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Matthew SALT was born circa 1793 in Alton Staffordshire. He married a Jane (surname unknown) born circa 1796 in either Church Lawton or Goldenhill, Staffordshire. They had 6 children and were all living in Macclesfield by 1841. The 1851 Census states that Jane was born in Church Lawton, whereas the 1861 Census has her born in Goldenhill. I have a copy of Jane's Will - she died on 11 Nov 1862. I'm looking for details about Jane (especially maiden name) and the family's early years. Thanks, ClaireB
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Could you post some more information please.
Have you found their marriage ??? I cannot see it on the IGI.
What were the children names ??? have you found any of their baptisms ???
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Matthew SALT married Jane ?, date unknown and had 6 children and according to 1851 census:
father Matthew (born 1793, Alton, Staffordshire)
mother Jane (born 1794, Lawton, Cheshire)
son John (born c 1816, Lane End, Staffordshire);
son Charles (born c 1819, Lane End, Staffordshire;);
daughter Sarah (born c 1821, Macclesfield, Cheshire);
son James (born c 1823, Lane End, Staffordshire);
daughter Elizabeth (born c 1826, Sutton, Cheshire);
daughter Rosanna (born 1829, Macclesfield, Cheshire).
It would appear that none of the sons married.
Daughter Sarah married Joseph HURST about 1843.
Daughter Elizabeth married William TATTON about 1848.
Daughter Rosanna first married George WARD in 1855. He died in 1869 so she married the widower Thomas Fytton/Fitton in 1872. Rosanna lived and worked in Macclesfield as a Provisions Dealer/Grocer Shopkeeper in Fountain St, until her death aged 80/81 in 1909.
Many thanks in anticipation, Claire
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I have been trying to find the batisms of the children, I assume you got the dates from the 41 and 51 census's.
According to the 1851 Roseanna was born in Macclesfield.
There is a baptism of a Rose Hannah ch. 30.5.1830 St. Michael's, Macclesfield on the IGI Pilot Search which gives the parents as Matthew Salt and Mary, so I am wondering if either Mary was Mary Jane or he was widowed before the 41 census and remarried Jane by 51, unfortunately we cannot tell his status from the 1841 :(
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Searching plus or minus 10 years all counties :-
The IGI has an extracted marriage of a Matthew Salt to a Mary Handley 11.9.1817 St Michael's Stone, Stafford :-\
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But in 1841 census in Macclesfield there is no mention of Jane, only Matthew and several children. There is a marriage of Matthew Salt in Macclesfield Registration District September quarter 1844, page 99. Jane Wych and Jane Ward appear on the same page.
BumbleB
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But in 1841 census in Macclesfield there is no mention of Jane,
Exactly , thats why I wondered if she may have been Mary Jane or he was widowed by that time as no relationships or status are given.
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From the FamilySearch site https://www.familysearch.org/
Matthew SALT (son of Thomas SALT) married Jane WARD (daughter of Benjamin HANCOCK) at St James, Gawsworth on 5 August 1844. "Age 52 y"
As well as the baptism Patrish found for Rose Hannah, there are baptisms in Macclesfield for a Sarah (1821) an Elizabeth (1825), and a Mary Anne (1827), daughters of Matthew SALT and Mary.
A Mary SALT b.1804 was buried at St Albans, Macclesfield on 14 May 1833.
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I had found those baptisms but hadent got around to posting them yet ;D
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You are all wonderful :) and make me want to cry with your enthusiasm and dedication. :) :'(
I had always wondered where the "Jane Salt" was in 1841 Census as she wasn't with her husband Matthew SALT or 5 of the 6 children I know about in Macclesfield. If the records state Matthew married Jane in 1843 then that explains her non-existence. I did wonder if she was the Jane SALT I found in Alton, Staffordshire but now think that was a different family.
