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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: wolliter on Tuesday 18 January 11 21:09 GMT (UK)
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hi does anyone know where i can find out about an industrial school
was called Shibden industrial school Southowram Halifax yorkshire
it was for catholic boys
looking for Michael Shearan was an inmate on the 1881 census age 13
thank you
karen
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More info for you here.....
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?11630-Industrial-school-of-the-Good-Shepherd-Southowram
Michael shown as a scholar on the 1881 census. Daniel Conroy shown as head of household.
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can anyone suggest where else i might look that link was no good really
but thanks for trying
i have rang the public recorde office at kew and no joy there
i really need to find out who his parents were
but no joy there as well
thanks again karen
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I would contact the local studies library at Halifax or the west yorks County archives as they are most likely to hold any extant records
Rob
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Hi
I would try the Halifax local studies library but the Industrial Schools were sometimes used as another name for the orphanage and they were also used as a type of Borstal.
The Huddersfield Examiner had an article about the Huddersfield Industrial School and they entitled it School for Scoundrels, it was also called the Ragged School.
Regards
John
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thank you for that i will give it a try
thanks karen
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I have a bit about the school on my Calderdale Companion website at
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/qq_32.html
Malcolm
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I have a bit about the school on my Calderdale Companion website at
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/qq_32.html
Malcolm
thank you malcolm
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Hi Wolliter,
The Shibden industrial school, and the Lister family are well documented in West Yorkshire Archives Calderdale, Halifax.
The references to the school are many, but the one that seems of most interest is
SH:7/JN/B/46-47
Title Shibden Industrial School, Southowram
Description [Also known as School of the Good Shepherd]
Date 1871-1931
Extent 253 items
Subject SCHOOLS
This is only available as original documents, if you are able to get to Halifax and examine the documents yourself it will be cheaper than having the archivist search them for you.
Regards,
Andy
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Hi Wolliter,
The Shibden industrial school, and the Lister family are well documented in West Yorkshire Archives Calderdale, Halifax.
The references to the school are many, but the one that seems of most interest is
SH:7/JN/B/46-47
Title Shibden Industrial School, Southowram
Description [Also known as School of the Good Shepherd]
Date 1871-1931
Extent 253 items
Subject SCHOOLS
This is only available as original documents, if you are able to get to Halifax and examine the documents yourself it will be cheaper than having the archivist search them for you.
thank you for your reply
much appreciated
karen
Regards,
Andy
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I am wondering about the success that anyone has had in looking for records from this institution. I am researching the name Fitzpatrick and the time around 1891. Thanks for any advice.
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Hello Igninio,
I have had access to al the records of the school.
They are held in Leeds Catholic archives.
http://www.dioceseofleeds.org.uk/archives/collections/priests_parishes_schools.php
I have been to the archives to research for someone and it was straight forward.
I made an appointment with Mr Finnigan, and he had the records I was interested ready to view on my arrival.
I arranged everything by email.
The Archives are located at;
Leeds Diocesan Archives
Hinsley Hall
62 Headingley Lane
Leeds
LS6 2BX
Regards,
Andy
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It pays to ask. Thank you very much. This is very important to me.
Sincerely Yours
Iginio Fitzpatrick
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Andy, I am wondering exactly what you were able to find. I am in the United States and I am not able to simply go to the archives. The archivest wrote to me and said that he had found John Fitzpatrick in the admissions register. I am wondering what exactly that means? Is there a file? Will he simply be sending me a paper with a name on it? I don't want to pester anyone but I am just wondering. If I must pay someone for research I am willing to do so.
What does the admission register consist of?
One more thing. John's brother Michael went to a reformatory. Can you give me any idea as to why that would happen? I am under the impression that he was probably stealing. Anyway, thank you for your help.
Iginio
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The Leeds Mercury of Saturday 26 January 1884 has an article on a government enquiry into this Industrial School. Michael Shearan gave evidence and is referred to as a former inmate. He would have been about 16 by this time. If he had committed some misdemeanor to get into the industrial school there may be an account of it in a newspaper.
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Hello Lizzie L and Iginio,
I have some background info on the school but sadly I need to scan them at work as they are A3.
I also have info on what I got the last time I went to the Catholic Archives in Leeds to show what you might get if you ordered the info.
I will dig it out, but may have to re scan it as its not here on my new computer
I will try and attach the article from the Leeds Mercury.
If you PM me your email Ignio I will send them all by email.
Keep getting an error, the file is too large to post on the site.
All for now,
Andy
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Hi information from Malcolm Bulls Calderdale Companion Shibden Industrial school or other name industrial school of the good Shepherd. It stood in Shibden Hall Rd Southowram Halifax.Est.1877 by John Lister,to provide training for about 150 catholic boys from deprived social backgrounds, It had chapel workshops swimming bath and gymnasium . [sounds very modern for its time] .boys left at 15 and were encouraged to emigrate many going to jobs in Canada. lots more info from Malcolm Bulls Calderdale Companion' Regards nancy T F H
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Thank you Andy. I was able to obtain valuable genealogical information because of your taking the time to tell me about these records. I received the document from the Leeds Diocesan Archives. I feel that the facts contained therein will lead to more information. John Fitzpatrick was sentenced to the Industrial School because of neglect. The document provided a date, a court and a judge. I hope I can find the court records now.
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Andy, I hope its not too late to send you my email.
Email Address removed Please use the private message system to exchange private information
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Hi Iginio,
I have sent you a PM with my email address.
At the top of the page, mouse over "my messages" then click on "Read Your messages" and you will be able to open it.
Andy
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Wolliter
Did you ever find out who Michael's parents were?
1871 census has him as Michael Shearden in WELLINGTON YARD, Leeds with parents James Shearden,35, labourer born Co Mayo, Ireland and Mary aged 25, flax mill hand also born Co Mayo, with sister Cathrine, 7, also flax mill hand, (as was poor little Michael) and half sister, Bridget, 19, a cloth mill hand. All siblings born in Leeds.
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hi just got back to doing family history again
if any one can help me on the industrial school at Halifax I would really appreciate it researching micheal shearan
thanks karen