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Title: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Essexfamily on Monday 31 January 11 14:54 GMT (UK)
Hi

I would dearly love to find out more information about my dad's family - he is 79 now and doesn't really remember much about them.  I've never done anything like this before and am a little worried about getting carried away spending too much money for no results.

Anyway, my hairdresser told me about this fantastic site, so I thought I'd give it a try and here I am  :D

My dad's name is John Ernest Storry and his parents were Ernest and Violet Storry (nee Francis).  They lived in Chelmsford, Essex.  That's about as much as I know! Is that enough to find anything?

I'd be so grateful for any info/help/advice!
Thanks
Kellie
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Mort29 on Monday 31 January 11 14:59 GMT (UK)
Here's your grandparents Marriage Index entry - you may need to order a certificate to show their ages & Fathers names

Marriages Jun 1928 
 
 
FRANCIS  Violet to STORRY  Chelmsford  4a 1513   
FRENCH  Ada  LESTER  Chelmsford  4a 1513   
Lester  George S E  French  Chelmsford  4a 1513   
Storry  Ernest H to Francis  Chelmsford  4a 1513   



this looks like Ernest's Birth Index entry

Births Jun 1906
 
Storry  Ernest Handley    Chelmsford  4a 711



and Violet's - BUT, there are multiple candidates born in Essex overall, altho the majority have more than one forename ... this does look good tho being 'of an age' and CHELMSFORD

Births Dec 1905 

 
Francis  Violet     Chelmsford  4a 664   


Order Certs online here (£9.25) using the info shown in the quoted Index entries - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: lizdb on Monday 31 January 11 15:07 GMT (UK)
You should be able to find Ernest on the 1911 census, hopefully with his parents and any older siblings!

We are unable to do look ups on 1911, but you can buy a few credits on the site to enable you to have a look at the actual entry, if you do locate it.
If you then post the detials here, we might be able to spot them in earlier censuses.
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Mort29 on Monday 31 January 11 15:10 GMT (UK)
Based on the Year and place, I'd say this was Ernest's parents marriage - verifiable via Ernest's Marriage Papers, his own Birth Cert or the -1911- census.

Marriages Dec 1901   
 
Bacon  Agnes Mary A    Chelmsford  4a 942   
Bateman  Florence Edith     Chelmsford  4a 942   
Janes  Thomas Arthur     Chelmsford  4a 942   
Storry  Willie     Chelmsford  4a 942


As the Index page has both couples, you'd need Ernest's Birth Cert or the -1911- census to verify who married who or whom  ;)  Pity its just after the 1901 census or that would have clinched things ...


Looking at the 1901, and allowing for mis-transcritions of the name, there's a Willie STOREY lodging in Springfield, Great Baddow / Chelmsford area.

RG13/Piece: 1674 Folio: 14 Page: 19

He is a bricklayer and was born c1877 in Cambs, Wisbeach. Lodging with a BACON family

Looking at other STORRY births in Chelmsford from 1901 to 1911 I'd be tempted to think that Willie married Agnes M A Bacon ... probably a relation of the people he stayed with in the 1901 census.


Anyways, starting to guess now - so over to you  :)
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: behindthefrogs on Monday 31 January 11 15:23 GMT (UK)
The family would seem to be:

Willie Storry born Q2 1876 Wisbech
Agnes Mary Ann Storry born Q3 1873
Agnes born Q2 1903
Ernest Handley Q2  1906
Clifford born Q2 1909

They were all born in Chelmsford District except Willie
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: behindthefrogs on Monday 31 January 11 15:46 GMT (UK)
Doing a search on freeBMD of Chelmsford Registration District for children with father Storry and mother Bacon reveals two further children.

Phyllis born Q4 1911
Vera M born Q3 1916
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Mort29 on Monday 31 January 11 16:09 GMT (UK)
anyways, based on the above confirmation of my 1901 find, and the marriage etc, this seems to be Willie in the 1891 census of Wisbech -  RG12/Piece: 1305 Folio 79 Page 1 - @ 32, Lynn Road
 
Joseph Storry 42 Head of Household born Norfolk, Welney: a Bricklayer
Phoebe Storry 39 Wife born Cambs, Elm
Willie Storry 14 son born Wisbech: Brickies Lab.
Flora Storry 13 dau born Norfolk, Walsoken
John Storry 10 son Wisbech
Harry Storry 7 son ditto
Mary I Storry 5 dau ditto
Alfred Storry 2 son ditto


The family are in Wisbech too in 1881 - RG11/Piece: 1696 Folio: 73 Page: 5 - Willie has a few older siblings.
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 31 January 11 16:39 GMT (UK)
IGI marriage extracted

Joseph STORRY father John Thomas STORRY
Phoebe HANDLEY father John HANDLEY
17/10/1869 Wisbech St. Peter's Cambridge

1871 census RG10Piece:1616    Folio:64 Page:35   
Albert Street, Wisbech

Joseph STORRY 1858 Welney Norfolk Bricklayer
Phoebe 1842 Elm Cambridge
Hugh 1871 Norfolk
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Mort29 on Monday 31 January 11 16:54 GMT (UK)
Handley neatly links to Ernest's middle name  8)


No earlier maiden names in Willies entry tho ...

