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Title: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: onebaldk on Sunday 30 January 11 16:21 GMT (UK)
Hi
am new to this stuff

am looking for a Henry Kersey C1835, in various census records his place of birth is Suffolk, or Framingham, his father from his marriage cert is also Henry a bailiff
any ideas as to where to go next would be helpful
connections with Henry Kersey in Framsden & Old Newton Suffolk have proved to be a blind alley 
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Sunday 30 January 11 18:07 GMT (UK)
Hello there and welcome to Rootschat  ;)

I have checked baptisms for St Michael's parish church from 1832 to 1840 and there are no baptisms for the name Kersey at all.

In 1844 Miss Maria Kersey was living in Castle Street - she is listed in White's in the 'prominent people listing' under Fram and Mr Robert Kersey was listed as Farmer (farm bailiff?) at Great Lodge farm.

As Fram had/has many non-conformist chapels, it is likely they were members of one of these?

Kersey is not a name I have really heard of in Fram at this time (a time in Fram's history that I am very familiar with  :)

Pat ...

http://framlinghamarchive.org.uk

Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Sunday 30 January 11 18:19 GMT (UK)
Will ask a moderator to move you as you have come through in the Links and resources pages, you need to be in Look Up Requests  :D

Pat ...

Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 30 January 11 18:24 GMT (UK)
did he marry an elizabeth
if so he is on the 1871 census
do you have or want the full entry for the 1871 census
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: suffolk*sue on Sunday 30 January 11 20:05 GMT (UK)
Are you sure you don't mean FRAMSDEN.

There is a Henry Kersey and family in Framsden in 1841, including a young Henry of about the right age.

HO107; Piece 1038; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Framsden;

From the Suffolk Marriage Index

Henry P. Kersey of Framsden
Ann Peck
6th July, 1825
Winston


Just seen your original post, what makes you think the Framsden Kerseys aren't the right ones?
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: onebaldk on Sunday 30 January 11 21:29 GMT (UK)
amazed at how quickly you all respond :)

the info on baptist, non conformist of Framlingham is a avenue i will pursue ,

Henry did in fact marry a Elizabeth from Baumaris in wales.

The connection with Henry Pells kersey of Framsden turned out incorrect as his son Henry emigrated to America, married a Ann Kinney and died 1890 in Nevada,

The Henry i am looking for moved to London and died in 1904 Bexley kent
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: wozzle on Monday 31 January 11 15:12 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Hephzibah on Monday 31 January 11 19:02 GMT (UK)
Unitarian Meeting House, prev. Dissenters Meeting House Framlingham has 11 Kersey baptisms in the 18th century but none in the 19th century...living Framlingham Saxted and Monewden. One, Henry, baptised 1779 was from Monewden.

Hephzibah.
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 31 January 11 23:33 GMT (UK)
Good owd gal Hephzibah  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Hephzibah on Tuesday 01 February 11 13:58 GMT (UK)
Forgot to mention, my transcripts only go up to June 1837.

and to Suffolkmawther -
Not so much of the owd ...not inta th' arternune.. yet!!!!
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: onebaldk on Tuesday 01 February 11 20:12 GMT (UK)
many thanks to you all for  your contributions,
 looks like its not going to be easy to find the Henry connections. i have just been thinking that as he is always recorded in the censuses as coming from Framingham or Suffolk, it may be a misspelling of Framlingham or possible that he came from Norfolk, possibly Framingham Earl ?

Onebaldk
Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Tuesday 01 February 11 22:12 GMT (UK)
I think it would be well worth while to follow up the non-conformist route.  Framlingham had several non conformist chapels and a large part of the cemetery is for burials of non conformists.  The period you are looking at is a time of great changes in Fram and a trend to leave the established church for something new.

Pat ...
Title: Re: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: Dulverton on Wednesday 05 September 12 21:11 BST (UK)
A Henry Kersey (1754-1814) a farmer was renting land in Framsden from the Dysart family.

Wife was Elizabeth Kersey (1767-1837) (nee Barker?) Married 1795

Their grandson Henry Kersey (1834-1897) emigrated to Nevada, Story Co, Iowa, USA

There were other Kersey familys farming in Debenham, Framlingham, Wetheringsett & Wickham Skeith in the late 18th century.

For any missing family names living in the area I suggest that you look in the 1832 Poll Book under the "Framlingham" heading

Title: Re: Framlingham, Kersey families
Post by: Dulverton on Thursday 06 September 12 15:35 BST (UK)
amazed at how quickly you all respond :)

the info on baptist, non conformist of Framlingham is a avenue i will pursue ,

Henry did in fact marry a Elizabeth from Baumaris in wales.

The connection with Henry Pells kersey of Framsden turned out incorrect as his son Henry emigrated to America, married a Ann Kinney and died 1890 in Nevada,

The Henry i am looking for moved to London and died in 1904 Bexley kent


Have you looked at Ancestry?


Henry Robert Kersey
Birth10 Dec 1835 in Framingham, Suffolk, England
DeathDec 1904 in Dartford, Kent, United Kingdom

Son of Henry Pells Kersey

Married to a Welsh girl called Elizabeth

Is this coincidence a fickle finger of fate? A perfect match methinks!
Why the rejection?
Title: KERSEY Family
Post by: Dulverton on Tuesday 11 October 16 15:01 BST (UK)
There were members of the Kersey family living in the Framlingham & Saxtead area during the 18th century. A John & Mary Kersey (nee Bennett), had 5 children, 3 of whom were born in Framlingham. A son Thomas, who married Mary Gissing, was born in Cotton, Suffolk. It appears that after leaving Framlingham some of the family moved back to the Cotton, & Wickham Skeith area of Suffolk.

