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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: tempogold on Thursday 27 January 11 14:42 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to trace William Henry Mitchell of Glasgow a merchant. I know he was connected to Mitchell and Berry co--sorry don't have an address---it may not even be in Scotland. But in 1889 he was trustee for his bother in laws estate (George Hurst) in fermanagh--alas we have no address for him. In 1894/5 his address is 21 bread Street London --but he is not on the 1901 census. We next find him in 1909 when a parcel with a compliments slip --but with no address is sent to distant relatives in Fermanagh ,Ireland.
Any ides on how to trace him or the company would be appreciated.
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Hi Catheyt
If he was brother in law to George Hurst, have you managed to trace George Hurst's wife's family. Might help with any searches for William Henry Mitchell if you know his aprrox. birth year and place :)
Monica
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No. We know when my great grandmother Margaret Mitchell married George Hurst in Fermanagh and the name of her father from the marriage cert. Also know her age from census and death cert but knothing of her family.The church they married in has no records available before 1860--so a blank there. And while we know the land her father farmed it was only for a few years. A search gave no leads.Mitchell was quite popular as a surname in ireland at the time. A search on emerald ancestors did not come up with a birth record for any Margaret Mitchell b around 1854 .So it all suggegts the family came from another Townland--either near Fermanagh(the most likely) or from else were. Georges will talks only of W H Mitchell of Glasgow. The address we turned up latter on other documents.Have a feeling we will never know but always worth asking.
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Hi Catheyt
I had a look on
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
using wild cards did a search for william henry m*t*l from 1909 to 1960 and I got the following deaths:
1 1923 MITCHELL WILLIAM HENRY M 72 BOTHWELL /LANARK 625/01 0016
2 1935 MITCHELL WILLIAM HENRY M 81 MARYHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12 0003
3 1939 MITCHELL WILLIAM HENRY M 67 SPRINGBURN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 1492
4 1953 MITCHELL WILLIAM HENRY M 85 MARYHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12 0073
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Hi all
just to be aware that a parallel thread is ..............
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509970.0.html
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Thank you both. The death records 1and 2 look worth exploring. Many thanks
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Lanarkshire board has some useful links, including to Post-Office Annual Glasgow Directory 1887-1888. Found (page 448);
William MITCHELL, wine and spirit merchant, 291 & 293 Main St Bridgeton
I couldn't see any William Henry Mitchell listed in there, or Mitchell and Berry Co.
Mo
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That's a good idea, Mo :) Wider listing of the Glasgow Post Office Directories here http://www.nls.uk/family-history/directories/post-office/index.cfm?place=Glasgow
Catheyt, do you know what kind of business Mitchell & Berry was?
Monica
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When did Margaret marry George Hurst and when did she die?
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Hi Cathey
There are some old English directories you can search at http://www.historicaldirectories.org . If you enter Mitchell Berry as keywords , you will get some hits .... including one for "Mitchell & Berry " at 21 Bread Street , EC , London in the 1895 directory. They are listed as Warehousemen . At same address in 1899 directory and in 1915 at 32 Old Change, EC.
Included in the 1915 listing is:
T A "Triplicate, Cent" T N's 808 and 4322 Central .
I don't actually know what T A means ! T N I guess means telephone numbers. Which is good news - they might show up in the old BT directories on Ancestry as well.
Sally
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Given the 1915 business address, this looks like him in the Times:
Saturday, Oct 24, 1908;
Deaths:
MITCHELL, on the 21st Oct. very suddenly WILLIAM HENRY MITCHELL of Frognal Lane, Hampstead and 32, Old Change, EC aged 56? ( difficult to read last digit).
Funeral on Monday , 26th inst at 12:30 at West Hampstead Cemetery NW.
Sally
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Just realised you thought he was alive in 1909 - perhaps some effects were sent over ?
Just found on Ancestry under "England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations");
an entry for William Henry Mitchell of Kinnersleigh, Frognal-Lane, Hampstead and 32a dn 32a Old Change.. he died on 21st Oct 1908 at Central Station Hotel Glasgow! So you could download his Death Cert from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and check the parents' names ( provided the informant knew who they were, of course) ....
Hope it's the right chap.