So that fixes Jane SALT as being born in Lawton and her surname before marriage to Matthew could well have been WARD as Matthew's daughter Rosanna went on to marry a George Ward in 1855. It's all about people and relatives you know and meet really, in the days before decent transport. Of course I now realise that Jane is not my blood relative, as she is not the birth mother of Rosanna or Rose Hannah born about 1829. I have a tapestry on my wall created by and with signature sewed as "Rosanna Salt, 1850".
There is no mention of a daughter Mary Anne being with father Matthew SALT in the 1841 Census when she would have been about 15, but she could have been a servant somewhere else. I have not yet found her in any searches though. She is certainly not mentioned in Matthew's 1852 Will. So the baptism in 1827 and date of death in 1843 do fit.
So I really want to confirm that Mary Handley was the first wife of Matthew and the mother of the 6 children I know about. That gives me 7 generations of women ending in my daughters.
I live in Australia and will be passing through Staffordshire/Cheshire in July for about 3 days to do some research and take some photos. Any advice on where I should go to minimise the paper chase would be much appreciated. :) :) :) :) :)
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IGI extracted marriage record Matthew Salt to Mary Handley 11.9.1817 St Michael, Stone, Stafford.
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Claire: On your intended visit to Staffordshire and Cheshire, firstly I suggest that you bring your winter woollies with you - I know it's going to be July, but so what in this country!! ;D
You're obviously going to want to visit Macclesfield, Prestbury, Gawsworth etc, which are all very close to each other, in order to view the locations etc and take photos. But, and I may be wrong here so suggest you might like to ask someone on the Cheshire board, in order to research in the parish records you are going to have to visit Chester because, so far as I can see, that is the only location for the Archives. They have a website - archives.cheshire.gov.uk which might be useful to you, and Chester is a wonderful city - I was born there ;D ;D
Not sure what you want to do in Staffordshire, but the main Archives are in Stafford.
Please let me know if I can be of any further help to you. I'd like to repay some of the kindness that I received when I visited Australia last year.
Sue
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Thanks Bumblebee. When I leave here in July it will be our version of winter which from memory is often warmer than your early summer. I was last in UK about 20 years ago.
I suspect my visit to Macclesfield area will be short as most of the buildings have disappeared. I noticed that the area where my 2g.gran lived and worked for most of her life is now row upon row or lifeless brick terraces. No trees or greenery. Very unimpressive. The New Inn which she once owned was at 10 Park Lane and now appears to be a tree on a roundabout or some such road division. Still that leaves me with Churchs, cemeteries and a general impression.
Things looking up in Staffordshire as there is a bit more interest following both maternal 3g.grandparents. If they married in Stone, can I assume that the bride Mary Handley came from nearby? Can't imagine that they would have been travelling too far from her home in 1817.
I would love to link up with someone who knows more about Stone. I can't see that the St.Michael's Church records have been transcribed, but perhaps I am looking in the wrong place. So hard from this side of the world to know where to look.
Again, many thanks to you all. :) :) :)
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Would you like me to look at the parish registers for Stone/Church Lawton etc? I can always get to my local Archives in Lichfield - I have a bus pass (so no cost) and time!! Just let me know what you would like me to look for.
It was usual for the marriage to take place in the bride's parish, but not exclusively ::) That would be just too easy ;D
BumbleB
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BumbleB,
If you have the time to look through the Parish registers for Stone, that would be wonderful. Apparently the Staffs Record Office do hold the marriage register for St. Michael's, Stone. Please don't put yourself out.
Thanks
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What immaculate timing - I'm booked in for Monday ;D
BumbleB
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Hi Claire:
Matthew Salt of the parish of Stoke on Trent, widower, and Mary Handley of this parish, spinster were married by Licence at St Michael Stone on 11 September 1817. Both signed. Witnesses were Sampson Handley and Mary Hill.
I was able to look at the licence which did not give much more information other than Matthew was a grocer, and Sampson a miller.
Cheers
BumbleB
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BumbleB,
You are wonderful! :) :) :) :) :) :)
This solves two questions and raises another - as always. ???
