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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: rcg1983 on Thursday 27 January 11 18:25 GMT (UK)
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i am trying to trace the birth certificate of my great great grandfather, john turner lee richards. born in 1869, died 1935. the first time he exist is when he married susan jane george in 1892. in the 1901 census he puts his birth place as redruth. i know he was a gardener and in 1911 he was an insurance agent. when he died he was a road sweeper as he was looking after my grandma as her parents died when she was 2. the reason he took her in when her parents was because he was adpoted by neighbours. can anyone help?
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Do you have a copy of his marriage cert showing his fathers name?
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Yes i have the marriage certificate, but no father's name
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Hi in the 1881 Census their is a John Lees Richards aged 10 in the Redruth Union Workhouse, shown as Pupil, along with many other residents is an Emily Richards aged 33 with 2 daughters Elizabeth Ann 13 and Eliza Jane 7, Emily is with Elizabeth on the 1871 shown as unmarried, if this is your John the task would seem to be finding where the Turner part of his name came from?
Census Ref for Workhouse RG11/2333/126/8
Keyboard86
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The Cornwall OPC site has appointed a new OPC for Redruth in the last few weeks and she has been sent lots of records for the town. Why dont you go to the site and contact her - Julie Wheeler.
Fizzy
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Hi
I googled John's name and found this:
He was born on 31/12/1869. So He would have been registered in 1st quarter 1870.
I wonder if this could be him:
Male Richards
Mar q 1870
Redruth
Vol 5c pg 248
Who was he adopted by?
deb
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Where did you find that he was born 31/12/1869.
If he was then why wasnt he on the census with Emily and Elizabeth Ann in 1871 ?
Fizzy
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Fizzy
I googled his name and found a message board on ancestry by rcg1983 ..
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I am looking for any information on john turner lee richards. He is my great great grandfather.
He brought up my grandma as both her parents died when she was 2. The story behind why they were willing to look after her was because his parents had died when he was young and his parents friends brought him up.
He was born on 31/12/1869, but cannot find a birth certificate and only turns up in records once married and all cenus after.
deb
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I wonder how they know his exact date of birth if there is no birth certificate ?
Perhaps he didnt belong to Emily and girls in the workhouse after all.
Fizzy
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Fizzy
I can't find Elizabeth and Emily in 1871 do you have the ref number?
deb
Ps I was also thinking that Maybe John Lees Richards may not have been connected to EMily as he is further down the page and not transcribed with them.
deb
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Dont have a ref number but they are in Phillack.
If John was born 1869 then why is he not there ?
Fizzy
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In 1871 born Redruth
There is a John Richards s/o John and Emma b 1870 age 1 Redruth
also John Richards s/o Charles and Jane 9 months
will have to check through
deb
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a question:
Who were the witnesses to John Turner Lee Richards' marriage?
deb
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I wonder how they know his exact date of birth if there is no birth certificate ?
Perhaps he didnt belong to Emily and girls in the workhouse after all.
Fizzy
Hi apologies, I should have said on same page is an Emily etc!
Keyboard86
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He always celebrated that dad according to my grand who lived with him.
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He always celebrated that dad according to my grand who lived with him.
I'm not awfully sure, but could that reply have been intended for this thread :
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,605438.0.html
Pels.