Sally
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The Glasgow Herald reports his death as William H Mitchell (of Mitchell and Berry, London)
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Sally, I am SO glad you have joined RootsChat ;D As with your info on the other post (Agnes Robertson info), what you have found out is clever!
Lucky, if that is ever the right word, that William looks to have died in Scotland and, as you say Sally, let's hope that informant to his death knew the names of his parents...
Monica
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From the London Gazette, confirming again what you have found Sally www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/28203/pages/9425
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With all the leads you have found Sally, I wonder if this is William and wife Louise and possibly sister Margaret in Hampstead in 1901. The visitor in the household looks interesting as although indexed as Haret, I think the original looks like Hurst. There is also the reference to Fermanagh for both William and Margaret:
William H Mitchell 48, British and Foreign....xxxx (lots of big black lines over the next words :-\) b. Fermanagh Ireland
Louis Mitchell 31, b. London
Leslie G Mitchell 2m b. London
Mollie E Mitchell Under 1 Month b. London
Margaret Haret 44, widow, b. Fermanagh Ireland
Eliza Whitley 38, staff
Charlotte J Howard 23, staff
Mable Martin 19, staff
Mary E Johncock 30, staff
Fanny E Morley 28, staff
RG13, Piece 120, Folio 126, Page 44.
Monica
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William Henry Mitchell married Louise Taylor on Jan 12, 1898 at Hampstead Holy Trinity.
William is down as aged 45 and a bachelor, his father also William, shows as deceased. Louisa was 28, her father John.
A complete scrabble of names for witnesses - I think I can see at least 8 names there (never seen so many!). At least one Mitchell name, Edward, showing as a witness.
Childrens' christenings have father William as either a gentleman or a merchant. The later addresses for the family from the christenings show as Kinnersleigh, Frognal-Lane which matches what Sally has found as addresses.
Monica
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Monica- good find - I read it as Hurst too! and the name of the house appears to be Kinnersley ! Further up the page it says Frognal Lane . So really looks likely now.
There's a marriage on Ancestry dated 12 Jan 18989 of William Henry Mitchell aged 45 , bachelor, profession "Esquire" , residence Hampstead , father William Mitchell (deceased) , to a Louise Taylor ,28 , Spinster, resident Hampstead, father John Mann Taylor Esquire,. Witnesses include an Edward Mitchell
Sally
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oops crossed post - sorry
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No need to apologise Sally...I was as busy following all your great leads!
Monica
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Sally and Monica - you guys are amazing :D
Just wanted to share my admiration,
Mo
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I don't quite know how to say thank you. I came back from a few days away to find a treasure trove of info. Will need to do some more digging. To answer some of your questions. Margaret Mitchell married my g grandfather George Hurst on 18 march 1879 in the parish of Aughalurcher ,Fermanagh. She died on 11 October 1921 in Belfast . I am certain you have found the right William for me. The entry in 1901 looks intersting although other records suggest Margaret would be 46--but as we dint have her actual birth record 44 could be correct.
I found another address for William on some legal papers . In 1891 he gives an address as 5 Wood Street London and he is listed as a Merchant. Perhaps this was another Business Address.
We had just assumed he was alive in 1909 because of the card from Berry and Co--there is no signature on it--just my g grandmothers writing on the back with the date---Jan 1909---so the parcel could have even been a gift from the comany.
Thank You all for your help. I will start on the trail again.
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Thank you so much for looking at this. Sorry to trouble you but I have failed to trace the herald report--still very new to this.Could I trouble you to give me more infotmation on the link etc. Would like to print out the report.Thanks.
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Hi Cathey
I don't know if this would the way Sancti accessed the Herald or not : but here is one method .
Google have added quite a lot of old papers to their news archive . Some of the more recently added pages don't seem to have been fully "OCR'd" yet - only some of the headlines are searchable - however all pages are browse-able.
If searching via http://news.google.com/archivesearch/advanced_search gives no hits, you can try here :
http://news.google.com/newspapers
There you have a list of newspapers - click on the one you want and you can select by decade , year , month etc until you get the issue you want to read.
Having just done that , here is a link to a page which has a death notice for William on it :
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=DdQ-AAAAIBAJ&sjid=q0wMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1265%2C5570599
I haven't checked if there were as an article about his death in the paper.
Sally