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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: Ditta on Sunday 30 January 11 13:05 GMT (UK)
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I have just begun researching my family history, my Great Grandad's name was Samuel Cammish, born in 1850, married to Jane. He was the tin smith in Quay Street, Scarborough, and lived in Trafalgar Street East. Has anyone on the forum any info/connections with this name. Thanks.
Ditta
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do you have the censuses for him
in 1881 his occ is turner and gas fitter
he is living at 37, trafalgar street east
if you do not have the censuses and want the full entries then i will post them here
his wife's name was jane cattle
and they married in 1876 in scarborough
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also think he was probably the son of william/mary cammish
fathers occ was shoemaker
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there is a death of a samuel cammish aged 81
in 1931 in scarborough reg dist possibly yours
and also a death of a jane cammish in 1925 in scarborough reg dist aged 70
which tallies with the 1901 census for samuel/jane
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Thanks for this information Wozzle, you have told me things I didn't know, and so quick too. Yes, you are spot on, this is the right Samuel Cammish, and my family roots. I appreciate your help.
Ditta
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I remember a tinsmith in Quay st in the early/mid 1950s, called "Tinner Sam" Cammish, and among other things such as "duck lamps"was noted for making very primitive but effective bilge pumps. What was his workshop premises are still there.
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Thanks for message Appleby, yes, another 'Tinner Sam' was working in the same workshop that my Great Grandfather Samuel Cammish had previously used -- I met someone who said when he was a young boy he used to go and watch a 'Tinner Sam' (during the 1950's) at work in Quay Street, but I am having problems finding out who this Tinner Sam was, (obviously the same one you mention who worked until the 1950's I think in Quay Street) and what his connection was to my Great Grandad (the original Tinner Sam) - as no-one in my family has ever mentioned this one - I was also told he had an American wife who worked alongside him in his workshop. Very interesting to read your posting - thanks. I've recently been down to Quay Street trying to work out exactly which premises belonged to my Great Grandfather.
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There was a welder/blacksmith in Quay st, in the mid 1960s, and he did have an american wife.
His name was Bob Goodall and his wife was Harriet,
Harriet was an able welder who, I was told, learned her skills welding liberty ships during WW2.
They worked from the premises now occupied by Northern Marine Electrics.
tinner sam worked from behind the Ivy House.
The Fley Cammish's connect into our tree tho 5 generations back.
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Appleby, that's good information and has cleared up the puzzle re this Samuel Cammish who, from the info you have kindly given me, worked in Quay Street till the 1950's, and now I know that the man with an American wife was nothing to do with my family, which was really confusing me.
So now I must do some tracing back to try to find out what relation the Samuel Cammish (who worked in the tin smith's till the 1950's) was to my Great Grandfather Samuel, (d.o.b. 1850) I am now wondering if he was a grandson.
I've managed to trace back to a great, great, great Grandmother Ann Cammish, born in 1791 and her seven children, fishermen and shoemakers seems to have been some of the family trades, and of course tin smiths. I'm related to the Scarborough Cammish families and have gone back five generations so far. It's so interesting........but time consuming!
Thanks again for taking the time to explain re Bob Goodall and his American wife, I think the person who told me they were one and the same had sort of merged the two characters together over the years!
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Appleby, forgot to say - I think the Cammish name originated in Filey, probably centuries ago.
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A bit more information on the tinner sam that I remember.
Im told that he was a big noise, (lol), in the town silver band, as was his father.
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Haha!! :) Lovely, that's nice information Appleby and ties in with a memory my older sister has of being taken into the town centre in Scarborough when she was little, with my mother not long after the finish of WW2 - and a band was playing there and my mother told my sister that one of our relatives was in the band.
I went to Scarborough library this morning as they have a help desk if you are researching your Yorkshire ancestry, and they were very helpful and I even managed to get more information on my Great Grandad Samuel. Now I have to discover whose son the Samuel Cammish was who worked in Quay Street till the 1950's, but I have been given more leads into where to look for that which is a big help.
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I don't know if you have this already, but this is the Cammish tinsmith on Spread Eagle Lane.
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Spread Eagle lane is right at the very end of Quay Street
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Quay Scarborough, thanks for putting this photo on of my Great-Grandad Samuel Cammish's workshop, it's such a clear picture, I would love to know if Samuel is amongst the group in the photo, I guess he must be.
I have a copy of this picture, but it is very hazy compared to this photo you've put on, and on this one we can even read the sign, which is great, on my photo that's just a blur.
Thanks again for putting it on here. :)
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To be honest I think the queue is for next door which was the Spread Eagle pub :)
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Quay Scarborough, from the look of these people, and the relaxed way they are standing, I think they have already been to the Spread Eagle Pub ;)