If Matthew was a widower then his (presumably) first wife must have died. She was the biological mother of John born in 1816 and dare I suggest she may have died in childbirth or is that too much to assume?
Matthew then married Mary in 1917. John's half-siblings, including my 2g.grandmother, were the offspring of Matthew (born 1793) and Mary (born 1803). The oldest of these was born in 1819/20 which makes Mary 16.
This is a lot easier to understand than having a 13-year old Mary being the mother of John!
So many questions. But you have given me a wealth of information to work with. Clearly now I need to search for more details about Mary Handley's family as she is my 3g.grandmother. So I must go to Stone in July. I owe you a coffee. You have made me so happy. Thank you, thank you, thank you :) :) :)
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Hi Claire: Not a problem, and glad to have been of service. Just wondering where you got the details for John Salt, born 1816? I've had a look on the new Family Search site and there is a John Salt baptised 6 August 1814 with father Matthew (and a choice of mother - Mary or Sarah) at St John, Longton. I think I should take a look at that, if you agree. Plus there appears to be a marriage in Stoke on Trent of Matthew Salt and Sarah Robinson on 2 August 1813 - perhaps I should check that out for you as well :-\ Let me know :)
Sue
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BumbleB,
Any searches you can do for me would be much appreciated.
In 1841, John is living with father Matthew and 4 siblings in Windmill Yard, Prestbury, Macclesfield.
In 1851, Matthew is now married to Jane (3rd wife) and they and youngest daughter Rosanna (Rosanah) are living in Fountain St, Sutton, Macclesfield. Meanwhile, John, Charles and James SALT are living as cowkeepers in Windmill Yard, Prestbury, Macclesfield. John has birthyear 1816, Charles 1819 and James 1823. All 3 claim to be born in Lane End, Staffordshire. RG HO107 Place 2159 Folio 470 Page 12.
According to Mathew's Will in 1852, he had sons John, Charles, James and daughters Sarah, Elizabeth and Rosannah.
I haven't narrowed down my search for John in 1861 or 1871.
I had thought I had found John again in 1881, living with his brother Charles at Blakelow Bank. Perhaps not, as they both are bachelors, claiming to have been born in Congleton, Cheshire.
Thanks.
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My Gt Aunty was Annie Eliza Salt born 1875 ish and married my Granddads brother Thomas Tidmarsh (born Clowne Derbyshire 1868) in Dilhorne Staffs in 1898. Apart from a website full of Salts in that area? I have little knowledge of her therefore will follow your threads with interest of your Salt family.
Dave
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Hello Dave,
I am not aware of an Annie Eliza Salt anywhere in my tree. If I start with Matthew SALT, born in Alton, he had at least 3 sons and 3 daughters, but I haven't been able to trace the sons as having married or fathered children which means the surname SALT would have died out in my tree. The daughters married into HURST, TATTON, WARD and FYTTON/FITTON families in Macclesfield area.
But the search is just beginning in earnest now, so you never know what may turn up.
Cheers :)
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1861 census shows Charles aged 35 and John aged 38 living in Macclesfield - RG9 2579 folio 131 page 20. Charles is the farmer and John his Ag Lab!! Both now say they were born in Longton. Can't locate James at the moment.
Sue
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1871 census RG10 3673 folio 140 page 17. Charles, now aged 53 is on the same farm, John has disappeared, James Hurst 20 and Mary Jane Hurst 16, nephew and niece are working for him. Charles now born Eston, Staffordshire.
Sue
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Yes BumbleB, that's the curious thing.
In 1881, I see both Charles as Head, unmarried, and John, brother, unmarried, living in Blakelow Bank, Macclesfield. Both claim to have been born in Congleton. RG11 3492/97 Page 23.
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... and it's definitely my Charles, as his sister Sarah married Joseph HURST in 1843.
They had children Emma (1846), Matthew (1848), James (1851), MaryJane (1855), Sarah Ann (1858) and Florence (1865).
