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Title: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Wednesday 19 January 11 14:00 GMT (UK)
Hello
Im not sure where to post this  so I hope its in the right place .i am trying to do some research ona book I found  over 10yrs ago at a book fayre in Keswick(Lake District)
It a book that has been put together  by the Gt Grandoson of the person am trying to find out about .
The persons name is W G Biddle  and the book is full of poetry  and pencil sketches  a couple of the pencil sketches  include Lord Beaconsfield   (Benjamin Disraeli) the caption underneath reads  Enjoying a picture of perfect repose  date Sept 1878 also one on the 7/8/1878 which has Punch in brackets (im assuming this is punch magazine ) other sketches are of  Adolphe Thiers (French Politician) and others              some of a Teddy Bear  one is titled Lazy Boy
and poetry  written in 1924 and other dates the latest I have come across is 1937
some of the poems are in News paper cuttings  others are by hand .
there are also poems  by James Biddle   WG Biddles father  (it says in the book)
I was wondering if any of you have any knowledge of these men   there are photos of a house in the book  74 St Micheals Rd Headingley Leeds  which says home of the Biddles. 

Can any of you point me in the rightdirection to futher my research in to these 2 men
Thankyou
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 19 January 11 14:18 GMT (UK)
hi,,in the 1901 census there is a family living at 3 st michaels terrace,headingley,Leeds.

RG13      Piece: 4246      Folio:  112      Page:  41 

william g biddle b 1862
blanche biddle b 1877
plus children.
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 19 January 11 14:26 GMT (UK)
and william g biddle is with his father James here  ;)

RG number: RG10      Piece: 2062      Folio:  43      Page:  26   
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Wednesday 19 January 11 15:07 GMT (UK)
Hello  me  again
Been having a route around (thaks Gorton boy )
Went back to 1841 and it looks like  they where all tailors    and orignated from Winchester
In the book there is  a poem by James Biddle    in the Devon  Evening  Express    dated 25/5/1880
called The Moor Land Stream  the poem above it is by Byron

There is also a news paper cutting dated 19/12/1874    for the prize giving  about James's son W G Biddle   he went to Hele's School  the prizes where for French, Drawing  and Drill   he got 3rd Prize  :)
 Maybe the poetry and sketchings where just hobbies    although the man who sold me the book said  WG Biddle  was an artist for punch magazine   maybe in his spare time    Cant find anything about this though. 

will Keep you posted
Jackey 

Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Wednesday 19 January 11 16:02 GMT (UK)
Just found the will of  W G Biddle 
he died on 16 January  1939  was living at Garthowen Church Lane
he left  £30108 9s 8d
to his  son Vyvvian    and daughter Blanche   (who is now married to a James Tudor Temple)

I think I will do a tree on Ancestry and hope I connect with somone  and see if maybe they want teh book .
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 12:31 GMT (UK)
The son, Vyvian Biddle shows up on the 1918 absent voters list for Leeds.

Forename    Surname       Rank                   Unit Ref                                 No.
 Vyvian          Biddle          2nd lieut        Duke of Wellington                    4449ln
                                                               regiment

There is also a medal card for this man, it seem to sugeust he changed units/regiments at some point.

Click for medal index card (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=1444663&queryType=1&resultcount=1)

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Thursday 20 January 11 13:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Migky
Thanks very much  for your help
and the point in the right direction
I went on  Ancestry  and got the medal role from there  this afternoon I will see if I can get any more information about him.

The book I have has been put to gather by either him  or  his brother or sisters .
Ive worked back    (I have  put the tree on Ancestry   in the hope that someone else is researching this family ) I just need to find a way of working forward
I would love to reunite  the family with the book .

However am enjoying the challenge   and the joy of re reading some of the poems

Thanks again Migky

Jackey  :)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 14:01 GMT (UK)
I know what you mean by enjoying the challenge. I had a book given to a child by her school teacher for regular attendance  in 1897, still no one has claimed it. I had the family tree for the family but must have lost it all on a hard drive that packed up on me a few years back.I might have another go at it soon?
By the way, what were the names of his brothers?

