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Title: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Tuesday 25 January 11 17:32 GMT (UK)
Can any one help I am looking for 1841 census of this family
Archibald Dow wife Jane
Many Thanks KateNZ
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 25 January 11 17:34 GMT (UK)
Can we have a birthyear please - only one in Perth and he was 21 and appears to be unmarried
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Tuesday 25 January 11 17:37 GMT (UK)
Born 1819 married 1842 Kincardine on Doune.
Silly me he would have been single in 1841 need to see 1851 census
Many thanks for your quick reply
Kate
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Fergie38 on Tuesday 25 January 11 19:49 GMT (UK)
No Archibald Dow on the Parish of Kincardine 1851 census index that I have
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 25 January 11 22:40 GMT (UK)
He may have lived in Perth - but he wasn't born there

1851 census for Port of Menteith Perth - all born there except Archibald snr

Archibald Dow 31 farmer of 170 acres  b East Indies - Prince of Wales Island
Jane 31 
Archibald 8
Robert 5
Margaret 3
Alexander 1
Port of Menteith ED 1 Page  14 Line 10

Per IGI

ARCHIBALD DOW    Spouse:  JANE SANDS    Marriage:  06 FEB 1842   Port Of Monteith, Perth 
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 25 January 11 22:47 GMT (UK)
The 1841 entry must be the one I referred to earlier

Kilmadock Perth

Archibald McQueen 40
Archibald Dow 21
Donald McAlpine 20
Donald McNaughton 22
Charles McAlpine 15
Merran Henderson 35
Kilmadock ED 1 Page  11 Line 630

The 1841 does not show relationships or actual birthplaces.  On this entry - he is shown as b Scotland - no occupation - shown as Ind (Independant means)

Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Wednesday 26 January 11 00:19 GMT (UK)
Many Thanks for that
Kate
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: valr on Saturday 16 April 11 20:10 BST (UK)
Hi Kate do you know who Archibald's parents were? I have Dows who came from Muthill late 18th century to clear moss in Kincardine in Menteith..
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Saturday 16 April 11 21:48 BST (UK)
Archibalds parents were Archibald Dow and Margaret Dow
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 16 April 11 23:25 BST (UK)
Is this their marriage

ARCHIBALD LIEUTENANT DOW    Spouse:  MARGARET DOW   
Marriage:  18 JAN 1817   Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian 
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 16 April 11 23:29 BST (UK)
A parents search on the IGI throws up these 2 entries - in both cases parents were Archibald Dow and Margaret Dow

ALEXANDER DOW   Birth:  27 MAY 1821   Christening:  29 JUN 1821   Dysart, Fife (extracted entry)

ARCHIBALD ALEXANDER DOW   Birth:  09 JUN 1819  Christening:  21 JUL 1820   Burntisland, Fife  (this is a submitted entry)
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Sunday 17 April 11 20:44 BST (UK)
Yes that is them
Kate
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 April 11 22:55 BST (UK)
If that IGI entry is your Archibald - he is shown as born Fife.  However -the 1851 Archibald has a foreign birthplace which is again shown in 1861

If his birth and christening were months apart - I would assume he was born abroad but christened in Scotland.  But the birth and christening are only one month apart
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Sunday 17 April 11 23:30 BST (UK)
Archibald son of Archibald and Margaret was born East Indies Prince of Wales Island
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 18 April 11 00:04 BST (UK)
Yes - I know.  What I am saying is that the extracted IGI entry above - which you have agreed is your ancestor - shows him born in Fife, not the West Indies

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Yes that is them


There is an OPR entry on Scotlands People that confirms the info on the IGI so the point I am making is that either the IGI entry is NOT your ancestor or the census entry is not him

He cannot have been born in the West Indies at the same time as born in Fife
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Monday 18 April 11 00:59 BST (UK)
Sorry have been helping someone out with this and I understood Archibald senior was born in Fife his son Archibald going by my info was born Prince Of Wales Island
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 18 April 11 19:02 BST (UK)
Not according to that IGI entry so something is not right somewhere
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: valr on Monday 18 April 11 19:21 BST (UK)
It is very exciting that he was born in such a distant place, isn't it? Do you have any idea what his father might have been doing there? I believe there are a lot of records to explore from the East India Company.  :)
Title: Re: 1841 Census
Post by: Kate NZ on Monday 18 April 11 20:21 BST (UK)
Hi yes it is exciting I believe he worked for the East India Company or was in the royal navy just a couple of leads to follow