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Hi
I have being doing the Tidmarsh family in Warwickshire, Derbyshire and have not done anything on the Stafford lot as its mostly post 1911 census stuff but my Granddad used to Yap about his Family from Staffs alot so I really should do. Buzzy BEE above has done so much for me already I don't like asking really.
Mind you! It cost me nettle stings, cuts & bruises in a graveyard in pellon jungle Halifax and one numb bum sitting in Yorkshire archives looking for a burial of the phantom of the apple (Grave)-yard at illingworth church Halifax and ;D as a return favour. Great lady though as a real diamond but watch for the sting :D ;D
I keep in touch
Dave :D
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Dave - you will be the death of me ;D ;D You're never going to let me forget those incidents, are you? But I did warn you about the nettles, so it was your own fault if you didn't take notice of me ;D ;D Claire, just ignore him ;)
Sue
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Ahhhhhh, Yorkshire. My father's side is all Yorkshire. In fact I can trace back to 1388 or some such. I'm good Viking stock via Ireland or France or both on that side.
I was just trying to stick to the female line for a challenge. Much harder to find the girls as they usually change their surname upon marriage.
Back to the SALTs. If you come across Thomas SALT father of Mathew SALT, I'd like to know. I'm looking for a possible link between Thomas SALT and Elizabeth BRINDLEY, daughter of Joseph who was brother of the famous canal engineer, James BRINDLEY.
The family tale is that we have a link.
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She's right ! She not Wrong! just can't remember what she was right about. ;D
Good Luck with it all- Dave :D
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Oh, dear it might be fisticuffs at dawn then - my husband is related to John Grundy - Brindley's rival! :o ::)
But, back to the Salt family - I'll have a look at the marriage of Matthew and Sarah Robinson, plus the baptism of John Salt at Longton and see what else I can dig up.
Sue
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Claire: Just remembered that there is a church at Lane End (not sure where that is in the relation of this area as it doesn't seem to exist as a separate entity anymore), and there is a gap in the coverage on the Hugh Wallis site, so I've booked myself back into the Archives tomorrow, and let's see what that brings up, plus I'll have a look at that 1814 baptism at Longton for John Salt. There was also an "entry" on the new Family Search for Charles being born in 1818 and baptised two years later at Milwich (no actual date given though, other than November 1820) because Charles at one stage says that he was born in (transcribed as) Eston but there is a Coton which is very near to Milwich, Alston and Stone, and Fradswell is not far away either - so they're all in your kind of area. Anyway I'll be back :-* ;D
Sue
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I am following this thread with great interest :)
It must be wonderful to be able to get to your local archives easily :) , wish I could get to mine :(
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I know, patrish - but I ONLY live here :) :) My research is Yorkshire, and I can't get there :'( :'( :'( So I do what I can for others. But I feel a bit sad, because I get the "yahooo" feeling when I find something, and the person whose family it is, doesn't :-* You can't win!
Sue
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I don't live anywhere near any local archives :( so I am not able to help others, only wish I could, like you it gives me immense satisfaction if I can :)
I do belong to my local family history society (I have to rely on a friend taking me there) ::) which had a library just around the corner from where I live, just as my children left home and I had time to spare.... they moved :'(
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patrish: so where do you live in Kent? We lived in Rainham for 20 years, but then I had no interest in family history, and don't have any connections, anyway :'(
Sue
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Back online after a night's sleep and a long day at work. I can sympathise with you both and more. It is so frustrating trying to reasearch families in Europe from this side of the world. There is nothing like seeing things for yourself. What I love about this game is the chase. I have been down so many dead-ends, but found some gems along the way.
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So I have found a Thomas SALT married to Elizabeth BRINDLEY on 21 Jul 1771 in Alton, Stafford. This is looking very promising.
The details on FamilySearch refer to Indexing batch number M03216-3, source film number 1278803 and reference item 7 p 8 n24. Now that is the bit that doesn't mean anything to me. Where do I look now?
