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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: matilda1973 on Friday 21 January 11 13:55 GMT (UK)
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has anyone come across a Britannia Lock born c 1882 somerset ???
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Nice name!
She is certainly there in 1891 with her family, living in Nailsea, Somerset.
And the family is still in Nailsea in 1901.
However, she doesn't turn up on the 1911 census.
Birth, December qtr 1881, Chipping Sodbury, Vol 6a, page 203
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thanks
by 1911 she is with " husband " adolphus ryles and daughter Lily may, but i think they dont marry til 1914 under his mothers name of Hurn.
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If you need details (parents, siblings) just ask!
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yes please that would be great or the census many thanks ;D
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OK! 1891 reference is RG12, Piece 1955, Folio 49, Page 25
The Heath, Nailsea
Lock, William Head M 47 Licensed Hawker b Cheddar, Somerset
Lock, Rebecca Wife F 36 b Wotton-under-Edge
Lock, Merrick Son M 18 Licensed Hawker b Badminton, Gloucestershire
Lock, Adam Son M 17 Licensed Hawker b Farmonton, Gloucestershire
Lock, Naomi Daughter F 15 b Horfield, Bristol
Lock, Ada Daughter F 11 b Nailsea
Lock, Britania Daughter F 9 b Nailsea
Lock, Maurice Son M 7 b Nailsea
Lock, Cinderalla Daughter F 6 b Nailsea
Lock, Lavinia Daughter F 4 b Nailsea
Lock, Mary Daughter F 2 b Farmonton, Gloucestershire
Lock, Sarah Daughter F 8 months b Midsomer Norton, Somerset
A hand-written note says: Note. This family now residing in a house occupy a travelling van in summer.
1901 census, reference RG13, Piece 2354, Folio 61, Page 34
Union Street, Nailsea
Lock, William Head M 59 Peddler & Horse Dealer b Cheddar, Somerset
Lock, Rebecca Wife F 46 Peddler & Hawker b Wotton-under-Edge, Glos
Lock, Merrick Son M 29 Peddler & Horse Dealer b Oxford Upton, Glos
Lock, Hadam Son M 28 Peddler & Horse Dealer b Farnham, Surrey
Lock, Brittania Daughter F 20 Peddler & Hawker b Nailsea
Lock, Maurice Son M 17 Peddler & Horse Dealer b Nailsea
Lock, Cinderalla Daughter F 16 Peddler & Hawker b Nailsea
Lock, Lavinia Daughter F 14 Peddler & Hawker b Nailsea
Lock, Mary Ann Daughter F 13 b Nailsea
Lock, Christabel Daughter F 6 b Nailsea, Somerset
Lock, Rubin Visitor M 36 Peddler & Horse Dealer b Kingswood, Glos
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1881 census, reference RG11, Piece 2424, Folio 106, Page 44
Bailey Wood, Wrington, Somerset
Lock, William Head M 31 Tinman Hawker
Lock, Rebecca Wife F 27
Lock, Merrick Son M 10 Scholar
Lock, Adam Son M 8 Scholar
Lock, Naomi Daughter F 6 Scholar
Lock, Ada Daughter F 13 Scholar
Lock, Cinderella Wifes Mother Widow F 50
Lock, Reuben Brother-in-Law Single M 24 Travelling Tinker
Lock, Sabina Sister-in-Law Single F 22 Seller of Clothes Pins
In the column "Where Born" is the note:
All born in the county of Gloucestershire has been living at Nailsea during the winter and the children sent to school they appear as Gipsies.
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the family are still around bristol.some married into the birchs.cant say more cause they are alive.they liked the hurn name though.adolphus mothers maiden name.
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thanks for those KGarrad,
yep they did Cathay thats why its taken sometime to work them out with the name changes lol
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Lock, Cinderella Wifes Mother Widow F 50
Lock, Reuben Brother-in-Law Single M 24 Travelling Tinker
Lock, Sabina Sister-in-Law Single F 22 Seller of Clothes Pins
i wonder who these are as if they are rebeccas mum and siblings as suggested then surely they shouldnt be Locks, unless rebecca was a Lock before aswell as after " marriage"
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I simply thought thet Rebecca must have been a Lock!
Did travellers register their marriages (forgive my ignorance on the matter)?
Have been trying to work out where "The Heath" is/was.
Union Street still exists, and I found Bailey's Wood near Wrington (Bailey's Wood Walled Gardens is marked on Google maps).
Having grown up in Portishead (just a few miles away), and having spent a few years driving around Nailsea, I can't place The Heath?
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not all of them got married in a church or reg office , they had there own ways of doing it which in there eyes was just as good, they often married within the groups they travelled or extended family so she could of been a lock aswell. they also like to swop last names, with children sometimes using there mothers last name sometimes the fathers and sometimes a different name altogether. so it can make them a challenge
i dont know Nailsea at all even though i dont live that much father down the m5 dont think ive ever been there
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if you live near portishead have you been to yatton graveyard?there is alot of gypsy graves there including the joules/joles family.they also married into the locks so you might find some lock baptisms,marriages or deaths in the parish records there.the lock also favoured weston supoer mare and in the old days what was called gloucester was sometimes part of bristol!!!!!!!!!
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Grew up in Portishead - now living in the Netherlands!
And before that the Isle of Man!
Haven't lived in North Somerset for nearly 20 years now.
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shame,i notice you have crockers in your tree?i have one or two west country crockers in mine.
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hi Matilda some locks also used name Davis and Smith ! have a lot of info and also large tree a researcher sent me will add it to jib or genes soon:)
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that would be great, look forward to it thanks ;D
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hi Matilda1973,
I noticed you mentioned a adolphus ryles, i had an uncle called aldy ryles but i have no info about him, wondering if it could be same. my family name is price and they are related to the locks, lock,hearn family, just not sure how.
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hi
that sounds like there maybe a link, mine has links to Locks, Loveridges and Hurn/hearn if you would like to pm me i,ll gladly share info with you.
look forward to hearing from you
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i belive Britannia's sister Cinderella married Ambrose Smith and had a son James Smith in 1911
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hi Matilda, i have read that but do not know how we are linked....i would love to make a family treee but am beginning to believe that is going to impossible lol
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Marona
start with what you no and work backwards it will take time but there are some very helpfull pleople about. if you want to post what you no about your folk with any dates you have or send me a personal message i will try to help as much as i can ,
good luck Matilda
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Hello there , i have come across this thread as i am searching my family tree . Merrick Lock & Pheobe Joules were my great grandmother & father , i am the grand daughter of their daughter Daisy Lock . If anyone has any info on the family it would be very much appretiated .... many thanks :)