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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: porridge301 on Monday 24 January 11 21:49 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to research my NZ family over the internet from Tasmania. I have done the basics and obtained bdm certificates for my ancestors who mainly lived in the Christchurch area. I have shipping and probate records and would like advice on what I can do next to fill in those gaps or get a glimpse of who they were and what they did.
I have Josiah and Christina Hadley, he appears to have been a notable character and was a blacksmith "Engineer" They both died in Christchurch area I have death certificate and probate/will for Josiah, where could I look next for further information.
I have Henry and Susannah Wade, I have death certificates, probate/will, Henry was also noted as being an Engineer. Whats the possible research to obtain further info
I would love to hear your ideas, suggestions, contact information for NZ resources and suggested websites. I feel there must be so much more I can find out about these families!!
Cheers - Glenys, Tasmania
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Hi Glenys,
Have you tried searching our papers past website?
Josiah was an engineer and boiler maker.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=p&p=home&e=-------10--1----2%22josiah+hadley%22--
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Thank you Leandra, no I did not, but I do now!!!!
Cheers
Glenys
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Welcome
there are lots of ChCH newspaper transcriptions here
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/
Bye
althea
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Hi Glenys,
Bits and pieces some of which you may already have.
Hadley, Josiah 42, engineer, ex Staffordshire, emigrated on "Strathallan" 14/10/1858-21/1/1859 with wife 39.
1862. notice of claim to vote, address Hereford Street, Christchurch.
Provincial electoral roll 1870-71 Christchurch District
353 Hadley, Josiah Christchurch leasehold part section 984 (this could be traced to a specific address).
Christiana should appear in the first electoral roll for women and later rolls - may be able to check when I'm in Christchurch next week.
Jos Hadley will 19/8/1875, d 9/12/1875, will proven 23/12/1875 50 Pounds executor Christina Hadley legatee/nok, his widow.
Hadley, Christiana. (NB spelling difference) settlement 9/4/1880. filed 14/7/1902 132 Pounds. executors, grandchildren.
Josiah was an engineer, boilermaker, well-sinker and sank the first well in Christchurch opposite Tattersall's in Cashel Street, Christchurch. Also made lighting gas from resinous gum and tallow - for an entertainment company operating in the ChCh Town Hall. Entire business was sold in 1871.
Brother John (1819-1901) emigrated from Staffordshire on the "Orari" 25/4/1879-26/7/1879 with wife and 6 children. Although recorded as a "farm labourer" in the ship's list, in Christchurch he was an iron moulder, and exhibited a kitchen stove in a Christchurch exhibition (?Agricultural and Pastoral Show). John's son Henry married in Kaiapoi, Margaretta Ross, 7/6/1893, daught of Robert and Eleanor (maiden name Page). (Registration number 1893/1812).
Cheers
MalNZ
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:o Thank you so much your reply was amazing. Yes I have Josiah's will but not other info on him and Yes the brother I suspected this, but now you have confirmed it. Lots more family for me to research now. I made this connection through research in England but was not sure if the John that came to New Zealand with wife and children was the same brother - the farmer thing threw me off.
Am happy to absorb anymore thoughts and info you have
Cheers
Glenys
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Hi glenys,
here is a link to the paasenger list for John, his wife Jane and 6 children
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bye/
you may need to wait a few seconds for it to load
Cheers Janette
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Yes I have Josiah's will but not other info on him and Yes the brother I suspected this, but now you have confirmed it.
I made this connection through research in England but was not sure if the John that came to New Zealand with wife and children was the same brother - the farmer thing threw me off.
Hi Glenys
Just to clarify "the farmer thing" .... :D
In order to qualify for assisted immigration to NZ, at various times many males had to forgo their usual trades or professions and this is why we see them on passenger lists described as "ag. labs" or "labourers" (or "farmers"). Often they were initially bonded to particular projects - "working the land" for a period of time. Once established in the colony though, many reverted to their previous trades, set up businesses, etc. etc. ;)
~ Lu
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Hadley, Josiah 42, engineer, ex Staffordshire, emigrated on "Strathallan" 14/10/1858-21/1/1859 with wife 39.
Cheers
MalNZ
Hi again
Following up on MalNZ's offering above ;) (and also noting that you've said you have shipping details), adding the link below which contains lots re: the "Strathallan" voyage - in case you may not have seen it ?
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/Strathallan.htm
* What specific info are you still in need of, for Josiah HADLEY and his family ? :)
~ Lu
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Thank you so much MalNZ, Lucy2 and Janette,
The info you have provided is great, and of course has given me more family to research. I think with what you have given me, it looks like I have about all I can get on Josiah Hadley and his wife Christina? I do not quiet get this in MalNZ reply:
Hadley, Christiana. (NB spelling difference) settlement 9/4/1880. filed 14/7/1902 132 Pounds. executors, grandchildren.
Why would it be filed so much later and would there be any other documentation on this settlement and where would it be held?
I would appreciate any ideas on Henry Wade and his wife Susannah hadley, they arrived in NZ around 1859 -1863 with their infant daughter Susannah Elizabeth, she was born in New South Wales in 1859, so I assume NSW was their port of departure. Henry is noted as an Engineer but recently on the Electoral Rolls now on Ancestry I have found him to be a carpenter living in North Avon Road, rural section 41 lot 9, this property is mentioned in his will. Henry died in 1888 and Susannah died in Victoria in 1901. Other than bdm and will Henry has also been hard to crack and I lack information on him. I have so MANY questions!!! The photo attached I sent to Jennifer Queree curator of Decorative Arts NZ, she comments:
He is wearing a fireman's uniform so I expect he is part of the Volunteer Fire Service Brigade in Christchurch (or perhaps Lyttelton). The medals will be long service medals for the Fire Brigade. The Christchurch Volunteer Fire Brigade was formed in 1860.
From the width of the sleeves and the hairstyle, I would place the photo in the mid 1870s, which fits with the date of practice for Grand & Dunlop (as collodion photographers) who were in business between 1876-80.
This is a family photo but I just cannot work out who: Henry Wade and Susannah had two sons Henry Josiah b 1863 and John Francis b1866 but the time frame given would make them to young? Henry Wade was born in 1832, could this man be in his late 40's? Can information be obtained in the time period given on members of the fire brigade?
Once again thank you and look forward to your thoughts and ideas.
cheers
Glenys