I suspect they had a son called Thomas and he fathered my Matthew SALT, otherwise they waited 25 years before having my Matthew.
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Claire: No idea what that means, sorry. But I could have a look at the register the next time I go to Lichfield.
Today's haul - not a lot I'm afraid, your Salts are very elusive (I think I now know how Dave felt about my quest ;D).
St John, Longton - baptism 6 August 1814 - John, son of Matthew and Sarah Salt of Lane End, Grocer. No other Salt baptisms at St John Longton which covers Lane End.
St Peter ad Vincula, Stoke on Trent - marriage 2 August 1813 - Matthew Salt bachelor and Miller and Mary Robinson, spinster, both of this parish married by Banns. However the signature is SARAH Robinson (the previous marriage was for a Mary Robinson as well ::)) Witnesses: William Poulson and Jane Brassington (x).
Baptisms checked at Milwich, St Peter ad Vincula, and Stone - nothing at all.
I thought I was getting somewhere when I found a burial at St John for a Mary Salt aged 1 week on 13 April 1816, but no sign of Sarah's burial prior to Matthew's remarriage in 1817.
Parsons & Bradshaw, Staffordshire Directory 1818,
Lane End - Matthew Sault, Grocer and flour dealer, High Street and George Sault, Joiner of George Street.
So no sign, so far of Charles and James.
Sue
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Just had a look at Historical Directories but there is no sign of a Salt (any spelling) in Lane End in
1828 Pigot or 1834 Directory of Staffordshire.
Sue
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I know, patrish - but I ONLY live here :) :) My research is Yorkshire, and I can't get there :'( :'( :'( So I do what I can for others. But I feel a bit sad, because I get the "yahooo" feeling when I find something, and the person whose family it is, doesn't :-* You can't win!
Sue
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Load of Salt's of Staff's in this tree
http://www.finneyfamily.fslife.co.uk/findex2.htm#SALT
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Claire: I've been wondering whether the fact that I have been unable to locate baptisms for Charles and James is because Mary was nonconfirmist, and although she would have had to marry in an Anglican church, she had the children baptised as nonconformists - and, unfortunately, I don't have access at Lichfield to nonconformist records in Longton. OR I was going to suggest that perhaps Matthew and Mary left Longton after they married, but then Matthew appears in the 1818 Directory, so perhaps that's not the answer :-\ Ah, BUT that was the year of publication, and possibly not the year when entries were accepted :-\ So they could have moved away by the time the Directory was published, and all the children, except John, were born and baptised in Cheshire.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
You have obviously been doing this for a while as you seem to have a wealth of knowledge and ideas. I am happy to take these on board as I have nothing to offer from this end of the world.
I have just read a response to my post about Thomas Salt and Elizabeth Brindley. They had at least 6 children spanning 16 years, baptised at St Peters, Alton. The youngest was a Matthew born 22 June 1788. This is 5 years too early for my Mattthew :-\ but I live in hope that I can see the connection. :)
Claire
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Hi Claire,
Looking at the info supplied by kind members of Rootschat also info supplied by yourself!
You seem positive Matthew Salt b 1793 in Alton on the 1851 census is your ancestor.
Batch Number: C032162
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyStafford_(A-M).htm#A
Alton seems to be isolated in the valley of the river Churnet between Cheadle and Denstone, in the above link is a list all Salt Baptism! so you need to check the Parents producing siblings around 1785/95
Matthew seem state this Alton was is place of birth.
Census records only had to take info by word of mouth by the person who supplied it but not from the person who's actual info events was being recorded. Only reasonable age or year of birth that can be taken as anything near correct is infant/teenage entries with their parents but any later age as adults is always suspect! to slight inaccuracy by a few years.
