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Title: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Russybuck on Friday 14 January 11 17:38 GMT (UK)
Hi, my wife is dead keen on finding out more of her Jewish roots on her nans side. She was Vera brown married to Robert brown, lived in tottenham and run a successful cafe.. Hope someone can help..
   Thanks
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 January 11 17:42 GMT (UK)
Hi

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She was Vera brown married to Robert brown,

With a surname like Brown - we need a lot more info please.  Can you just confirm that her maiden name was also Brown (ie) Brown married Brown

Their respective birthyears/birthplaces

Who were their parents

When and where did Vera & Robert  marry

Was she born Vera or Veronica Brown?

Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Russybuck on Friday 14 January 11 17:50 GMT (UK)
Sorry didn't expect a reply that quick!!
 I have my wife asking her mum so I will give you as much info as poss..
Thankyou
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Russybuck on Friday 14 January 11 18:37 GMT (UK)
Hi, she was Vera coltman born 1916 tottenham.
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Mort29 on Friday 14 January 11 18:40 GMT (UK)
this is probably her then - mother maiden surname of Dormer is shown in the index after 1911

Births Sep 1917
   
Coltman  Vera G  Dormer   Reg District of Edmonton  3a 824


and this will be her parents marriage - also in the Edmonton District

Marriages Sep 1916   

Coltman  Albert  to Dormer  Edmonton  3a 1169   
Dormer  Edith M  to Coltman  Edmonton  3a 1169   


Marrying in 1916 will mean they can be found in the 1901 census - hopefully ...

There seems to be only 3 Albert Coltman in the 1901 census - of an eligible age and marital status!

Albert born c1886, boarding in Spitalfields
Albert born c1892 son of Elisha & Jone in Hackney
Albert born c1892 son of Frederick & Annie in Poplar
 

You may have to get the 1916 marriage Cert to confirm Albert's Father's name and occupation.
 
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 14 January 11 18:44 GMT (UK)
And the marriage

Marriages September qtr 1916 

Albert Coltman/Edith M Dormer   Edmonton  3a 1169   
 
You are going to have to buy a copy of the marriage cert to establish their ages and their respective fathers names as there are several possible census entries
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Mort29 on Friday 14 January 11 19:09 GMT (UK)
There's multiple Edith (M) Dormers in the London area in 1901, but this one caught my eye in Hackney: her Father is an Edward T or J Dormer, in the China & Glass Trade....

 RG13; Piece: 221; Folio: 16; Page: 24 Hackney District

Edith M Dormer born c1896, St Lukes, London
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Russybuck on Thursday 20 January 11 19:48 GMT (UK)
That's fantastic thanks my wife and her mum was over the moon, they're trying to trace there Jewish roots to see where the originate from so this is great start..
  Don't suppose you have anything on buckleys do you. I need to find out for medical reasons. His name is Frederick Buckley born in rochford 6th April 1936. I have his marriage certain but it came with no parents at all so don't really know where to go buts important I find out. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Many thanks again
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 20 January 11 19:57 GMT (UK)
Is Frederick still alive - if so - his details cannot be published here

http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php

I am sending you a pm with his birth registration details
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Russybuck on Thursday 20 January 11 20:27 GMT (UK)
Hi, no my dad died in 1999 that's why I need to trace things as I believe his parents died young of cancer aswell. Thankyou
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 20 January 11 20:31 GMT (UK)
There is no Frederick Buckley death in 1999 with a 1936 birthyear
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: Russybuck on Thursday 20 January 11 20:42 GMT (UK)
Sorry time flies!!! He died in 1994 in west Suffolk hospital
Title: Re: Vera and Robert brown
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 20 January 11 22:14 GMT (UK)
No problem

I know you now have his parents details from the info I sent you - I have replied to your last pm and we can take it from there