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Title: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35 : COMPLETED
Post by: ozcornman on Friday 21 January 11 01:37 GMT (UK)
I'm seeking any info regarding death of Michael Paulos SERGIS a Greek or Greek Cypriot national who came to Australia C1920. He was sponsored by one Ilias CHRISTOU who may or may not have been a relative (Source NAA). SERGIS was issued with Alien Regn Cert No 62 at Vestey's in Darwin (Source NAA) and married in Cairns in 1930,but the registration records his name as Michael PAULOS.
He was reputably murdered in Cairns during an attack/robbery at a Newsagents in 1934 or 1935.
I have searched using name combinations in Qld BDM,TroveNLA site (Newspaopers),Cairns Cemetery records all to no avail.

Thank you in anticipation
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: sparrett on Friday 21 January 11 01:45 GMT (UK)
Is this his marriage?

In 1930 REG.C174 Paulos Micheal
To Wilson, Jessie  Arclisse

Sue
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Dundee on Friday 21 January 11 02:41 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Michael may have been buried at Tully.  Jessie was living there in 1943 (electoral roll), and this post also might indicate that they were residing in Tully.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-NQ/1998-10/0909212454

You will need to contact the Cassowary Coast Regional Council http://www.cassowarycoast.qld.gov.au/

Do you need info about Jessie after this marriage?

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Billyblue on Wednesday 26 January 11 11:23 GMT (UK)
Ozcornman
I had a look at our Tully Cemetery CDs at QFHS library today.  Couldn't pick up either Micahel or Jessie.
I looked for SERGIS and PAULOS and also by Michael and Jessie, latter with no names which could be remotely mistaken for these two surnames.
These CDs are only MIs and photos and headstones, so they may be buried there without headstones, of course.
Dawn M.
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 26 January 11 11:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Dawn,

Jessie was buried in Cairns as Jessie Arclisse HOWE after she remarried, but can't see any possibilities for Michael there.

http://www.cairns.qld.gov.au/facilities-and-recreation/cemeteries/cemetery-search

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Billyblue on Wednesday 26 January 11 12:09 GMT (UK)
Ok Debra
I was just reacting to your suggestion re Tully on 21 Jan.
Dawn M
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 26 January 11 12:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Under POULOS

1943 Electoral Roll
Queensland, Kennedy, Douglas.
Poulos Mick, Front St Mossman, barber.


1949 Electoral Roll
Queensland, Leichhardt, Cairns.
Poulos Michael, Heatherview Boarding House, Cafe Proprietor.

Gerry
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 26 January 11 12:26 GMT (UK)
Murder of a Mr Mihail Dimitro Poulos in 1950.

Cairns Post 12 April 1950

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/42663725?searchTerm="Poulos"&searchLimits=l-title=Cairns+Post+%28Qld.+%3A+1909-1954%29%7Ctitleid%3A61

Gerry
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 26 January 11 13:01 GMT (UK)
1951 In Memorium Notice in the Cairns Post

POULOS--In fond memory of Mick Poulos who passed away 3rd april 1950.
Always Remembered.
(From Jess and Henry, Elsie and Tony)

 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/42689473?searchTerm="%20Poulos"&searchLimits=l-title=Cairns+Post+%28Qld.+%3A+1909-1954%29%7Ctitleid%3A61|||l-category=Family+Notices%7Ccategory%3AFamily+Notices

Gerry
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 26 January 11 13:06 GMT (UK)
Not guilty verdict in the death of Mick Poulos.

Cairns Post 29th July 1950

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/42676513?searchTerm="%20Poulos"&searchLimits=l-title=Cairns+Post+%28Qld.+%3A+1909-1954%29%7Ctitleid%3A61

Gerry
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 26 January 11 13:32 GMT (UK)
I was having doubts about this being him, but the man Jessie appears with on later electoral rolls is Henry Charles HOWE - could they be Jess and Henry? 

Mick is buried as Mihail DIMITRIPONLOUS - a good try I guess!

