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Title: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: Pabbyab on Monday 24 January 11 19:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm trying to establish why my Grandmother was born in the Union Workhouse - Pontypridd in 1900.  Yet in the 1901 census she reside with her parents in Cardiff Road, Treforest, Pontypridd.

Where do I start to unravel this puzzle??

Regards


Paul.

Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: heddwch on Friday 28 January 11 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi there,
There was a materity unit in the workhouse for unmarried mothers. Perhaps your G grandmother was not married when she gave birth to your grandmother.?
kindest regards
Heddwch
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: Pabbyab on Friday 28 January 11 18:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks Heddwch

I didn't realize the workhouse had it's own maternity unit.  The puzzle arises from the fact that my great grandparents were married in Treherbert in October 1894.  In the 1901 census they were registered as still married and all living at home!!!!

I can only assume the parents must've fallen on hard times for a while or the husband was away working!!

Best Regards

Paul.
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: osprey on Saturday 29 January 11 12:49 GMT (UK)
Your ggrandmother may not have been an inmate, probably just using the infirmary there. They might not have been able to afford the fees charged by a doctor.

You could try the records held at the Glamorgan record office to see if the mother was an inmate or not. They have admissions & discharges for the period & births.

http://www.glamro.gov.uk/

Look at this site under workhouse life, there's info under medical care
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/
 
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: teddymark on Saturday 05 November 11 02:35 GMT (UK)
my gr gr grandfather died in Pontypridd Union Workhouse 17 Jan 1885. Anyone know which cemetery he may have been buried in?

many thanks! Teddy
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: heddwch on Saturday 05 November 11 12:36 GMT (UK)
Hello Teddy,
The cemetary is Glyntaff , Cemetary Road, Pontypridd, CF37 48E
01443 402810

There are records of the workhouse  Pontypridd  in Glamorgan archives,Leckworth
 Cardiff........029 2087 2200
www. Glamro.gov.uk

Hope this helps
Happy searcing
Heddwch
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: teddymark on Saturday 05 November 11 16:08 GMT (UK)
thanks Heddwch!!
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: heddwch on Wednesday 16 November 11 20:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Teddy,
Just completed a history course, History of the welfare state, we did a great deal regarding workhouses, especially the one in Pontypridd.It was a dreadful place, There is a good website you can lookup, Just Goggle Pontypridd workhouse.
Cheers
Heddwch.
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: Special Needs Girl on Wednesday 16 November 11 20:30 GMT (UK)
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Hello Teddy,
The cemetary is Glyntaff , Cemetary Road, Pontypridd, CF37 48E
01443 402810

Hi

My husband's gt gt grandparents both died in the workhouse too.

They are buried in Eglwysilan church cemetary, Abertridwr.  However there is no headstone and we are not sure exactly where they are buried because on his dead certificate it says that his gt gt grandfather committed suicide while in an unstable mind.  He jumped off the first floor window sill.

You may need to check where your ancester was living prior to entering the workhouse and check the cemetaries in that area too.

Good luck

SNG
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: teddymark on Wednesday 16 November 11 21:44 GMT (UK)
someone did look at the Glyntaff records and William Roberts is not there.
I did get his death cert finally ( I had been off by 2 years) and he died of kidney disease, at age 49. I was also told that if someone was ill they went into the workhouse for medical care.
William was in the Army for 22 years and had a pension so I was surprised he ended up there. Guess a pension wasn't all that much.
will look at the Pontypridd poorhouse site, and will also try Abertridwr.
many thanks for the help. teddy
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 16 November 11 22:55 GMT (UK)
more than likely, he died in the workhouse infirmary rather than being an inmate of the workhouse. If he was the breadwinner of the family, there may not have been money to pay for his care, so the workhouse infirmary was the only option.
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: boycefamilytree on Thursday 24 November 11 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

It may be worth possibly checking the records for St Ilan church which is on the top of the mountain at the borderline of Eglwysilan area over towards Abertridwr.

The area ran from the River Taf on the Glyntaf side of Pontypridd town area up over the mountain towards Abertridwr.

I think these may be held at the Ystrad Mynach council offices.

Regards,
Dave

 Boycefamilytree
Title: Re: Pontypridd Union Workhouse
Post by: Special Needs Girl on Thursday 24 November 11 23:08 GMT (UK)
Hi.

We found all the church records in Cardiff records office.

We also checked the workhouse records there too.

Obviously there is the 100 year rule but we were lucky in that we were allowed to read the report at the discretion of the librarian - we were within months.

Good luck with your search

SNG