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Hi to all
I am trying to find out when my grandmothers brother Morris Fitzgerald died and so far have not been able to find a Death Certificate - I have searched Australian BDM and there is nothing listed. He was mentioned in a letter from my grandmother to my grandfather in March 1905 and when Morris's mother died in December 1906 his name is not on the Death Certificate but there is a deceased male - I am assuming he died between March 1905 and December 1906. i have been to WA Genealogy Society and they cannot find anything. If anyone can come up with any suggestions I would appreciate it. He had been working in Denmark in the sawmill industry and moved on to Dardanup in late March 1905 - I would say to work in the same industry.
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks
Mary
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Can you give some birth details for Morris please - when, where, and names of parents.
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Hi Wivenhoe
Morris Fitzgerald was born on 4t June 1883 parents Richard Fitzgerald and ellen Harty. they lived in South Australia for several years and then moved to Victoria and ended up in Western Australia (Denmark). I can place him there in March 1905 but on his mothers Death Certificate at the end of December 1906 he is not mentioned but there is listed 1 deceased male and 1 female. We know who the female is and think the male has to be Morris.
Hope you can help as I have looked everywhere and cannot find anything.
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Hi Mary,
Did either Richard or Ellen Fitzgerald have a Will?
I’ve checked “Australia’s Army War Dead 1885-1972” - no Morris Fitzgerald’s mentioned. There was a Morris James Fitzgerald, age 36, joined Australian Imperial Forces in 1916, he was born near Black Rock in South Australia, however he states that his Father was a Thomas Fitzgerald of Petersbury.
Link: http://www.naa.gov.au/
Your Morris certainly did not get a mention in his brothers death notice.
The West Australian - Monday 31 March 1924, page 1.
Deaths:
Fitzgerald, On March 29, 1924, Richard third son of the late Ellen and Richard Fitzgerald, formerly of South Australia and Melbourne; brother of Michael (Wuraming), Garrett (Victoria Park), Francis (Allanson), Mrs. Laughnan (Wuraming), Mrs. Mitchell (Melbourne), Mrs Towers (Carlisle). Adelaide and Melbourne papers please copy.
Link: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Did Morris have a middle name?
The female Fitzgerald that passed away - Is she sharing a grave with any other family members?
Sorry, more questions than answers I'm afraid.
Cheers,
Janet.
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Information on death certs is only as good as the knowledge of the informant. According the their SA marriage registration Ellen was born c1842 however her burial record notes she was born c1846.
Have you looked at Richard's 1918 death certificate? I assume he is the Richard David buried with Ellen at Karrakatta? Is Morris mentioned as issue?
There are three chatters' researching this family and if I recall correctly there was an illegitimate birth in Vic in 1893 to ?Ellen FITZGERALD and the son had later claimed Richard and Ellen as parents on his marriage cert. If you use the Search facility and search using Harty and the Australian board it will bring up the thread/s.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi to Janet and Cando
First of all I believe Morris may have died between 1905 and December 1906 as he was not mentioned on Ellen's Death Certificate in 1906. When Richard died in 1918 he was not mentioned on that either but on both ellen and richards Death Certificate it shows 1 deceased male, 1 deceased female. I know the deceased female was annie who died in Clifton Hills victoria in 1895 but the only deceased male I can think of is Morris. My grandmother used to talk of her brothers and sisters all the time and I never heard of any other male except the ones we have found onthe Death Certificates. As we have Morris's Birth Certificate we know he existed and he would have to be dead by now as he was born in 1883 but so far I cannot find a Death Certificate - also there is no middle name showing on the Birth Certificate. I do not have Richard (Jnrs) Death Certificate so do not know if he was listed on that or not.
I do not know if Ellen or Richard had a Will and as far as I know Annie does not share a grave with anybody as she was the first in the family to die and after that the rest of the family (with the exception of ellen) came to Western Australia.
cheers
Mary
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He was mentioned in a letter from my grandmother to my grandfather in March 1905
May I ask in what context....had she seen him or was it simply a reference to him moving to another district?
The 1906 Australian Electoral Roll shows the FITZGERALD family at Wellington Mill with Maurice [not Morris] as a Mill hand. Was Richard Snr a butcher?
Pity Ellen's in memoriam notices didn't name the family - perhaps you can work them out from their initials.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bpc/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bpd/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bpe/
I can't find a death notice for Richard FITZGERALD in 1918.
