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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: Eilleen on Wednesday 02 February 11 14:21 GMT (UK)
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Hi :)
OK, so the Grand Hotel in St Mary street, Lincoln, is finally going to be bulldozed.
they have started tearing it's inside out , many trips to the tip will be needed.
nothing exciting found yet ::)
but it got me thinking about the old place , I worked for many years at the side of it , working for S.A.Nobbs and sons ;)
but I know nothing about what was there before it , etc, and when it first got built ???
anyone know anything about the history of that plot of land. :)
Eilleen.
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Just a passing thought Eilleen - when I were a lad it was two hotels until perhaps the 1960ish - the Grand and the Oxford.
In the 1933 Lincs Directory, the Grand was a "private hotel" and the Oxford a "commercial hotel".
It's possible they were on Norman Place around 1900
No2. Caledonian Hotel
No5. Alexandra Hotel
On GoogleMaps you can see the two older buildings it was built around http://tinyurl.com/6boosdu
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If you have Lincoln as it Was 4 there is a photo (page before the centre) taken of the station yard with, in the background, the photographic studio of Caleb Smith "now part of the Grand Hotel".
In the 1900 directory, Caleb Smith was at 1 Norman Place, so the hotels were perhaps Nos 1 & 2.
Looking through my books Eilleen, I came across a photo of the staff of Skelly Road junior school in 1960 - one of them is a Miss B M EXTON ... was she one of your lot?
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Hi Geoff :)
I have been looking through my books :)
I have found the picture you mentioned , but no close up's of old Grand Hotel etc. maybe there was not enough room to stand back and take a pic between buildings :)
I think that school teacher is Barbara , some sort of relly, must have another look now that you have brought it up. ::)
Eilleen.
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Hi, I am looking for more information about The Grand Hotel in Lincoln as my Grandmother was married from the Grand Hotel. I was told that my G Grandfather owned the hotel but I'm not sure if he owned it or managed it. Either way, my paternal grandparents marriage ceftificate gives my grandmothers address as The Grand Hotel.
I went to the Archives in Lincoln back in 2020 and they confirmed what I knew and gave me extra information which surprised me.
Pixie
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Hi Pixie :) Welcome to Rootschat
It would probably help if we knew the names of your relatives.
Be aware that the Grand changed a great deal during its existence.
The Grand that most people will remember is a single building (as shown on the right) but some time earlier it was a whole host of smaller premises. It was only around 1960 that it became a single building.
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Hi Geoff-E
Just to add, Kelly's 1905 directory says the Alexandra Hotel was private, and Mrs Spriggs was the proprietress,5 Norman Place, St Marys Street, Lincoln.
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Hello Pixie
Following on from Geoff's comments.
In 1933 Frank Holmes was linked to the Grand Hotel and described as the Manager of the Grand Hotel, Lincoln, in 1936.
Mrs Abigail Holmes was at The Grand Hotel, Lincoln in 1941, when she dismissed a member of staff.
Robert Broadbent owned 'The Oxford' and he died around the time that Mrs Holmes submitted plans in 1963 to incorporate the hotel buildings into one hotel.
Two of the original roof outlines (minus chimney stacks) of the altered facade (left side), are visible.
Obviously totally destroyed the earlier street scene character.
Looking at the photos part of the Oxford House site became a road?
Mark
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Lincolnshire Echo, 10th May 1934
THE NEW GRAND HOTEL
Few people who remember the old Alexandra Hotel, in St Mary's Street would to-day recognise it as the modern well-appointed building now known as the Grand Hotel. Re-opened in 1931, under management of Mr. Frank Holmes, the son of prominent Lincolnshire business man who is the proprietor, the premises were almost entirely rebuilt and modernised.
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Underneath (the above) is an advert panel for The Grand Hotel, St Mary Street, Lincoln.
Lincolnshire Echo, 9th June 1931
LINCOLN HOTEL BILL
... Ludlow pleaded not guilty to obtaining by false pretences from Robert Broadbent, the proprietor of the Oxford Hotel, Lincoln, the sum of £7 4s with intent to cheat and defraud on April 2.
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The newspaper called the hotel, the Oxford Hotel, Norman Street, Lincoln.
Lincolnshire Echo, 13th May 1963
OXFORD HOTEL LICENCE SWITCHED
Lincoln Magistrates granted today an application by Mrs Abigail Holmes for the temporary transfer of the licence of the Oxford Hotel, Lincoln, from the executors of the late Mr Robert Broadbent to herself.
Appearing for Mrs Holmes, Mr W. K. Wood said the Oxford and Grand hotel were now in the same ownership and in due course Mrs Holmes would be submitting plans for approval for the new "Super-Grand Hotel".
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Alexandra Hotel
Nottingham Guardian, 22nd March 1910
A court case mentions the respondents were:-
... Mr J. M. Warrener, Miss H. C. Warrener, and Mr W. T. Warrener, Lincoln, owners of the Alexandra Hotel, at Lincoln. ...
The case mentioned that in 1904 the Alexandra Hotel in the City was let to Mr Brian Edward Spriggs ...
Added:
Yorkshire Post, 22nd September 1910
ALEXANDRA COMMERCIAL HOTEL, Lincoln; central, near stations, 17 bedrooms; immediate possession.- Warrener, City Chambers, Lincoln.
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Early 1900s the Alexandra Hotel, Lincoln, was described as a Temperance Hotel and one advert suggested they preferred to employ a Wesleyan.
This 1931 newspaper piece (below) has reference to the former Alexandra Commercial Hotel and a Sunday School.
Lincolnshire Echo, 6th November 1931
LINCOLN’S NEW HOTEL
Likely To Be Completed Next Week.
The Grand Hotel in St Mary's Street, Lincoln, a comfortable addition to Lincoln's accomodation for visitors, is now nearing completion and will be ready, with capacity for about 50 people, by the November Race meeting next week.
This new venture is under Lincoln management, and occupies the site of the former Alexandra Commercial Hotel and the Alexandra House Sunday School.
The building suggests comfort and refinement, with red and cream outdoor decoration, while an open space in front of the hotel adds to its impressiveness, and provides accommodation for upwards of 30 cars. ...
17 Bedrooms, Bathroom, Commercial Room, Lounge, Dining Room, and a Reception Room which, when completed, will be convertible into two extra bedrooms.
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Just found the room rates in 1931 for the Grand Hotel (Overlooking L.N.E.R. Station.) St. Mary's Street
High Tea, Bed and Breakfast 9/-
Bed and Breakfast 6/6
H. & C. Running Water and Central Heating in all Bedrooms.
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UK old currency 20 shillings in £1.
9 shillings converts to 45 pence in today's money.
6 shillings & 6d (6d = 6 old pence, or half a shilling), which in today's money would be 32.5 pence.
Quite amusing today :)