The age of Matthew and Place of his birth and residence in later years are your key
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Matthew SALT married Jane ?, date unknown and had 6 children and according to 1851 census:
father Matthew (born 1793, Alton, Staffordshire)
mother Jane (born 1794, Lawton, Cheshire)
son John (born c 1816, Lane End, Staffordshire);
son Charles (born c 1819, Lane End, Staffordshire;);
daughter Sarah (born c 1821, Macclesfield, Cheshire); ???
son James (born c 1823, Lane End, Staffordshire);
daughter Elizabeth (born c 1826, Sutton, Cheshire);
daughter Rosanna (born 1829, Macclesfield, Cheshire).
It would appear that none of the sons married.
Daughter Sarah married Joseph HURST about 1843.
Daughter Elizabeth married William TATTON about 1848.
Daughter Rosanna first married George WARD in 1855. He died in 1869 so she married the widower Thomas Fytton/Fitton in 1872. Rosanna lived and worked in Macclesfield as a Provisions Dealer/Grocer Shopkeeper in Fountain St, until her death aged 80/81 in 1909.
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GRO
Deaths Sep 1852
Salt Matthew Macclesfield 8a 112
This should give his age at death
Manchester Rambler supplied this info
Matthew SALT (son of Thomas SALT) married Jane WARD (daughter of Benjamin HANCOCK) t St James,
Gawsworth on 5 August 1844. "Age 52 y" ( b 1792)
GRO
Marriages Sep 1844
SALT Matthew Macclesfield 19 99 (Jane Ward)
Therefore with this info above based on no other Matthew of Alton only Matthew baptised 1788 well within the inccuracy of census age for adults of 5 years that is acceptable with Death ages, lies told on marriages info, illiterate informants on census and death certificated and many more event's.
I think a broad view commonsense says Matthew bapt 1788 is your Matthew based on his Alton place of birth 1851 census
Sending for certificate is costly! and not always the right one of your family but sometimes one has to buy them! for proof by elimination of others or Just to prove the event was or was not yours.
But that life if you want the best info >:(
Hope it Helps
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Yes DobFarm, wise words indeed. :)
I was waiting for a few more chickens to come home to roost (so-to-speak) before I did a batch order of birth, marriage and death certficates. I have a photocopy of the Wills of both Matthew SALT and Jane SALT, that's how I knew the married names of the daughters, long before I started looking up Census information.
There seems to have been a flood of information all at once and I have needed time to sort it all out. Add to that the family recollections passed down through the years which also needed to be sifted through.
I have already contacted the people at Staffordshire records.
DobFarm, thanks for helping out.
BumbleB, I still owe you a coffee and probably lunch for all your help.
I will be touring selected sites of Staffordshire/Cheshire for sure in mid July.
Thanks again, Claire
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Could someone please answer a question for me?
Where or what is Lane End in Staffordshire?
Is it a village, town or Parish?
I am confused because there is a place referred to as Sutton Lane Ends near/now part of Macclesfield.
Thanks
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Google map -Longton ,staffordshire This is more Newcastle under lyme-Stoke on trent area.
Macclesfield is Greater Manchester or Cheshire or the very top edge of Staffordshire
See where the roads are converging now called the 'STRAND' seems the same a places the old 1755 map
http://www.thepotteries.org/maps/yates_laneend.htm
By the way! that link IGI Hugh Wallis above on my last post.
In the Alton search box just put in 'Salt 'in the surname box with no first name brinks up all the 'Salt' Baptisms
I would strongly recomend going to your nearest LDS family library and order the film batch Number: C032162 for 3 month as there maybe entries over looked as poor/near unreadable entries not in the IGI list for Alton -when time permits.
Seeing as you've got Mathew's Will as a long term back burner job?
Thomas /or any of the fathers in the at batch number? (an unreadable unknown bapt of Matthew in Alton ) There maybe a Will of Matthew's dad and that could be a bunch of fun!
Being like you as not living near Staffordshire! I'm restricted as repositories to search to be any real help to you :(- some parts of Macclesfield are just within my outer area as alot of their records are at Manchester archives.
Dave :)
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Thanks for the map.