Cando
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Hi Cando
In the letter Nora (my grandmother) is asking her husband to send her some money so she can catch the train from Albany as Gary (brother) is leaving to go to yarloop and Michael and Morris (brothers) are going to Dardanup and therefore she would be left in Denmark on her own. Apparently the mill was closing and as they were all mill hands they had to move on.
As far as I know Richard Senior was not a butcher - I think he was described as a labourer.
We have a Death Certificate for Richard who died on May 18 1918 and on that Morris is not mentioned - all the other brothers are but there is mention of 1 deceased male and as he was not mentioned on Ellen's Death Certificate either in 1906 but there is 1 deceased male mentioned that is why I believe he died sometime in 1906 and as ellen died 29 December 1906 it could have been towards the end of 1906.
Also I have not seen the memoriums for Ellen.
Thanks heaps
Mary
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Hi Cando
Have just followed your links to the West australian and it is hard to try and sort out from the initials as there would probably be grandchildren as well as children in the initials - I'm trying to go thru it now. Thanks for your assistance as I am not too clued up on how to get onto these sights.
Cheers
Mary
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Possibly your family as well
Death of Garrett Thomas FITZGERALD
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bpi/
Death of Michael FITZGERALD brother of the late Garrett
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bph/
Scorpio could you list the names of the children to Richard FITZGERALD and Ellen HARTY...and then perhaps we could help you.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando
Ellen and richards children are as follows
Garret, Michael, Hannah (Nora), Ellen, Richard, Annie, Catherine, Morris and of course Francis (Ellen jnr's son) apparently adopted by ellen and richard.
Incidentally we cannot find a Birth Certificate for Nora (my grandmother) and have been told that Hannah is probably Nora.
Thanks
Mary
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You should be able to identify Nora if she is Hannah, by her birthday. Some mistranscribed surnames ::) I wonder if this could be the problem with finding Morris/Maurice's death registration. I can't find a birth reg for Michael.
FITZGERALD Garrat
1 Jan 1865
Father Richard FITZGERALD Mother Ellen HARTY
At Port Gawler PtG 34/648
FITZGERALD Hannah
21 Sep1869
Father Richard FITZGERALD Mother Ellen HERTY
At Port Gawler PtG 77/226
FITZGERRALD Ellen
2 Sep 1873
Father Richard FITZGERRALD Mother Ellen HARTY
At Alma Gil 129/11
FITZGERLD Richard
22 Jun 1875
Father Richard FITZGERLD Mother Ellen HARRTY
At Alma Gil V 153/419
FITZGERLD Catherine
7 Jul 1877
Father Richard FITZGERLD Mother Ellen HARTY
At Alma Gil186/56
FITZGERALD Morris
4 Jun 1883
Father Richard FITZGERALD Mother Ellen HARGY
At Adelaide Ade304/384
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando
Have looked at the links for the Death Notices for Garrett and Michael and yes they are our family.
We knew about Garrett's but thanks for the one about Michael because the death that was listed on Ancestry had Michael as having died in Victoria which I knew was wrong as he lived in Victoria Park (W.A.) so we can correct that place and date of Death.
Cheers
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Cando
Regards Hannah (Nora) Unfortunately I do not know the exact date of Nora's birthday just that it was September.
As regards Michael we went into W.A. Genealogical Society last week and as you say could not find a Birth Certificate for him but I do know he existed as I met him and all his family. As far as Morris is concerned we have a Birth Certificate for him and he was born in 1883 whereas Michael was about 1867. Also Michael is listed on Ellen's Death Certificate as being 39 (2 years younger than Garrett who was born in 1865) making Garrett 41 when his mother died. Nora is listed as being 36.
Mary
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Hi Mary,
There is also Johanna Fitzgerald born on the 24 Aug 1871 who is not listed.
Cheers Merl
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Hi Merline
Yes but we think this is Annie as we have not found a Birth Certificate for her and we know she existed but I had never heard of a Johanna.
Cheers
Mary
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Mary I have searched the SA births pretty thoroughly and can't see a birth for Michael or Annie. Many Roman Catholics often failed to register the births of their children I think the explanation being that they considered the child's baptism sufficient registration and ignored the civil registration. Hannah's birthday is in Sept so I would say it is your Nora.
Michael's birth in 1867 fits in well with a birth every two years for Ellen.
