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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: dobfarm on Friday 28 January 11 18:58 GMT (UK)
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Hi everybody.
I'm now 60 and my mother had me at 42 years old in 1950! She was born 1908 died 1995 aged 87 and her dad born 1867 who died age 90 in 1957 who I remember. Mums granddad died in 1920 age 76 who she remembered well- born 1844-my great granddad! In 2011 I still can't get my head around that mum talked to someone born 1844
His there anyone who can go futher back in two/three generations
Dave
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Hi There. I am 48yr in 2 days time. I have a 6yr old granddaughter. My grandmothers husband (my grandfather) is still going strong at 80yrs. So if effect my granddaughter has a grandmother (me) and great grandmother (my mum) and a great great grandfather (my grandad) all alive and well. Thats 5 generations all at once.
Tracie xx
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Hi
I am 69yrs young!!! and on my dads side of the family there was my dad 1910-1984 his Dad 1873-1944 & Mum 1885-1958(my Gd parents)His Gd father 1855-1949.Gd mother 1863-1953(my Gt Gd parents) I can remember speaking to most of them very clearly with great affection (except only very slightly of Gd 1873-1944 as I was only 3 at the time.
Kathy
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Hi There. I am 48yr in 2 days time. I have a 6yr old granddaughter. My grandmothers husband (my grandfather) is still going strong at 80yrs. So if effect my granddaughter has a grandmother (me) and great grandmother (my mum) and a great great grandfather (my grandad) all alive and well. Thats 5 generations all at once.
Tracie xx
Happy birthday in two days,
Your grandaughter will need a calculator to work that sum out. It's known for people to live to a 110!! so if your granddauaghter is married in 20 years time or less with her own children and Gt x two Grandfather now aged 80 years old is still alive things will be complicated
Dave :)
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Hi
I am 69yrs young!!! and on my dads side of the family there was my dad 1910-1984 his Dad 1873-1944 & Mum 1885-1958(my Gd parents)His Gd father 1855-1949.Gd mother 1863-1953(my Gt Gd parents) I can remember speaking to most of them very clearly with great affection (except only very slightly of Gd 1873-1944 as I was only 3 at the time.
Kathy
Hi Kathy
That would blow my mind completely
Dave
Ps -I can't answer every post reply! so will leave this thread open read only for all interested in the subject now!!! to relate their own family history for general interest of for all to read............. :D
"I remember a joke! of a door to door salesman who to charm a lady in her sixties for a sale asked if her mum was in. She shouted Granny is mum in! no she gone to visit her Gran. The salesman just sat on the curb counting his fingers."
Dave
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Hi There. I am 48yr in 2 days time.
Happy birthday, I guess we share the same day, but you're a whole year older than me!
Interesting thread, which got me thinking. I remember, as a very young child, meeting my great grandmother who was born in 1876. Great grandma's dad was born 1836, so I've spoken to someone who talked to someone born 175 years ago! That's pretty amazing.
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Hi There. I am 48yr in 2 days time.
Happy birthday, I guess we share the same day, but you're a whole year older than me!
Interesting thread, which got me thinking. I remember, as a very young child, meeting my great grandmother who was born in 1876. Great grandma's dad was born 1836, so I've spoken to someone who talked to someone born 175 years ago! That's pretty amazing.
I can see there could be someone alive!! with a good memory! who's direct grandparents they talked! and they in turn had talked too someone born in the very late 1700's
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Well, I'm currently 62, and my father wasn't even born in the previous century ! He was born in 1898. He was 50 when I was born.
If he were to be alive today, he would be 113 in November ! :o
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My dad died aged 101 in 1999. I have a photo of him aged 2, holding his grandfather's hand outside the family shop; this grandfather of his was born in 1833.
The company who gave me a mortgage when I was about 60 reckon that with my genes I should live to be at least 90! ::)
Dawn M
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What fantastic family history Nick and Billy! :D you both have, to me this brings ancestry a live so to speak and not just dates in a tree as ones family history crosses centuries. :)
Dave
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Dave - I'm a little younger than you but we also go in for "long generations". Mum, still going, only knew one of her grandparents - he was born 1845 and died when she was in her teens.
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Sadly I only remember my Mum's parents, as Dad's mother died when I was 3 months old and his father had died 20 years earlier.
But my Dad, born 1917, was very fond of his Mum's mother, who was born 1843. She died in 1926.
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I was born in 1940, my father in 1899, my grand father in or before 1828, and my great grandfather in 1798. I was born 112 years at least after my grandfather, and my younger brother 117 years after him. Other threads last years suggested that we were only 3rd or 4th in the list of longest intervals.
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My nieces have grand-parents, a great grandma, and a great-great-grandma living.
