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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: ringarosy on Thursday 13 January 11 01:45 GMT (UK)
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Help required deciphering this document please.
Helen
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Nathaniel Hubbard of Bo?kin in the county of Esix and Elinor Hill of this parish widow marryed the 26 of september 1694
Best I can do!!!
Edited
Suz
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My try:
Nathaniel Hubbard of [Boskin?] in the county of Esix and Elinor Hill of this parish widow marryed the 26 of december 1694
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Nathaniel Hubbard of Berkin ? county of Esix and Elinor Hill of this parish? marry the 26 if November 1694
Maybe?
Gillian
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Given the way everything else is written,could it be Barking.
George.
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I am editing my try -as I think Elinor was widow -too
Suz
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Thanks for the quick replies.
So we have a September, December and a November, i agree it's hard to tell. At least everyone agrees its Elinor Hill and that could be widow after her name, although there is no reference to his marital status.
Is Barking in Essex? (and is that how they used to spell it?)
Thanks .............Helen
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Hi Helen,
Here's my transcription - much like everyone else's, but I'm pretty sure it's "December":
Nathaniel Hubberd of Berkin in the
County of Esix and Eliner Hill of
this parish wdow marryed the 26
of desember 1694
The writer's "o" in "widow" looks like his "e"s in other words but I'm sure it's meant to be an "o" there. Could be either in "Eliner/Elinor".
Considering the spelling of "Esix" for Essex, I think Barking is a good bet for "Berkin" ;D
Barking was historically in Essex but is now considered a London Borough (Barking and Dagenham).
Cheers
Prue
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Thanks Prue,
That all makes sense.
Thanks to one and all for your swift and knowledgeable help.
Helen
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I'm going to disagree with folks here:
Nathaniel Hubbard of Berkin in the
County of Esix and Elinor Hill of
this parish weere marryed the 26
of Desember 1695
I couldn't see it as saying "widow", but I went to look at the image on Ancestry (it's from St Margaret Lothbury in the City of London). The same word appears in almost every entry in the image, and it seems rather unlikely that all the brides were widows. In fact the entry for Beniamin Perkins and Mary Boswell on 24 Sep 1695 also includes the word "widdow", so I'm now certain that this is "weere", i.e. "were".
As for the year, I too first thought it was 1694, but if you look at the whole page it's clear that it was 1695 - the "4" is very different (and clear).
Arthur
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I agree Arthur - it's not widow. I thought it was a bit strange especially since what we can see of the entry above ends the same way.
For the year I still see 1694, but it could be 1695 - if you've viewed the whole page Arthur, then you're probably right.
Alexander
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Nice work Arthur! I can see now it says "weore" or "weere" :)
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I'm happy to go with that Arthur, I thought if they had written widow for her they would have put something down for him. Sure can't see "weere" though for the life of me,, but I am not very good at his old writing. And thanks for looking at the whole page to settle the date issue...............Helen
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Hi I have come across this post and assume this marriage is the Nathaniel Hubbard of Bethanl Green who died in 1731?
I have found details of him here http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I14841&tree=Norfolk and think he may well be my ancestor.
I am descended from an Ebsworth Hubbard who married Martha Perry in February 1748/9 in a fleet marriage at Westminster.
Given the unusualness of the name I believe he is probably the son of Nathaniel named in his will, as quoted on this website.
Ebsworth Hubbard was apprenticed in 1728 to Thomas Chitty (named in the will as Nathaniel's son-in-law so Ebsworth's brother-in-law). The record states he was the son of Nathaniel Ebsworth Esq. I would therefore assume that as apprentices were generally around fourteen, that Ebsworth was born c1714.
I wonder what else you may please be able to tell me about the family and I wonder if perhaps if the information on the website is from you?
Kind regards,
Jon
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I think it's 'Bockin', i.e. Bocking near Braintree.
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According to the will, which is outlined on the weblink, he was buried in Barking, Essex, in 1731 so I would assume that this is in fact the intended place.
Kind regards,
Jon
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And, for what it's worth, I agree that it's 'were married' and December ;)
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There is even more information online about the Hubbard family and the Barking connection here:
http://www.foxearth.org.uk/CaptainBennett.html
And also more about Thomas Chitty here:
http://chittyoflondon.awardspace.co.uk/page45.html
What is interesting about this to me is the name of his son-in-law Samuel Seawell.
My Hubbards have a Samuel Seawell Hubbard baptised in the late 1790s. I had no idea where the surname came from and assumed it was a maiden name somewhere in the family. However it now seems clear it was in fact after this man.
All for now,
Jon
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Just for any future researchers there is also a little discussion on this topic on another board here:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.england.lnd.eolfhs/7061.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx
Kind regards,
Jon
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I came into this topic a bit late but familysearch.org has "extracted" the whole parish and their transcription is Nathaniel Hubberd/Eliner Hill, 26 December 1695, St. Margaret, Lothbury, London. Normally I recommend looking at their transcriptions and hope you can agree with them!
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On the marriage entry for Nathaniel Hubbard and Elinor Hill, he is described as of 'Barkin' 'Esix'. This was indeed Barking as he and several members of his family were all buried there. I have checked the same registers for baptisms but could not find any for Hubbards. Indeed these generations baptisms I have so far not found, only surmised from the various wills.
Elinor Hill was the daughter of Matthew Hill, a presbyterian minister who resided in Charles County, Maryland. Elinor was bequeathed a large tract of land in Maryland called Poppleton which she handed back to her American brethen - presumably when she settled back in England. This often copied indenture shows the link:
29 Nov 1717; Recorded at request of William PENN,planter. 09 Aug 1717, Indenture from Nathaniel HUBBARD of Goodman's Fields in Parish of St. Mary White Chapel, Middlesex, Gent., and Eleanor his wife, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Matthew HILL of Maryland in America, Gent., dec'd; for love and affection to her neices and nephews, for 5s; a parcel belonging to Eleanor HUBBARD called Poppleton of 200 arces on the west side of Wicomico River; one half part to Edith DUTTON, d/o _______ DUTTON, dec'd, neice of Eleanor, to use of Notley DUTTON, brother of Edith DUTTON and nephew of Eleanor; equal moiety to Elizabeth PENN, d/o William PENN and Elizabeth his late wife, dec'd, formerly Elizabeth DUTTON, and neice of Eleanor, for default of issue then to William PENN, brother of Elizabeth PENN, nephew of Eleanor; /s/ Nathaniel HUBBARD, Eleanor HUBBARD, Wit: Susannah HUBBARD, Jno. CRANWELL, Sr., Abra ATKINS, Isaac DELPEECH, Not. Pub.; 12 Nov 1717 Capt. John FENDALL and William HOWARD, atty., ack. deed.
Poppleton still exists, but is now a suburb of Baltimore.