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Title: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Wednesday 26 January 11 13:37 GMT (UK)
An address from 1936: 36 cambridge Terrace, Cumberland House London W2.

Looking for its location, cannot find it from a map of London today.

Does anyone know if this still exists and where?
Many thanks for heelp.
Shejos
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 26 January 11 13:46 GMT (UK)
Īt's still there!

Just to the east of Regents Park. NW1 4JL

Find Chester Gate, and Cambridge Terrace lies on the Outer Circle, just below Chester Gate.
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Wednesday 26 January 11 13:59 GMT (UK)
Thank you, yes I see this, but this is London NW1 and my address has W2.  Has London changed its numbering since 1936?  Also I don't understand the Cumberland House, I can only find a Cumberland House in Kensington.
Confusing!  Thanks
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 26 January 11 15:01 GMT (UK)
OK. I stand corrected! ???

There is still a Cambridge Square, W2.
Looks like new(ish) blocks around there - so maybe Cambridge Terrace has been rebuilt?
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: Valda on Wednesday 26 January 11 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hi


Cambridge Terrace W2 was encorporated into Sussex Gardens sometime before 1945.


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Wednesday 26 January 11 17:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much indeed to both of you.  Sussex gardens is close to Cambridge Square, so it looks like you are both right about the area.  Google maps shws Sussex Place clearly, so houses look old enough to have been built by 1936.  I guess I'll have to try and find a map from this time to locate exactly.  At least I'm closer.
Very grateful.
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: Valda on Wednesday 26 January 11 18:33 GMT (UK)
Hi


According to one website

'His grandfather, the artist John Doyle, and his family lived for many years at 17 Cambridge Terrace in Paddington, now the Hamilton Hotel in the renamed street of Sussex Gardens.'

http://www.lostworldread.com/westminster.htm

The Hamilton Hotel website states its address as 32 Sussex Gardens (next to the Pavilion Hotel at 34-36) on the corner of Sale Place and Sussex Gardens. You can see the Pavilion Hotel on Google maps and you can zoom down to street level

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

This website is slightly contradictory and states

'Several of the new houses had notable residents. No. 32 Cambridge Terrace was occupied by Napoleon I's surgeon Barry O'Meara (1786-1836) from 1830 and no. 34 by the caricaturists John Doyle (1797-1868) and his son Richard (1824-83) from 1833 to 1864.'

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=22664


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 26 January 11 22:47 GMT (UK)
From my 1936 edition of the Authentic Map Directory of London & suburbs, Cambridge Terrace is towards the bottom right of square 24, just above Grand Junction Road
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:13 GMT (UK)
This is brilliant, thank you so much, but unfortunately I am unable to open the link, get an error message saying I am not allowed to.  Can you help?  Thank you
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: nigelp on Wednesday 26 January 11 23:59 GMT (UK)
My understanding is that Cambridge Terrace is /was the terrace on the north side (ie Paddington Station side) of Sussex Gardens (formerly known as Grand Junction Road). Oxford Terrace is /was the terrace on the south side.

Nigel
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: dawnsh on Saturday 29 January 11 11:21 GMT (UK)
Moved to London & Middlesex so you can see the image.

Dawn
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Sunday 30 January 11 14:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much nigelp, dansh and Valda for your help.  The map and explanation of Oxford and Cambridge Terrace is exremely helpful.  I have now been able to find it on a present day map and will be able to look next time I'm in London.
Grateful for the help.
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: [Ray] on Monday 31 January 11 08:07 GMT (UK)
Hi

You can always googleview sussex gardens and view it online if you can't wait to see it.

Ray
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Tuesday 01 February 11 10:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Ray, yes of course I have done this, but I still would like to try and find the exact number 36 - also had Cumberland House in the address, thought this might be easier to do on the spot....
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: nigelp on Tuesday 01 February 11 19:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Shejos,

If you are looking for 36 Cambridge Terrace, Southwick Street separated what were 38 and 39 Cambridge Terrace. 38 was the Edgware Road (ie east) side. Numbering was consecutive so that 36 would be the third property along from Southwick Street towards Edgware Road.

Hope this helps with finding it on Google maps. Pity I have only seen your most recent post this evening as I was in the area earlier today and could have taken a photo.

Nigel
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Tuesday 01 February 11 21:26 GMT (UK)
Nigelp,

Thank you for this.  You do sound as though you know what you are talking about. 
But ... from my ignorance ... if I look at the map from 1936 kindly provided on this page, Cambridge Terrace appears to be (right hand of square 24) just below Norfolk Square and therefore significantly to the left of Southwick Street. 

If you look at the equivalent part of the map on Google maps it would seem to correspond with the part of Sussex Gardens between the writing A4209 and the junction with Norfolk Place i.e. still just below Norfolk Square? 
Do you see what I mean?
On the 1936 map Cambridge Terrace stops at this point and doesn't extend as far as Southwick Street.
Be grateful for your comment. 
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: nigelp on Tuesday 01 February 11 23:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Shejos,

If you look carefully at the wording on the 1936 map you will find that Cambridge Terrace extends all the way from Edgware Road in the east to London Street in the west (80 Cambridge Terrace was on the corner of London Street). It was the name given to the whole length of the service road and terraces parallel to and on the north side of Grand Junction Road. The positioning of the wording of Rainsford Street etc is perhaps causing confusion and which results in the very wide separation of the words Cambridge and Terrace. The words Oxford and Terrace are similarly positioned on the south side of Grand Junction Road.

In case it is of interest a Roy Flinn is listed at 36 Cambridge Terrace, apartments in the 1938 Post Office Directory of London (he is also listed at 41 Cambridge Terrace).

Nigel
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: nigelp on Wednesday 02 February 11 09:44 GMT (UK)
The map at this link may be clearer:

http://archivemaps.com/mapco/bart1908/bart22b.htm

Nigel
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: shejos on Wednesday 02 February 11 17:22 GMT (UK)
Thank you Nigelp.  This is immensely helpful and I now see the extent of Cambridge Terrace, much more than I had realised.

So I think I am right in saying that the old Cambridge Terrace would be on the left hand side of the road (today's Sussex Gardens) as you face the Edgware Road?

The person who lived there was only there in 1936 and rented a room so wouldn't be around in 1938.  She writes of it: We went room hunting ... finally we found a really nice room in decent surroundings with breakfast and daily bath, running warm and cold water, relative quiet, good light, clean and decent furnishings with a couch and pull out table for 25 shillings per week...." 
She gives the address as 36 Cambridge Terrace, Cumberland House, London W2

I really apprciate the help you have given me.
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: DrCaffeine on Friday 25 February 11 16:09 GMT (UK)
Excellent exchange on this complex name-changer! I'm interested in Cambridge Terrace NW (Regent's Park).

It's still there (south-eastern side of the Park) as described earlier on this thread) but I can't find it in the 1911 Census. I have an addressed envelope (to No.3) dating from 1910. It's located very near the Royal College of Physicians, which fits the context of my interest. I've located Census entries for adjacent streets (the area is St Pancras), but not Cambridge Terrace.

Comments welcomed
Title: Re: Cambridge Terrace London W2
Post by: Valda on Friday 25 February 11 17:26 GMT (UK)
Hi


Welcome to Rootschat

A free address search on the 1911 census shows Cambridge Terrace Regents Park numbers 1-10

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results5.aspx?x=1424022834

Regards

Valda