My grandad born in 1906 used to talk about HIS great-grandma Jane who was born in 1835 and died in 1916.
What was the expression someone used on WDYTYA?
" I have held the hand of someone who held the hand of a person born almost 2 centuaries before me" (or words to that effect)
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My great, great uncle who is 92 talked about his grandad born in 1848.
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My grandmother b1872 talked of her grandmother who brought her up b c1830. Her mother had died when she (my gran) was 8.
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Hi There. I am 48yr in 2 days time. I have a 6yr old granddaughter. My grandmothers husband (my grandfather) is still going strong at 80yrs. So if effect my granddaughter has a grandmother (me) and great grandmother (my mum) and a great great grandfather (my grandad) all alive and well. Thats 5 generations all at once.
Tracie xx
my family also had 5 generations living at one time , my GGrandmother,GMother,Mother,Sister and her daughter . my GGrandmother was born 1884 and passed in 1978 and I loved speaking with her .
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I can just remember my Great grandmother she was born in 1861 and died in 1947.She was always dressed in deep mourning although her husband had passed away in 1912.
Liz
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My maternal gran was born in 1877 and I knew her, she died aged only 72.
My mum was born a couple of years after her paternal grandmother and grandfather, and her paternal g.grandmother and her maternal grandmother died. She didn't know them but her older siblings did and used to talk about them. One was born in 1826, two in 1843 and the other in 1847. So I can say that my aunts and uncles spoke to someone born in 1826. I have a photo of the one born in 1847, aged about 10.
Lizzie
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My 2XGGMother appears on her grand daughter's wedding photo taken in 1896. It amazes me to think that this lady is the 4XGGM of my own grand daughter. On the paternal side (the slooooow breeding side) I don't even know my 3XGGM for certain.
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How about someone in my family who remembers their grandmother who was born in 1830 and died in 1915, when they were 14 years old. They are about to celebrate their 110th birthday next month. :D
Jebber
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We had a family friend, Eileen, sadly not with us any more.
Eileen knew my Mum when they were both children.
My mum was priveledged to have known her own great grandmother (1849-1933) for a few years, Mum must have been about 7 when she died. Eileen had met Mum's great granny.
And she met Mums grandparents too
Obviously Eileen also knew Mum's parents,
and Mum.
Then in turn she knew Mum's children.
And grandchildren
And, although my mum died fairly young (62) Eileen (who just as an aside married my Dad and became my step mum!) lived to see Mum and dad's great grandchildren start arriving.
So, Eileen had met 7 generations of my family!
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So far, I have known 5 generations of my own family, one grandmother, both parents, my brother, my son and daughter, and my grand daughter. Hope to make it 6 generations, but fear life expectancy is against me.
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I've known 5 generations too, that is 2 grandmothers, my parents, my brothers, my children and my grandchildren. As the eldest grandchildren are 20 and 18, it's highly likely that I will know their children too, (in about another 10-20 years) ::) making 6 generations. My mum lived to be nearly 96, and died when her eldest g.grandchild was 17, so I'm hoping to last at least that long, given that at 70 I don't have the chronic illnesses she had, ie hypertension, chronic obstructive airways disease and heart problems.
Lizzie
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Though my mother was 99, it is I believe the gender that counts. If I follow my father, I have less than 2 years to go, although I don't have diabetes, not was i wounded or gassed in the war, so I may have something of a better chance than I thought.
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I believe the gender that counts
Thankfully, my husband has passed the age at which his father died which was 57. However my OH does not (and never did) drink 6 bottles of Guinness each evening and smoke over 40 cigarettes a day. :o
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I believe the gender that counts
Thankfully, my husband has passed the age at which his father died which was 57. However my OH does not (and never did) drink 6 bottles of Guinness each evening and smoke over 40 cigarettes a day. :o
The adverts say that life style makes you live to 102! Never believe the marketing people.
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Red
The statisticians say you live to somewhere between the ages your parents lived to. So you might make it to 98! ;D
Dawn M
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On my Dad's side. they tended to marry late and have children late, so my Grandad was born in 1874, even though I'm not 60 yet! His grandad was born in 1794 and that's quite incredible to me.... my grandad's grandad was pretty nearly an adult 200 years ago.....
PS Great grandad, to go back to the start of the thread, was born in 1834....
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Angela, My grandfather was born around 1828. I am 71 now, he was around 112 when I was born. My great grandfather was born around 1798, and his father my 2XGGF in 1776. Not back any further with certainty yet. We are very sloooooow breeders. I have 2 generations missing and at the speed of most families would have appeared arounf 1880 (in another guise).On my mother's side, all the women live into their 90s, and the men into their late 80s. So, if I am lucky I might make 80.I don't mind going, but I want to finish my tree first.