I would think that WAGS would only search the death indexes and possibly some cemetery records for Morris. I do note that his name was Maurice on the electoral roll.
Was Richard Snr working away from home ie Wellington Mill in 1905?
Death
FITZGERALD [/b ]Michael
District Perth Reg#2005 1950
Michael was buried at Dwellingup cemetery however only his wife Elizabeth and son are mentioned. Perhaps his name was not inscribed on the headstone.
http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Murray/dwellingup.htm
However all of this information does not take us any closer to finding a death for Morris/Maurice.
Hi Mary,
There is also Johanna Fitzgerald born on the 24 Aug 1871 who is not listed.
Cheers Merl
Would you please give the references/sources for this birth....or are you taking the information from an online tree. I tend to treat online trees with a great deal of caution unlesss they are well referenced.
Annie's death
FITZGERALD Annie
Father Richard Mother Ellen HARDY
23 years at Clifton Hill 1895 Reg#1124
Cheers
Cando
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Sorry about the bold font....stuffed up there :-[ :P ;D
Cheers
Cando
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Hi
The name Hannah may have been a mistake for Hanora/Honorah and her birth was 21 Sept 1869.
Essie
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Hi Cando
Regarding Johanna and the birth date I received that when I went to wags last week but also had it in a family sheet from my cousin from years ago.
Annie's date of death and approx age we got from a funeral plaque that was ordered by her parents.
I have uploaded a copy but it is not very clear.
Cheers Merl
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Cando
I am not sure where Johanna came from but I think it was from the S.A. BDM and I know Annie was younger than Nora. If Hannah is Nora and was born in 1869 then the date for Johanna (who could be annie) would fit.
On the Electoral roll Richard was listed as a sawmill hand.
I have a photo in my grandmothers photo album of a plaque of Annie's death - she died at a very young age in 1895.
Cheers
Mary
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Hi Essie
Thanks for your input. Because I cannot find a Birth Certificate for Nora I tend to agree with you that Hannah could be Hanora or Honorah as Nora named her daughter (my Mother) Honora and because Ellen and richard would have had very broad irish accents when they pronounced Honora it could have sounded like Hannah. I think I have exhausted almost every avenue for a Birth Certificate for Nora.
Thanks again for your help.
Mary
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Hi Cando
Yes Richard was living at Wellington Mills in the 1910 electoral role and was with his children and family. That was their home base.
Cheers Merl
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Yes Merline but because I never heard my grandmother mention a Johanna that is why I think they may shortened Johanna to annie..
Cheers
Mary
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Thanks for the info Merl :) Did WAGS give you their source of information for the dob? I am a bit lost...where did you 'upload a copy"...sorry Merl if I sound a bit dense ;)
The information on the death registration in Vic would surely have been given by her parents. I cannot see a burial for her at any of the online cemeteries in the area of Clifton Hill. Do you know where the funeral plaque was placed. Some of the possible cemeteries in the area could be Heidelberg Cemetery, Northcote Cemetery or Melbourne General none of which have their burial records online.
Mary where did you find a death for Michael in Victoria in 1954...he died in WA so there is an error with the information. On the death index there is only one death for a Michael in 1954 and obviously not your man.
FITZGERALD Michael
Father Thomas Mother Unknown AHERN
At Fitzroy 79 years 1954 Reg#4847
Hi
The name Hannah may have been a mistake for Hanora/Honorah and her birth was 21 Sept 1869.
Essie
I agree Essie ;D ....birth info on thread ;D
Whew.
Cheers ;D
Cando
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Hi Cando
I never put the info on Ancestry about Michael's death . As soon as I saw it I knew it was wrong as after the Fitzgerald moved to W.A. they remained her and resided in victoria Park where we used to visit them so I don't know where that info came from.
Cheers
Mary
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Hi Cando,
I am not sure where she is buried she worked at Northcote and lived in Clifton Hills but she also had family members at Daylesford.
The death details for Michael Fitzgerald came from a grandson of Michael Fitzgerald's who has an online tree, so thought his information would have been correct, but obviously not so. ::)
Cheers
Merl
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. . . I tend to agree with you that Hannah could be Hanora or Honorah . .
Mary
Hi Mary
I have frequently seen Honora shortened to Nora. And Johanna was often shortened to Anna/Annie.
Now this is going to upset the details you have of Morris still being alive in 1905. This death record in Adelaide suggests Morris/Maurice died young.
