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Title: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:32 GMT (UK)
Have found in Ancestry.com info on henry Ramsay Cox and marriage to Julia Wickham. how do I verify that this is my ancestor and how do I find any children from this marriage? is it all supposed to be in the ancestory .com site? thank you still very very green on this do have a photo of Julia Cox and Henry cox can these photos be verified some way? Oreen
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:36 GMT (UK)
Hi

When and where did the marriage take place
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:41 GMT (UK)
Found it - London

29.5.1869 Immanuel - Streatham Common

Henry Ramsay Cox 23 -occ clerk -  father Henry occ clerk

Julia Wickham 19 - father Edgar occ gentleman

Witnesses Henry Cox and Girton G G ..............?
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you CarolW  What does occ stand for? 
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:50 GMT (UK)
1851 census - Croydon Surrey

Edgar Wickham 46 surgeon - not practising b Chipping Sodbury
Maria   44 St George in Fields ??
Julia   3 b Norwood Surrey
Ann Eliza Weath 48 visitor
Emma Astell 25 servant
Emma Welsey 14 servant
HO107 Piece 1601 Folio 570 Page 52

Occ = occupation
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:59 GMT (UK)
This is the 1891 census for Folkestone Kent - all surname Cox except servants and suspect the initial R is Ramsay

Julia Cox 43 b Norwood Surrey - widow
Ida Frances Ramsey   20 b Norwood
Henry Sydney R   19 b South Australia - Nairne
Helena R  18 b Norwood
Lynda Maria R   16 b Lyndhurst Hampshire
Edgar Cecil R   14 b Forest Hill Kent
Julie A E R   13 b Forest Hill Kent

plus 3 servants
RG12 Piece 749 Folio 136 Page 76
 
Edgar aged 4 is a boarder in Lewisham in 1881 with the Allen family
Henry aged 9 is at school in Kent
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Thursday 27 January 11 00:14 GMT (UK)
Wow Wow that is fantastic because I know that SRcox was born in Nairne in south Australia and went back to england as an infant and his father henry was some kind of naturalist and into butterflies and insects you are wonderful  how can i now add this to my tree  regards oreen
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 00:18 GMT (UK)
Per freebmd  www.freebmd.org.uk

Deaths September qtr 1880   Henry Ramsay Cox aged 36  Lewisham  1d 643
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Thursday 27 January 11 00:22 GMT (UK)
CaroleW you have made my day I am still struggling with the archive web sites  :) but have sifted through some of it . I have  a photo of Julia Cox ( wickham)  and my father remembers calling her GO GO  apparently she was a very good horsewoman  is there a way i ( or do they not encourage) posting my tree on this web?? regards oreen
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 00:29 GMT (UK)
I don't think Rootschat has the server capacity to take everybody's Family Trees.  Most people post them on the likes of Ancestry
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Thursday 27 January 11 00:35 GMT (UK)
ok will try this  Do you think this is a useful  way to  make other connections.  My next step is to look further into edgar wickham and his wife maria heath.  the heath is a connection somehow to ( family myth??) Captain Blood. My great aunt up until the day she died recieved rent? pension ? from the estates of c.blood so wish me luck
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 00:43 GMT (UK)
I think this may be Henry on the 1851 census at 6 Fort St  Bermondsey Surrey but as I don't know where he was born - it's only guesswork.  All children from Ebenezer onwards b Newington Surrey

Henry Cox 46 wharfingers clerk b Southwark Surrey
Mary A 41 b Middlesex Aldgate
Frederick H  16 b Bermondsey
Lydia  14 b Bermondsey
Ebenezer  12
Hephzilah 10
Henry   7
Benjamin   5
Matilda   4
HO107 Piece 1561 Folio 60 Page 45
 
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 00:45 GMT (UK)
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I have  a photo of Julia Cox ( wickham)  and my father remembers calling her GO GO  apparently she was a very good horsewoman


Are you sure this was Julia snr and not Julie Adelaide Ramsay Cox b 1878?

Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 00:58 GMT (UK)
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have a photo of Julia Cox and Henry cox can these photos be verified some way

When was the photo taken and where?
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 01:13 GMT (UK)
From freebmd

Marriages March qtr 1898 
 
Ida Frances R Cox  married Sidney Neale Horne   Elham  2a 1427   

Marriages September qtr 1900   

Lynda Marie Ramsay Cox to Lambert James Whistler  Birmingham  6d 289   

Marriages September qtr 1904     

Edgar Cecil R Cox to Ethel Maud Horne     Lewisham  1d 2181

The 1881 census shows that Sidney & Ethel were brother and sister
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Thursday 27 January 11 02:56 GMT (UK)
Goodness CaroleW you are so quick and it looks like it is a late night  will try to attach a photo and see what you think regards oreen
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Thursday 27 January 11 03:03 GMT (UK)
The photo sits in the front of a family album belonging to my great grandfather henry Sydney Ramsay Cox ( we call him SRC )and while the Photo not dated the album is about 1902/01 SRC is the one born in Nairne apparently he trained on the ship Wocester then went to usa for a while and came to south aust aged about 20.
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 16:10 GMT (UK)
What is bugging me is that I can't find Julia after 1891 or daughters Julie and Helena
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Thursday 27 January 11 23:25 GMT (UK)
Looks like goodafternoon CaroleW 
I have found a reference of Julie Adelaide Elizabeth Ramsay Cox    -    married George Chapman 1903 in walkerville Adelaide  they had a son and 2 daughters  see   http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A070622b.htm
still working on the shipping lists to see when they travelled
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 27 January 11 23:32 GMT (UK)
Wrong info - reply removed
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: Kg on Tuesday 22 February 11 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm normally a lurker, but I found this while searching on Google so had to reply!

I believe we may share someone in common through the Julia Wickham you mention.

Julia is the daughter of Maria Heath and Edgar Wickham. Maria is my great x4 granddad's (Francis Wilson Heath) sister. If this connection is correct then it would be great to share information as I have little on that side of the family.
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Wednesday 23 February 11 22:30 GMT (UK)
Hi KG
see I have just found this one in rootschat so i am still working it all out.  ???
is there a way I can send you the stuff i have?
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: elizabethflynn on Sunday 17 September 17 12:12 BST (UK)
Hello,

I was very excited to read your post and I believe we are related!

Julia Wickham was my great great grandmother (referred to as Go Go). I was looking over old family photos and saw a reference to her son I believe was Sydney Ramsay Cox!

Her daughter Julie Adelaide Elizabeth Ramsay Cox is my great grandmother (referred to as Mambo). I believe she was a very good horsewoman as well. She married Henry George Chapman who was a professor.

She had 3 children - Mary Gladys, Dorothy and Rupert. Mary Gladys is my grandmother.

I too have heard of the myth of Colonel Blood and would be very interested to read what connection there is, or anything else about Cox and Wickham.

I have been looking over old family photos (very lucky to have) and have seen photos relating to relatives in Kent, England together with photos taken in Australia where Julie Adelaide Elizabeth Ramsay Cox lived in Blackheath, NSW Australia.
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: oreen on Monday 18 September 17 11:30 BST (UK)
Hi Elizabeth,

My name is Pam Edmonds  .  If you check the tree  My paternal grandfather 'Bert' Edmonds married Eugenie Pauline Cox ,  hence the Cox connection.  I beleive your grandmother? was nicknamed Bubbles, and had visited Renmark  to see Lil and Pauline.

i would be happy to send you a USB with all the stuff I have if you are able to send an address . Must warn you tho My research is all over the place not a lot of order.....yet.
i am a bit of a 'get round to it' 

i beleive the Bible is in England with Cecil Cox relatives   but cannot confirm this.
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: elizabethflynn on Monday 18 September 17 12:14 BST (UK)
Hi Pam,

Your post has made my day! You would not believe it but I was showing my Dad (Patrick Flynn) old photos of his mother when she was just a baby, and he too mentioned she was nicknamed Bubbles. For you to then repeat it a few days later is so uncanny gives me goosebumps!

I love that my grandmother visited Lil and Pauline. Who is Lil btw? My grandmother also had the nickname Gogie (don't know if that is the right spelling!)

I would very much love to receive a USB too! I will send you a private message with my address. I have only really started researching on ancestry.com but would love to share what I have with you too!

Could you please send through your family tree as well? I could not see on the board but would very much like to see.

Sorry could you please let me know the significance of the Bible in England too with Cecil Cox relatives?

This is all so fascinating!

I am hoping to meet with my aunt and uncle to know more as well in regards to the family tree and I will let you know what I find out. Mary Gladys overall had four children - Rosemary, Helen, Michael and Patrick (my Dad).

I did read a post as well, with someone stating that they think Richard Heath (Maria Heath's father) may have had the surname Blood originally? Interesting if could find out more and if that was true!
Title: Re: Ramsay Cox and Wickham research
Post by: elizabethflynn on Monday 18 September 17 12:24 BST (UK)
Hi again Pam

Sorry just found in another post of yours information concerning the bible so all good, and that you were the one stating Richard Heath may have originally been Richard Blood!  :D

Now I know why bible so special!