Births Jun 1876 
 
Storry  Willie    Wisbeach  3b 662

Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 31 January 11 18:06 GMT (UK)
Here's your grandparents Marriage Index entry - you may need to order a certificate to show their ages & Fathers names

Marriages Jun 1928 
 
FRANCIS  Violet to STORRY  Chelmsford  4a 1513   
FRENCH  Ada  LESTER  Chelmsford  4a 1513   
Lester  George S E  French  Chelmsford  4a 1513   
Storry  Ernest H to Francis  Chelmsford  4a 1513 

and Violet's - BUT, there are multiple candidates born in Essex overall, altho the majority have more than one forename ... this does look good tho being 'of an age' and CHELMSFORD

Births Dec 1905 

 
Francis  Violet     Chelmsford  4a 664   


I would agree that Violet's birth 1905 looks good  :)

Use the free search 1911 census
http://www.1911census.co.uk
FRANCIS Violet Chelmsford then search again with
FRANCIS Chelmsford other members of household Violet
as mentioned to view original transcript you need to purchase credits

The following would appear to be Violet's parents
as suggested ordering marriage certificate would confirm

James FRANCIS name on same page
Minnie WRIGHT
1896 Dec q Chelmsford

1901c
George Street, Chelmsford, Moulsham Essex
RG13 Piece:1672 Folio:27 Page:16 
FRANCIS, James Head Married M 27 1874 Laborer At Arc Works Kelvedon Essex
Minnie Wife Married F 26 1875 Great Samford Essex
James Sydney Son M 4 1897 Great Samford
Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1900 Great Samford
HIGGENS, Charles J Boarder Single M 23 1878 Appleby Lincoln
Electrical Engineer Wireless Telegraph
DEAN, William Visitor Married M 24 1877 Journeyman Carpenter Cheltenham
 
1891c Brockel Lane, Kelvedon
RG12 Piece:1424 Folio:6 Page:3     
FRANCIS, James Head Married M 44 1847 Agricultural Labourer Ardleigh
Amelia Wife Married F 49 1842 Stoke by Nayland Essex
James Son Single M 17 1874 Gardener Kelvedon Essex
Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1877 General Servant Kelvedon
William Son M 12 1879 Scholar Kelvedon Essex

1891c The Street, Danbury, Bienacre
RG12 Piece:1389 Folio:140 Page:3 
HAY, Edward F Head Single M 41 1850 Curate Of Danbury Little Warley
SMITH, Georgina A Servant Widow F 63 1828 Housekeeper Domestic Servant
WRIGHT, Minnie Servant Single F 16 1875 General Domestic Servant Gt. Sampford

1881 census free to view http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

1881c Street, Great Sampford
Minnie WRIGHT age 7 Sampford Essex with family parents names are Thomas 1834 & Elizabeth 1837, William, Edward, Herbert, Sidney & Mary




Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Essexfamily on Tuesday 01 February 11 10:21 GMT (UK)
 :D
Oh my goodness!! You are such wonderful people!! Thank you so much.  I can start to look into this further now, but am armed with lots of information.  Isn't it a fantastic feeling when you see the names of your ancestors - it makes them feel so real - have got tingles on the back of my neck reading this!!
Thanks everyone.
Kellie
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Mort29 on Tuesday 01 February 11 10:39 GMT (UK)
Its a pleasure to help - good luck with further research on both sides  :)
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: ladixonaustralia on Tuesday 31 May 11 13:30 BST (UK)
Hi Kellie

I reckon I am probably a 3rd cousin to you or something like that. My grandma was Elizabeth Francis, whose sister was Violet Francis who married your Ernie Storry. I think my mum Marlene Dixon (born Rogers) knows your dad and calls him her cousin John (was his sister Molly?). I also have a wedding photo of Aunty Vi (as we called her) and Ernie. Do get in touch offline - I'm at *

Lareen Newman (nee Dixon), Adelaide

* Moderator comment:  email address removed - please use the Personal Messaging system to exchange emails etc. :) *
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 31 May 11 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi ladixonaustralia,

You willl probably find that a moderator will remove your email address

you would be best sending a personal message via the PM system, click on the green schroll then you can send a messsage to essexfamily (Kellie) nobody else can view email address  :)

Essexfamily you may need to make one more post to use PM system

you can delete your email address via the modify button in the top hand corner
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: ladixonaustralia on Wednesday 01 June 11 04:35 BST (UK)
thanks for the helpful advice, I am a novice at using RootChat !! Will follow your suggestions.
Title: Re: Complete beginner, needing help please!
Post by: Essexfamily on Friday 03 June 11 12:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for the advice - we're now in touch and swapping photos!
K.