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My goodness, Redroger :o And I thought my father's family were very slow breeders ;D
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I was 112 years younger than my grandfather, my brother is 117 years younger.There was a thread about this last year, expect it's gone now as it was on the off topic board, we only came third and 4th respectively in the list. Another Roots chatter beat us by around 5 years.
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Redroger, You are obviously planning to be around for a long time, since our trees are never ending. :D
I can top your 2x great grandfather, one of my great grandfathers was baptised 26 August 1789, his father my 2XGG was baptised 22 February 1759 and I have yet to hit 70. ;D
jebber
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Congratulations! My lot slowed down in the 19th and early 20th century, my brother and I tried to rectify things in the 1960s aged 25 and 21, but my daughter aged 38, 41 when grandaughter born, and son 41 and still single (just about!) have slowed things down again.
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My dad was born in 1933, and his great grandmother died a month later, though she got to cuddle him in that month. She was born in 1851. My son was born in 2007, so he's had cuddles from someone who had cuddles from someone born 156 years before he was. I often think about that and how awesome it is...
However, on my son's paternal side, there are age gaps of 47, 33, 42, 42 and 32 years between each step of those male genes! There's a fourty year difference between 3xgreat grandparents there!
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My great grandmother was born in 1844. I was born in 1982.
That's a difference of 138 years, or 46 a generation.
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I was also born in 1982. July. My oldest great grandparent was born in 1880 so nothing like 1844. But I still have a great, great uncle who is 92. My great grans youngest brother. His nan died in 1926 and was born late 1847 so he remembers her vaguely.
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I think people born in the 1980's should be excluded from the competition ..... women had children later in life in those days :)
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I think not Nick. And this is no "competition".
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Sort of along the lines of the topic - I know a lady who is only 55, and her father was in the Boer War! He fathered her in his 70's, her mother being in her 40's.
Les
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I think people born in the 1980's should be excluded from the competition ..... women had children later in life in those days :)
Ah...my mother was a teenage mother with her first child and 24 with me, her last. Yet, my father's mother was 42 when she had him, and my grandfather's mother was 43 at his birth. Her mother in turn had her last child at 44.
I would suggest that though women do start having children later now, in the past they continued having children until it was no longer physically possible simply because they had no choice. The lack of women's rights and contraception is the reason my grandmother had 14 children over 28 years.
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Some women had their last baby at about 50. I think just before the menopause some women become more fertile and when they think it is safe they become pregnant again.
My 3xgreat grandmother was born to a 51 year old mother although I do have an inkling she may have been an illegitimate grandchild.
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My 3xgreat grandmother was born to a 51 year old mother although I do have an inkling she may have been an illegitimate grandchild.
Researching rural 19th century Cambridgeshire suggest either there were a lot of women in their late forties who made a mistake, or given the number of housholds where there was an unmarried daughter in her late teens at the time of the birth suspect the grandchild thesis is the most likely.
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My one happened in Shoreditch, London. She was given an elder sisters first name as a middle name and her elder sister later had kids out of wedlock who I have found she lied on the certs.
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I was born in 1987, but only met one great grandparent. He was born in 1915 and died in 1998. The rest were dead before I was born. The earliest born was my great granda Strachan, born in 1891.
When considering my Grandfather though - he was born in 1936, his father was born in 1899, his father born in 1844 and his father born in 1815. Sadly he didn't meet either his grandfather or great grandfather as they died in 1910 and 1890 respectively. His grandmother was born in 1865 (21 years younger than her husband), and died in 1953. Sadly he can remember nothing about her, except her funeral (the funeral was at Pennan, and he heard the bangs indicating that the Fraserburgh Lifeboat had been launched. That was the day of the 1953 Fraserburgh Lifeboat disaster).
There are five generations in my sister's husband's family. The newest born in 2010, her mother in 1992, her father in 1974, his mother in 1948 and her mother in 1922.
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I am comimg up to 80yrs and Granddad was born in 1866. His grandfather was born in 1808 and died in 1897.
Although he died when I was 7yrs. I was his his only granchild and spent a lot of time with him.
His one abiding first childhood memory was being only about a year to 18 months old and being taken to the last public hanging. Not that he knew what it was then, but just remembered being on his fathers shoulders and the dreadful noise of the crowds. His memories of his childhood with his grandad were in his butchers stall a London Market (Smithfield?) were much clearer than those of his own father who died in 1871 .
Spring
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Fits well enough with the dates as I believe the last public hanging in the Uk took place in 1868.
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One of my grandmothers was born in 1877. She died in 1950 before I was born. Her parents, my great grandparents, were born in 1832 and 1833.