I have gone through everything posted a number of times and feel fairly confident now that
1) Matthew Salt was born 1788, his mother was Elizabeth Brindley whose father Joseph was the brother of James Brindley, canal engineer. Fits with the family stories.
2) Matthew's 2nd wife Mary HANDLEY is my blood relative.
I have sent my request off to Staffordshire Records Office, so let's see what they come up with.
Should I close the thread or keep it open a bit longer to let you all know the results?
Happy to carry on communicating with you all directly, off-site.
Thanks, Claire
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Macclesfield is Greater Manchester
Link for location only (Not Hospitals)
http://www.gmccn.nhs.uk/CancerInfo/HelpSupport/InformationCentres/Macclesfield
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Keep this thread open (unlocked) as someone one day may read it that is of this family, but make it completed on post one (1) subject! then is put on complete board by a moderator but still comes up in the rootschat search engine and can be replied too.
Dave
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Hi Claire
You may have found this ??? but if not! -therewithe -many 'Salt' Memorial inscriptions for Staffordshire including some 'Alton'.
http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/cgi-bin/RLsearch.cgi?terms=salt&filter=0None&type=all&sort=Matches&disp=10
for any surname link
search engine box
http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/search_form.html
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I have managed to confirm the folowing regarding Matthew SALT of Alton.
Matthew SALT born 1788, baptised 22 June 1788, Alton, son of Thomas Salt and Elizabeth (nee Brindley).
Thomas and Elizabeth had married on 21 July 1771. Elizabeth’s father was Joseph Brindley, brother of canal engineer James Brindley.
Matthew SALT married (1) Sarah Robinson, aged about 18, on 02 Aug 1813, St.Peter’s Church, Stoke-on-Trent. They had son John and possibly daughter. Sarah SALT was buried aged 20, on 28th April 1815 at Stoke. She had lived at Lane End in Longton.
Matthew SALT married (2) Mary Handley on 11 Sep 1817, Stone. One of the witnesses was a Sampson Handley, possibly her brother, born 1790. Mary was baptised in Milwich on 12 Nov 1792. The parents of Sampson and Mary were John and Sarah Handley. Matthew and Mary had at least 5 children, born in Staffs and Cheshire.
Matthew SALT married (3) Jane Ward (nee Hancock) 1844 – they both lived and died in Macclesfield.
So now my search starts afresh with delving into the Handley family. Yippee! :) :) ;D
Thanks, Claire
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Hi Claire,
It has been a while since you posted on this board so I wondered how you were getting on with your tracking of our Handley ancestors? BTW it would appear that we are distant relations :D I have Belcher, Salt, Handley, Knight, Hall & Meredith in my family tree right up to living Merediths!
I don't have any info on Matthew Salt or the children of he and Mary but am working on it - it's a HUGE family!
All the best,
Fran
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Hi I don't know if this helps but I'm related to James Brindley through his brother Henry Brindley. James is my 6th Great Uncle. I found this site searching for information. I've also found the attached link about James's siblings, it may help? Hope you find what you're looking for.
http://roegenealogy.com/FH%20Website/fam7211.html
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It has been a very long time (many years) since I was on this post.
I am related to James Brindley, canal engineer, via another brother, Joseph.
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Does this mean we are distant cousins? :)
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Hello distant cousin BRINDLEY.
James BRINDLEY (snr) is my 6g grandfather and our common ancestral link.
My 2g maternal grandmother was Rosanna SALT.
Rosanna’s parents were Matthew SALT and his second wife Mary HANDLEY.
Matthew’s parents were Thomas SALT and Elizabeth BRINDLEY.
Elizabeth’s parents were Joseph BRINDLEY and his first wife Sarah BENNETT.
Joseph’s parents were James BRINDLEY (snr) and Susanna BRADBURY.
Back to Joseph. His older brother was the JAMES BRINDLEY, canal engineer. Joseph had a number of siblings including James, John, Esther, Henry, Ann, Mary and Elizabeth.