??? ???
Maurice FITZGERALD died 26 Jun 1884 aged 13m
Relative: Richard FITZGERALD (F)
Residence & Death Place: Adelaide
Ade / Book 139 & Page 43
Died 1y 3wks if this was the birth of the same child.
Morris FITZGERALD born 4 Jun 1883
Birth Place/Residence: Adelaide
Ade / Book 304 & Page 384
Parents: Richard & Ellen
Essie
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Hi Essie
I checked and the birthdate for Morris and it is 4th June 1883 so that is a bombshell, perhaps Mary's Nan was referring to another Morris. No wonder we couldn't find any information as to his marriage, war records or death....
Case closed for Morris I would say, Mary.
Thanks so much for help Essie and Cando
Bye for now
Merl
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Hi Essie
I have just had another look at the letter written to my grandfather on 23 March 1905 to make sure I had it right. She says "Gary is going up to take a bench at Yarloop - he is going away Saturday morning and Mick and Maurice (note spelling) are going to Dardanup so you see as I said it would be I am left here on my own to get away the best way I can."
Earlier in the letter she says "there is a dance in the Hall tonight the close up Dance the mill finished today".
Obviously that is why everyone had to move to look for work and ended up in Wellington Mills - it appears my grandfather must have left a little earlier if the work was drying up.
Thanks
Mary
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Hi Cando,
I am not sure where she is buried she worked at Northcote and lived in Clifton Hills but she also had family members at Daylesford.
The death details for Michael Fitzgerald came from a grandson of Michael Fitzgerald's who has an online tree, so thought his information would have been correct, but obviously not so. ::)
Cheers
Merl
Out of interest I will make a couple of phone calls tomorrow to see if I can find where Annie is buried...I am also curious. Thanks for posting the plaque....I thought you meant a brass plaque on a headstone :-[ If Annie is buried at MGC there is no headstone. There is an old cemetery at Separation Street, Northcote and another cemetery near Clifton Hill [no 's'] is Heidelberg. To date I have not received a response to my two requests for burial locations for an aunt buried at Heidelberg so hope we find Annie's place of burial at MGC or Northcote. I should mention that Northcote has very limited information on burials...mainly compiled from receipts and other info. There appears to be no burial register as such. :o :o
Oh Merl....always check info....I am always finding errors in information. Away from rootschat I also help a lot of people with their family research and it is surprising how much information that has been accepted by families as correct is inaccurate. I'll step down from the soapbox now ;) If you need validation of any bdm's that aren't online just pm me ie in Vic [online but need to pay to view], Tas or SA. I have some limited info for NT. There are lots of lovely helpful people here that will help you check your info. ;D
Now who is the Morris that Ellen referred to in her letter in 1905 and who is the Maurice at Wellington Mill on the 1906 Electoral Roll? A relative?
Australian Electoral Roll
WA 1906 Swan/Wellington
FITZGERALD Elizabeth Wellington Mill HD
FITZGERALD Ellen Wellington Mill HD
FITZGERALD Maurice Wellington Mill Mill Hand
FITZGERALD Michael Wellington Mill Mill Hand
FITZGERALD Richard Jnr Wellington Mill Mill Hand
I am needed in the domestic dept....hungry males waiting for an evening meal ;D
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Essie and Cando
Thanks for all your help - Cando is it possible to try and find a Death Notice for the death of Morris as that may list all the siblings and it would be proof positive of his death.
Cheers
Mary
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Hi Cando
Just saw your post about Maurice Fitzgerald being on the Electoral Roll of 1906. The Maurice in the letter I was talking about was a letter from Nora to her husband John towers. Nora was Maurice's sister and you have probably read my post quoting from ler letter written in 1905.
Could you please see if you can take this further as I would really appreciate it.
Thanks heaps
Mary
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Hi Cando,
Thanks for your very helpful advice, and look forward to seeing if you find any info as to where Annie could be buried.
I have hunted through the family tree and cannot find any other Morris or Maurice mentioned.
Also is it possible that Ellen had another child after Morris died and named him Maurice but didn't register the birth. They seemed to do that back then, name a child after one that died and also I have a few on my tree who were never registered.
I have Morris's birth certificate here and he was definately born on the 4th June 1883 at Cassell Street Adelaide North Ward...and witness on his birth cert is Hannah Fitzgerald sister..she would have been about 13 or 14.