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My Gran who was born in 1920 remebered talking to her gran who was born in 1840
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I remember as a kid reading an entry in the Guinness Book of Records (this will have been an edition from the 1980s sometime) that documented the death of the last known person in the UK whose parent was born in the 18th century. The woman in question died shortly before the GBoR edition was published, having been born getting on for 100 years earlier, to a man in his 70s who was born in 1799.
The GBoR has (IMV) become a lot less user-friendly since most of it went online and a quick stab at a Google search fails to find anything relevant, but I may not be using the right search terms.
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I have an older friend in his 70's who had a grandparent born in the house that is now toured as William Shakespeare's birth place, this was in the early 1850's.
Quite something to be able to pay to see your own grandparents birth place ;D
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I remember as a kid reading an entry in the Guinness Book of Records (this will have been an edition from the 1980s sometime) that documented the death of the last known person in the UK whose parent was born in the 18th century. The woman in question died shortly before the GBoR edition was published, having been born getting on for 100 years earlier, to a man in his 70s who was born in 1799.
If I live to 140+ I might be in with a chance of being the last known person whose parent was born in the 19th century as my father was born in 1899.
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I am still a great, great nephew. :)
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My youngest paternal great great uncle was born in 1809.
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None of my grandparents siblings are alive but 1 great grandparent sibling is. Amazing. The great grandmother died in 1953.
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Sorry Roger, I beat you on both counts - my father was born in 1898, and my g.g. grandfather was born in 1804 :)
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My father is just 62 (his youngest sibling is 60). Their father was born in 1887, and their oldest great great grandparent was born in 1771.
They also have half-siblings (still living!) whose (probable) father was born in 1866, and whose oldest great great grandparent was born in 1762.
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What is the gap between yourself and your grandfather? In my case (see above) my grandfather was born around 1828, and his father born 1798.The gapbetween myself and my grandfather is 112 years. In effect I have two generations missing.
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My great great aunty died in 1991 when I was 9. Her great grandad was born in 1777 so still not hard to beat.
Her grandad was born in 1813. He would have been 91 when she was born in 1904.
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What is the gap between yourself and your grandfather? In my case (see above) my grandfather was born around 1828, and his father born 1798.The gapbetween myself and my grandfather is 112 years. In effect I have two generations missing.
Only 95 years, which isn't much as my father brought it down; he has 104 between him and his grandmother. My cousin must really hold the record though, as if his grandfather is who we believe, there is a gap of 116 years: 1866 to 1982.
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Sorry to sound nosey, what month in 1982 were you born Emine? Mine is July that year.
The ancestor born in 1777 had a granddaughter born in 1877.
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There is a living relative on my tree who was born in 1951.
Her mother was born in 1912.
Her father was born in 1841 (71 years old when the above was born).
His father was born in 1800.
Thats probably the best my tree can offer.
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What is the gap between yourself and your grandfather? In my case (see above) my grandfather was born around 1828, and his father born 1798.The gapbetween myself and my grandfather is 112 years. In effect I have two generations missing.
I was born in 1948.
My father was born in 1898.
My grandfather was born 1863.
My g. grandfather was born 1835.
My g.g. grandfather was born 1804.
So the gap between me and my grandfather is only 85 years.
All the men from my grandfather backwards were bricklayers, whose life expectancy wasn't very good. My dad died at the age of 85 - my g.g. grandfather only managed 57.
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My great, great, great grandad died in 1898, the year your dad was born Nick.
A lot of my Durham rellies had children later in life. One of my Scottish ancestors had my 4xgreat grandad in Durham in 1800 when he was 62. And that son had his last child in 1846 so a gap of 108 years between grandad and grandson.
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My father was born in 1899, his youngest great grandchild, my granddaughter was born in 2007, 108 years later; however his father, my grandfather was born no later than 1828, 112 years before his oldest grandson (me) was born. A missing generation at least!
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I have an ancestor who was born in 1794. His dad was born in 1750 and his youngest daughter was born in 1860. Her great grandad was born in 1717. 143 years between great grandad and great granddaughter.
Her oldest half brother was 42 years older than her yet the same generation. Amazing. So I could be on the same generation level as someone born in 1940 if we had the same father.
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its a very interesting thread. My OH has a gran born 1916 still living. we have just become grandparents last week so there is now 5 generations alive. the gran still living can remember her gran well because though born 1853 she lived until 1954.
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Sounds as though the current gran has a good chance of beating the 1853-1954 record.
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gran was one of ten - about 7 of which lived to be at least 90. her own mother lived till 90's as well as the record by grans gran. just hoping that the genes from this side have passed down the family. unfortunately on my side the average age is much much lower.
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If she was your maternal grandmother then my understanding is you will carry her genes.
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unfortunately it is OH maternal side. so dont know whether they will pass down to the children etc
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I went to see my great, great uncle yesterday.