Mary Ann Chaworth and the friendship led to a meeting with Lord Byron who expressed his appreciation of Miss Cursham's work.
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This is certainly "a blast from the past" and thank's for the update.
The 1822 marriage and licence can be viewed on FindMyPast and there is a marriage notice in the "hatch, match and despatch" column of the Staffordshire Advertiser, 1 Jun 1822.
regards