Cheers
Merl
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Hi
Index for WA Electoral Rolls has more than one Maurice FITZGERALD in 1906. Also in 1910 in Swan and still in 1925. A man of the same name was in the Goldfields too but he died in 1943 aged 80 so was not the brother of Nora. Records have sooo many FITZGERALD familes with the same names to make things difficult.
TROVE has mention of a Maurice FITZGERALD in trouble on the Albany-Wagin railway track in 1907.
BMD records in SA have a Maurice FITZGERALD married to Ann SULLIVAN in Adelaide in 1858 and the father was named Garrett FITZGERALD. At one time this couple lived at the same place as Richard and Ellen and also had a daughter named Honora. The Biographical Index SA has a Maurice and Richard both coming from "COR IRE". If they were brothers or cousins then some of that family may have moved to WA as well.
Essie
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Hi Essie,
That is interesting, about the bmd records in SA but our Richard was born about 1840. The Maurice and Richard coming from "Cork Ire" what year did they arrive?
Perhaps it was too early to tie in with our Richard, he married in SA 16 Feb 1864 aged about 24, could neither read or write and signed with a cross.
I am afraid I am not very good at searching SA I can't seem to get anywhere.
When you say that Maurice Fitzgerald and Ann Sullivan lived in the same place, did you mean the same suburb or house? It is a coincidence that the father is also named Garrett and came from Cork, as we have our Richard arriving on the ship "North" 12 Jan 1859 and that states he is from Cork but on his death certificate they have him born in Limerick. His marriage certificate has his father as Garrett.
It is all very confusing and it would be good to get to the bottom of this. But who knows, one day we might get some answers.
I will follow up the Trove incident you mentioned and keep searching the Electoral Roles. What is this sub that you mentioned to see details on it?
Cheers
Merl
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Hi Merl
Your Richard was said to be a "N=nominated" immigrant meaning someone sponsored him to emigrate. It could have been someone who had arrived previously such as a family member?
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/north1859.htm
Pt Gawler was named as the residence/birthplace for Garrett in1865 and Honora in 1869, and a child of Maurice - Catherine born 1862.
There was more than one Maurice who arrived as a single man but this one lived at Para a short distance from Pt Gawler. It was a farming district in those days.
FITZGERALD Maurice res: Upper Dry Creek, Little Para rel: RC
m: 21.9.1858 Adelaide SA Anne nee SULLIVAN
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/nugget1858.htm
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/navarino1857.htm
I can only search websites "as a guest" whereas "pay to view" details requires a subscription.
Essie
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Hi
Might this record may be an explanation for the Maurice and Elizabeth at Wellington Mill in the 1906 electoral roll?
FITZGERALD EDITH ANN died aged 17D in 1899 at DENMARK #2074
Parents MAURICE & ELIZABETH NEWTON
named as Elizabeth Ann in the birth record.
Essie
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Hi Essie,
Yes I went hunting last night and found the same thing but not the childs death. I am pleased you found out he was nominated, I had seen that N and never knew what it meant. And the GE does that mean government endorsed?
These below are the results of my search so far.
FITZGERALD ELIZABETH ANN father MAURICE mother NEWTON ELIZABETH DENMARK 4145 1899
WA MARR BIR:- Maurice birth 1 Jan 1874 married Elizth Newton 1 Jan 1898 child 1899
Name: Maurice Fitzgerald Spouse Name: Elizth Newton Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1892 Registration Number: 6542
They were in Denmark for the birth of their child in 1899 but not on the electoral roll for 1903 in Denmark. The Elizabeth on the 1906 electoral roll may also be Michael Fitzgerald's wife as he married an Elizabeth. It is doubtful the Richard on the 1906 in Wellington is ours as he is listed as a teacher and our Richard was illiterate on arriving in Australia.
I will keep looking at the electoral rolls and see if I can follow his movements.
It was interesting that he was in Victoria about the same time as Richard and Ellen and other members of the family, and came to Denmark about the same time.
I found 4 deaths in W.A for a Maurice Fitgerald and 2 were aged 80 when died and one was 67 and died in 1931 and one in 1914 in Northam, it didn't state his age.
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Merline
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Merline, more likely son Richard born 1875 listed as "jun" on the electoral roll 1906?
Some coincidence that Maurice and Elizabeth married in VIC when others were also in VIC in that decade, and then lived at Denmark too? Wonder who the parents were of this Maurice - details on the marriage certificate would be worth knowing.