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 14:09 GMT (UK)
Just found the will of  W G Biddle 
he died on 16 January  1939  was living at Garthowen Church Lane
he left  £30108 9s 8d

What a lot of dosh to leave  :o I am sure i can find a link to my own family in this case or make one up if need  ;D

Click for today's money (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/currency/results.asp#mid)

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Thursday 20 January 11 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Migky
He had   1 brother  and 2 sisters

 Harold Biddle  1903
Blanche Biddle  1901    ( this was the lady who was left some of his will)
she marries a James T Temple in  1931
Muriel Biddle   1906

I wonder why they went mentioned in the will    maybe they had died .

There is also  pictures of an ancestors   house in the book
it seems to be some relation to their Grandmother Ellen Ralls   b 1837    the house is in Pershore   so will  work  back with here   the surname  Nutt comes in somewhere I think it could be  Ellens mother .

Love a good mystery

Will let you know what I uncover

Jackey  :)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 14:25 GMT (UK)
Ok i think you will have to cast your net a bit further a field  ;D
Son Harold William Biddle ( born 1903 ) sailed for France 1928.
His address at the time was the 74 ST. Micheals road, Headingly. Leeds
PM me your email address.

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Thursday 20 January 11 14:54 GMT (UK)
Hello

Harlod  must come back again  because I have also found a marriage  for a
Harold  W Biddle  to a  Ruth C Richardson  in North Leeds

Jackey
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 14:56 GMT (UK)
Also found a second " Passenger Lists Leaving UK " for a Harold Biddle born 10th Feb 1903. Now i am not sure if it is the same man? It could well be as he was listed as a manager on the 1928 record and director in March 1960 passenger list. This time it give an address of:
Cherry tree,
Hag farm road,
Burley In Wharfedale


Hag farm road is in  Ilkley, Bradford LS29, so not to far away?
Also, looks like Harold must have run a business?

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Thursday 20 January 11 15:08 GMT (UK)


Mmmmm  It says on this record that he was married   I wonder weather he went away on   business    as his wife is not on the list   .
That is if it is the same one 
If it had been down as Harold  W   we would   know for sure  ::)
The first one is defiantly  correct  because the address is the same as in the book

Jackey
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 15:12 GMT (UK)
Yes i did spot the Marriage in 1930 but did not post any children as they could still be alive and a no- no on rootschat for some strange reason?
Funny i can post the name of David Beckham's next child when it is born but not some one that may be dead or still alive.

Nowt funny- ya than folk as thee say up north ;D

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Thursday 20 January 11 15:17 GMT (UK)


 ;D ;D ;D

He may have gone backwards and forwards  with his  buisness
did you nitice that he  travelled 1st Class   there must have been  money

also  said   up ere int North  Where theres muck theres  brass     :)

Jackey
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 20 January 11 15:26 GMT (UK)

also  said   up ere int North  Where theres muck theres  brass     :)

Jackey

Ya reckon? cos every time i seem to find the muck, it is stuck to me shoe and stinks like hell  :-[


Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Jackey on Thursday 20 January 11 16:10 GMT (UK)
 Very  Good    :) :) :)
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: jwi45 on Sunday 10 July 16 18:40 BST (UK)
hi Jackey
Would like to talk to you about these if poss.  I sent you an email to an old address i had, did you get it?  thanks
Judith Redfern=
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 10 July 16 19:00 BST (UK)
Hi Judith...Jackey hasn't been on Rootschat since 2012 so you may not get a response.....you may be lucky though and get a reply.
Carol
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: jwi45 on Sunday 10 July 16 19:49 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Carol.  She has ancestry but i dont at the moment so cant contact her that way either.  hope she's ok.
Judith=
Title: Re: Found a book of poetry and pencil sketches
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 10 July 16 20:27 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Carol.  She has ancestry but i dont at the moment so cant contact her that way either.  hope she's ok.
Judith=

Quite willing to pass a message for you if you would like.  Send me a pm with details

Sandra