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Title: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: Lazarus on Monday 24 January 11 20:02 GMT (UK)
I am hoping to trace Martha Copley (nee Sweeting) in 1911.
In 1901 I found her aged 34  living with a child visitor Emma Sweeting.Head of household was Samuel Healey in Oldham Lancashire.The 1911 Census might help determine who were parents of the infant.Martha died 1919.
Help appreciated.
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: sillgen on Monday 24 January 11 20:12 GMT (UK)
I'm sorry but 1911 census requests are not allowed - please see here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

The index is free to search and there are lots of suggestions on this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html

Regards
Andrea
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 January 11 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hello,

1911 census lookups aren't allowed. You can look yourself in the indexes though.

Emma Sweeting's birth registration is on Lancashire BMD - Wigan and Leigh which doesn't give mother's maiden name. If she had been born in Oldham, the name would have been shown  ::)

regards
heywood
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: RonOne on Monday 24 January 11 20:29 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage:
(Note: there are only 2 birth registrations for Emma Sweeting, that would fit her age for this marriage. One in Wigan and the other in Newcastle)

Married by Banns by Gerard Whitehead (Vicar) on 3 May 1924 at All Saints, Oldham, Lancashire
Arthur Laithwaite, aged 24, Cotten Operative, Bachelor of 16 Trafalgar St, Oldham - Father: Thomas Laithwaite, Labourer
Emma Sweeting, aged 23, Calico Weaver, Spinster of No. 1 Court No. 4 off Ripponden Rd, Oldham - Father: Fred Sweeting, Moulder
Witnesses: Charles William Simmonds, Elizabeth Swallow, John Haigh Tetlow
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 January 11 20:42 GMT (UK)
That's good, RonOne,

she was living there in 1901 - now... who is Fred?
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 January 11 20:49 GMT (UK)
Martha has a brother Fred b 1878

marriage 1897 to Sophia King
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: heywood on Monday 24 January 11 20:51 GMT (UK)
There is a death in 1901 in Wigan of a Sophia Sweeting :-\

Looks as though Fred may remarry in 1907

So it looks as though Martha is bringing up her niece, Emma.

Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: RonOne on Monday 24 January 11 21:20 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heywood on Monday 24 January 11 20:51 GMT (UK)
Looks as though Fred may remarry in 1907

Quite possible as both the 1897 and 1907 marriages were at St James, Oldham.

Note: Second marriage was to Alice Beswick (AKA Alice Daubney)
(Alice is probably a widow with a maiden name of Daubney)
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: Lazarus on Monday 24 January 11 21:28 GMT (UK)
 ;D
Thank you sillgen,heywood and RonOne.
With your great help I believe I have pieced together the puzzle.
Greatly appreciated
Rex
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: Lazarus on Monday 24 January 11 21:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you for second marriage details RonOne.

Rex
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Tuesday 25 January 11 09:54 GMT (UK)
Hi, is this not Martha's marriage?

Martha Sweeting married Enoch Copley June 1/4 1887 Oldham/

There is a Fred Sweetting on the 1918 absent voters list for Oldham, living at 2 Derby Place, Oldham
Could this be him ? You could  check to see if his army records are on ancestry to?
Click here for possible Fred's Medal card index (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=5654671&queryType=1&resultcount=5)

I also found army records for a Fred pre ww1 and Fred give his next of kin as sister at 1 Court No. 4 off Ripponden Rd, Oldham & his mother at Dinting vale Glossop Derbyshire. Looks like the house still stands?

Click here for DINTING VALE GLOSSOP (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=dinting+vale+glossop&wrapid=tlif129595963759310&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Dinting+Vale,+Glossop,+Derbyshire+SK13&gl=uk&ei=T8Y-TdjrJYezhAfa74WMCg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA)

Discharged 4th Dec 1906 as medically unfit ( then has addicted to drink on the same page)
Another thread related to this http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,508472.msg3653601.html#msg3653601
So people don't wast time going over what has allready been posted

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: Lazarus on Wednesday 26 January 11 01:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you Mr. Migky for this valued information.

Rex
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: LancsLass on Monday 31 January 11 10:50 GMT (UK)
Hi....If you look on UKBMD for marriages in Oldham...Emma Sweeting married Arthur Laithwaite in 1924 at  AllSaints,Northmoor Oldham.

Regards..LL.
Title: Re: 1911 Look up Oldham Lancashire
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Monday 31 January 11 12:44 GMT (UK)
Quote from: LancsLass on Monday 31 January 11 10:50 GMT (UK)
Hi....If you look on UKBMD for marriages in Oldham...Emma Sweeting married Arthur Laithwaite in 1924 at  AllSaints,Northmoor Oldham.

Regards..LL.

Quote
Married by Banns by Gerard Whitehead (Vicar) on 3 May 1924 at All Saints, Oldham, Lancashire
Arthur Laithwaite, aged 24, Cotten Operative, Bachelor of 16 Trafalgar St, Oldham - Father: Thomas Laithwaite, Labourer
Emma Sweeting, aged 23, Calico Weaver, Spinster of No. 1 Court No. 4 off Ripponden Rd, Oldham - Father: Fred Sweeting, Moulder
Witnesses: Charles William Simmonds, Elizabeth Swallow, John Haigh Tetlow

I think RonOne has covered the full record on that one L.L.

Migky ;)