Essie
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Hi Essie,
I think Richard "jun" could be him, but not sure. I will try to get Maurice and Elizabeth's marriage certificate, as you said it would be interesting to see who their parents were. I am not sure of marriage certificates in Melb. but the S.A marriage cert. only had the fathers name.
Thanks for the help
Cheers
Merl
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Hi Essie
I purchased the marriage certificate and it had both father Patrick Fitzgerald and Mother Margaret Quinlan, witnesses were Michael Fitzgerald and Hannah Fitzgerald, both Richards siblings. They were married at Clifton Hills and lived in Northcote which is where we found most of the family. Maurice was from Limerick. He was 26 when they married in March 1892 so I wonder if they had children in Vic. as I can't find anymore births after the death of baby Edith in Denmark. Also interested to see what the family connection is.
So I am off searching again
Cheers
Merl
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Hi Merl
Found two children born in SA to Patrick and Margaret at Dalkey - very close to Alma where Richard and Ellen lived for a few years.
Richard FITZGERRALD b. 13.09.1876
Parents: Patrick FITZGERRALD & Margaret QUINLAN
Birth Place/Residence: Dalkey
District Code: Gil, Book: 172 & Page: 276
Thomas FITZGERRALD b. 13.01.1879
Parents: Patrick FITZGERRALD & Margaret CONLAN
Birth Place/Residence: Dalkey
District Code: Gil, Book: 215 & Page: 221
From the Biographical Index SA.
FITZGERALD Pat b: c1841 IRL wife Mgt b: c1845
arr: 1875 TREVELYAN
occ: Farm Labourer
ch: Morris (1865-), Pat (1867-), Garrett (1869-), John (1870-), Michl (1872-),
Lawrence (1873-), Honora (@1875-)
I am inclined to think Maurice in WA in 1905 was from this family and not the Maurice born in 1883.
TROVE has Maurice at Northcote in a spot of trouble.
Essie
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Hi Essie
That was a great find and I also found them in Ireland, so the witness on their marriage certificate could have been Maurices siblings and not our Richard's children. These are the ones I found on the IGI site.
Patrick Fitzgerald and Margaret Quinlan's children:-
Marino Fitzgerald 4 Feb 1864 Mitchelstown District Cork
Patrick Fitzgerald 28 Feb 1866 Mitchelstown district Cork
Garrett Fitzgerald 9 August 1868 Mitchelstown district Cork
Michael Fitzgerald 8 August 1871 Cork Ireland
A little different from those on the list who came on the Trevalyan, perhaps Marino changed his name to Morris as a Morris wasn't on the list.
I will have a look at the Trove and it wouldn't surprise me if a Fitzgerald was in trouble over in Northcote as another family member was involved with Squizzy Taylor in the 1900's in Daylesford ;D ;D
It is amazing the coincidence with the names, both families living so close and having a Richard, Morris, Garrett, Michael and Honora. I didn't have her on the list and she was the year of arrival, may have been born at sea.
Yes I think the Maurice in WA was attached to this family and our Morris died in 1884.
I still need to find if they were related and how???
Thanks for doing such great detective work, from now on we need to call you Sherlock ;D
Cheers Merl
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Hi Essie,
I have found what could be Maurice's death, I looked into the incident on the train Wagin to Albany in 1907 that you picked up Essie and then found a Maurice Fitzgerald was killed by train in Bunbury 6 February 1912 p. I have tried to find some death notice for him but so far haven't found any. This could be him though.
Cheers Merl
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Hi Merl
Seems there was some confusion over his name. The SMH and Barrier Miner called him Maurice but WA papers called him Michael.
WA deaths did not have a Maurice FITZGERALD in 1912 - only a Michael FITZPATRICK.
1912 FITZPATRICK MICHAEL
WELLINGTON district #32
I got the impression from the earlier train incident that Maurice was mentally ill so circumstances in 1912 would not be surprising. One problem though was the reported age of this Maurice/Michael FITZ*.
Essie
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Hi Essie
I have searched and can't find any death notices or funeral for the Maurice who was killed 6 Feb 1912, as you said there is just the michael fitzpatrick. I think I need to go to the Batty Library and do a search of the newspaper there.
It has me baffled as a 30 year old man is reported killed by a train, they must have buried him and had a funeral and death notice.
I will let you know when I get an answer
Cheers
Merl