Thomas & Mary, had seven children, 2 born Wickham Skeith, 3 born in Framlingham and 2 girls born in nearby Great Glemham in 1802 & 1803. Their daughter Mary (born 1797) married Charles Edwards at Great Glemham in 1817.
Frances Kersey of Debenham, wife of John Edwards were the great-grandparents of Charles Edwards!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: hookleg on Saturday 15 October 16 07:00 BST (UK)
Thomas Kersey 1762-1837 (Wickham Skeith) and Mary Gissing 1765-? (Cotton) from my tree.
Title: Re: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: hookleg on Saturday 15 October 16 07:10 BST (UK)
Apologies for the size of the photos. Could Dulverton  give any extra info about John and Mary Kersey(Nee Bennett) please?
Title: Re: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: jkgla on Saturday 15 October 16 19:33 BST (UK)
One of my ancestors was Lydia Kersey (of Fakenham) who married William Able at Bromswell (near Ipswich) 13 Oct 1777. The family were generally non-conformist.

I wonder if there is any link?
Title: Re: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: Dulverton on Sunday 16 October 16 12:01 BST (UK)
One of my ancestors was Lydia Kersey (of Fakenham) who married William Able at Bromswell (near Ipswich) 13 Oct 1777. The family were generally non-conformist.

I wonder if there is any link?
Thank you for your mailing. You should be aware that "Bromswell" is now usually spelt as "Bromeswell" and that it is nearer to Woodbridge (2 miles) & Grundisburgh  (say Grunsbora!) (6 miles) than Ipswich (12 miles).
I am not aware of the Able family link, but I do know that the Framlingham & Woodbridge families were non-conformists. I also know that that a Abel/Able family lived in the Falkenham area of Suffolk, I am not aware of any link with the family that was living in Fakenham, Norfolk!
The other problem I have is that the given name of "Lydia" was very common within the Kersey family - daughters as well as wives!
Here are some "Kersey" events that occurred not too far away from Bromeswell.

Thomas & Lydia Kersey - d Lydia baptised Wetheringsett 12/5/1785
Joseph & Lydia Kersey - d Lydia baptised Woodbridge 6 /3/1764
John or Robert? & Mary Kersey (nee Bennett) - d Lydia baptised Framlingham 25/6/1748
John Newson & Lydia Kersey - married Charsfield 19/4/1781
Edward Bayley Cullum & Lydia Kersey - married Iken 11/10/1832

Are you aware that the biggest clusters of the Kersey families were living in the Debenham, Mendlesham & Wickham Skeith areas of Suffolk? A smaller lot in Great Glemham, Saxtead, Framlingham, Lowestoft & Lakenheath.

Title: Re: Framlingham, KERSEY Families
Post by: jkgla on Wednesday 19 October 16 21:52 BST (UK)
Hi!

One letter can lead to confusion..
Any information welcome.

'My'Lydia Kersey came from FALKENHAM, Suffolk (between Woodbridge & Felixstowe)

These notes are all I know about her - but may be sufficient to link her in with other local Kerseys (who seem to be profligate!)

Marriage
13 Oct 1777, William Able m Lydia Kersey of FALKENHAM, Suffolk at Bromswell, Suffolk
(Source: Suffolk FHS)
   
Their daughter, Lydia Abel, was born at Hollesley, Suffolk c 1785 (1851 Census)

Possibly Lydia Kersey, dau Robert & Mary Kersey, b 19 June 1748, bapt 25th June 1748 (but maybe a bit old to be marrying in 1777)

Several Kerseys at Bromswell (see FindMyPast Suffolk baptisms), inc James Able, son John & Elzabeth Able, bapt 15 Feb 1756, who could be Lydia's brother-in-law
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Lydia Abel (nee Kersey) is mentioned in the will of Joseph Kersey of Dallinghoe, Suffolk,
however relationships are not included, and there seem to be a pretty mixed bunch of testees.
 
Name       Joseph Kersey
Accession No   
Date written   9 Aug 1813
Date proved   10 May 1815
Value      
Occupation   Gentleman
Abode      Dallinghoe (Dallinghoo), Suffolk
Places      
Details      Cousin, Caleb Kersey of Hadleigh, Suffolk, farmer
      Minister/churchwardens of Marlesford (Suffolk), ditto Earl Soham (Suffolk)
      Servant, Ann Rose
      Cousin, Richard Kersey of Debenham, Suffolk
Late wife, Lydia
Cousins, Peter Kersey the elder, Rebecca Veasay, Joshua Kersey, Henry Kersey, Frances Kersey, the said Caleb Kersey and unto George Kersey, Elizabeth Kersey, Richard Kersey and Ann Kersey sons and daughters of my late brother-in-law George Kersey deceased and also unto Peter Steptoe John Steptoe, Mary Daines, Lydia Abel, Elizabeth Marriot, Mary Pizzey, Robert Brown, Benjamin Brown, Rose Wells and Jonathan Capon or to such of them who shall be living at the time of my decease equally to be divided among them share and share alike
Executors   Caleb Kersey, Peter Steptoe and second cousin Jonathan Daines
Witnesses   William Shuldham, Mary Shuldham, Joseph Cook