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 26 January 11 14:07 GMT (UK)
Debra,

I see in the Cairns Post for 30th June 1944 a Jessie Arelose Poulos was charged with asault, this would have been Michael's wife, it seems that Poulos was commonly substituted for Poulas.

It might be him but the murder was supposed to have happened in 1934/35.

Some info for ozcornman to consider.

Gerry
Brisbane/Cairns
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: cando on Thursday 27 January 11 01:28 GMT (UK)
A few more snippets

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bjb/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bjc/

One of my rellies suing M. POULOS for [medical] professional services rendered ::)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bjd/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bje/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bjf/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bjg/

Cando
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 27 January 11 04:09 GMT (UK)
Gerry the 1934/35 death date given does coincide with the second time that Jessie's child was placed into care and then adopted, so I wonder if the story hasn't become a little confused over time (as they do), with the two events being presumed to have happened at the same time.  My vote is that this is the correct person, and his death cert might provide evidence of his marriage.

Excellent find, by the way!

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 27 January 11 04:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks Debra, I think its the correct person as well and further to your burial information for Milail there is a Qld death registration.
1950/C1416
Michael Dimitropoulos
F: Dimitrius
M: Talou Gerge.

Gerry
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: ozcornman on Thursday 27 January 11 09:05 GMT (UK)
Thank you,thank you  one and all and please excuse my absence from the forum,but I'm in Brisbane and been preoccupied lately with stuff called H2O...too much H2O. I think every one knows I'm referring to the catastrophic floods we have just experienced. I survived the 1974 lot in another location, and had a few anxious days recently, when the water levels came up.  I'm ok,but my friend on whose behalf I started this post was possibly going to go under,but he's safe and well. He had water lapping at his property in the 1974 flood and this time was saved by subsequent development around his place and maybe the big Wivenhoe Dam???

My friend has been looking for the details of Michael P ( How many names can you have? This guy was Heckel & Jekyll on steroids!!!) for some years and knew of his demise ,but was not certain of the date,so we apologise for making the task difficult for everybody from the start. And the variations in surname made it interesting too!

So thank you again Sue,Gerry,Cando,Dawn M. and Debra for your wonderful assistance. As they say in the classics...."If its on Roots Chat..it works!"

Debra
My friend would like to correspond with you regarding Jessie,to whom he is related. He is open to exchange info,but he is computer-less,so if you PM me, we can work out how that can happen.


Thank you again


ozcornman
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 27 January 11 10:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Ozcornman,

I don't have much more than already posted, but a few more details:

Electoral Roll
1943


Jessie Arclisse PAULOS
Feluga Road
Tully
Home Duties

Electoral Roll
1949


Jessie Arclissi PAULOS
Argent Hotel
Mt Isa

(Henry Charles HOWE is also listed at the Argent Hotel, a miner)

Electoral Roll
1954


Henry Charles HOWE, Labourer
Jessie Arclisse HOWE, Home Duties
145 Sheridan Street
Cairns

Qld Death

Jessie Arkles HOWE

1959/C3386
No father named
Mother:  Madeline Maria Wyatt ** then Wilson

Burial

Jessie Arclisse HOWE

Aged    48
Buried  5/09/1959
Martyn Street Cemetery
Cairns

Section:    Monumental (MON)
Row:    A6
Plot #:    8110
Area:    Bottom Middle Side (BMS)

Unfortunately the dates fall outside the range of indexes, so it is unknown whether Jessie and Henry were actually married.  I think Jessie's death certificate would be worth having a look at if you don't already have it, especially to find details of children.

Glad to hear you got through the big wet ok.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35 : COMPLETED
Post by: ozcornman on Thursday 27 January 11 14:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Debra

My friend's Grandmother is Jessie's Sister and he wonders are you related to Auntie Phyllis who married Uncle Wally MORGAN?

Thanks


ozcornman

Title: Re: Stabbing Death - Cairns C1933/35 : COMPLETED
Post by: Dundee on Friday 28 January 11 04:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Ozcornman,

Sorry, I am not related to any of these people, just helping out with info and research.

Cheers,

Debra  :)