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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent => England => Kent Lookup Requests => Topic started by: hutchinson on Thursday 20 January 11 23:49 GMT (UK)
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can you please help , edward walsh family , he was born , in 1856 in chatham kent , could someone please look up for me on the 1861 census , think something to do with the armed forces . dont know much about him . thankyou so much shirley
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There is no 1861/71 entry with that profile
Do you have a copy of his marriage cert showing his fathers name and occupation
There is a birth entry on freebmd in 1856 in the Medway RD which included Chatham
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coul;d this be them -name entered as "Welch"?
1861
Brook
Chatham kent
Honorah Welch Mwife M 21 Manchester lancs
Edward son 4
Charles son 2
Mary daughter 2
children all b Chatham Kent
RG9 481 35 11
no head of house at home
Suz
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no iam sorry i dont , all i know is that he married a mary cammack in st nichol lincoln , and he was in the army , i would like to find out his mother and father. thankyou
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hi suz , my surname is walsh not welch , could this be right thanks shirley
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Perhaps this explains the spelling - did you check freebmd for the marriage?
Marriages March qtr 1890
Mary Elizabeth Cammack Lincoln 7a 592
Edward James Welsh
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You will find the marriage on the IGI pilot site - with fathers names
https://beta.familysearch.org/
Where did you get his birthplace from?
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hi suz , no i will look thanks . shirley
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this looks like the Charles "Welch" from 1861 - entered as "Welsh" this time
Danns Alley high St Kent
Edward Duggains? Head M 65 shoemaker Cork Ireland
mary wife 62 N America US
Charles Welsh grandson 12 Chatham Kent
Ellen Flinn Lodger 36 factory Ayrshire Scotland
RG10 904 101 8
Looks like every census has a different spelling of one or another of this family
Suz
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Marriage reg
Sept qtr 1855
Medway
James Welsh
Honora Duggan
2a 502
Suz
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1841
Chatham Barracks Kent
Edward Duggan 35 soldier I
Mary Duggan 30 soldier's wife No
Margaret Duggan soldier's child No
Charles Duggan 5 soldiers child S
Honora 1 soldiers child No
HO107 487 14 24 16
Suz
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wonder if this is James1856)' fther??
1861
1st Batt 60th Roy Rifles Western
Hougham Kent
vessell Heighs & Citadel Dover
James Walsh(Welsh?) 21 Private Chackmore Bucks
(no marital status given)
RG9 550 33 8
1851
Chackmore Bucks
Thomas Welsh (Welch?) Head M 45 lab Chckmore Bucks
Jane wife 43 Pidenton Oxon
George son 14
James son 12
William son 10
Hanah daughter 6
Eliza daughter 7mth
children all b Chackmore
HO107 1724 155 22
What do you think??
Suz
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hi suz , thanks for staying up late , all that sounds really exciting , it took me a bit to work out , i think ive got it now , this is a great help , it lookes like your on the right lines , i think your right the problem is all this walsh ,welsh , welch names on different sites , i will keep all your info , and keep piecing it together. thankyou so much shirley
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On FindMyPast there are 10 images of Army records for Edward James WALSH born Chatham 1856, he served in the 10th. Foot. He was in Ireland at the time of the 1871 census, hence his absence in 1871.
Jebber
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An added extra, Edward names his mother Mary as next of kin.
The records also give the date of his marriage to Mary Elizabeth CAMMACK as 28 February 1889, the year was obviously an error, Mary was taken on strength in December 1890.
Jebber
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hi jebber , just got your notes , thats great news , so now we know why we could not find him , and his mothers name is mary , .so it could be he died in the war ,. thankyou so much for your time and effort ,
thankyou shirley
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Hi Shirley,
He was discharged form the Army on the 6 July 1891. He appears to have suffered a lot from ill health during his service with, amongst other things, Bronchitis, Tuberculosis, Anaemia and Ague with around fifteen admitions to hospital, but he still managed to serve his time of 21 years, and get his Long Service and Good Conduct medal.
He also received the India Frontier Medal with clasp for Perak. As well as sering in India he was in Gibraltar, Malta and the East Indies
Jebber
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hi jebber
thanks that sounds really bad doesnt it , he must have suffered , but still did all them years , and all them place to travel to when your ill ,
my husband is out at the moment but i am know he will be so interested in all you have found about his great grandad its so good it bring tears eyes , he can now tell other members of his family your findings
thankyou so much shirley
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Glad to have helped.
Jebber
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HI,
The details of the marriage are as follows:
28-Feb 1890 Qtr 1 Vol. 7a/592, No. 224)
WELSH, Edward James, Sergeant Lincolnshire Regt of the Barracks, 33 yrs, S (Fthr Welsh, James, deceased soldier) AND
CAMMACK, Mary Elizabeth, Atterby, Lincs, 21yrs, S, Lincoln St Nicholas (Fthr: Cammack, John, labourer)
Witness: Charles Vigor Mary Riddy
Banns both signed
Fredk B Bleaker vicar
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hi tim
havent been doing much research for a while , thankyou so much for that info , you have now got my going again thankyou shirley