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Title: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Mr Farenheit on Wednesday 12 January 11 06:35 GMT (UK)
I am completely new to this excellent resource and still finding my feet, so please forgive me if my question is posted in the wrong place or otherwise badly submitted.
I have done some research into the families of both myself and my wife and am very excited to have found what might be a common ancestor linking both our families.  Our relatives were all Church of Ireland.
In my case, my great, great grandfather was William Hall of Magheragall b c1830, d 1900, father John Hall and he married Mary (May) McBride in 1852.
My wife's great, great grandmother was Anna Maria Hall also of Magheragall, b c1840, father Robert Hall and she married John Bunting in 1857.
We are desperate to find out if William Hall and Anna Maria Hall were related in any way, but have been unable to find out any more information.  Perhaps John and Robert Hall were brothers?
Apologies if I haven't supplied enough information - we are hoping to visit Magheragall CoI graveyard to try and find out more, but the weather has not been kind so far!  Any help would be very gratefully received.
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 January 11 08:33 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat. You've done very well for your first post and given us all the information you should have- names, dates, religion, place.
The big problem, as you know, will be finding records far enough back to make any connections between the 2 Hall families. If William Hall was born c1830 and Anna Maria Hall c1840 then their fathers will both have been born long before the start of civil registration (and also married before registration of marriages) which leaves you dependant upon any existing church records.
Have you tried tracking down living descendants of either family to see if there's any family stories about being related to the 'other lot'?
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Mr Farenheit on Wednesday 12 January 11 09:59 GMT (UK)
Very many thanks for your speedy reply - all living relatives on both sides are as surprised as I was to find a Hall on my wife's side of the family.  All their attemps to research their family history had been hampered by the fact that my wife's grandmother's name had been incorrectly transcribed as 'Hunter', rather than 'Bunting' on an old repacement marriage certificate and they had assumed for years that they were decended from Hunters. 
I was able to find the error after much bafflement and research, but haven't been able to go any further back than the mid-C19, due to the lack of easily accessible information.  I am pretty sure PRONI hold the parish records for Magheragall, dating back to the C18, so hopefully a trip there when it re-opens and a look at the graves at Magheragall church might reveal more information.  Again, many thanks, you have made me feel very welcome!
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: bloodties on Wednesday 12 January 11 12:23 GMT (UK)
hi
On this site you will find headstone  of William Hall and his family
here is the link

http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?id=522&page=409&prevStartQuery=2040&theme=Infant&Send=Send

regards

just scrool down page to 4th headstone
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Mr Farenheit on Thursday 13 January 11 11:18 GMT (UK)
Wow!  That's amazing! Thanks so much for posting that, very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Magheragall on Saturday 29 January 11 00:39 GMT (UK)

Hello, you write about a John & Ann Bunting, there is a headstone in Magheragall Parish which reads as follows

Headstone Information Erected, By, Thomas Bunting, in memory of his parents, John and Ann Bunting, Also, his wife Eleanor A. Scott, who died 23rd April 1899, And his grandson Scott Bunting, Also the above named Thomas Bunting, who died 22nd September 1899, aged 59 years

yours

magheragall
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Mr Farenheit on Saturday 29 January 11 09:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you for this information - I managed to visit the church in Magheragall last week but somehow missed this headstone, although I did find out some more information about the Halls/Gambles/Buntings/McBrides. The people mentioned on the headstone you refer to are certainly my wife's relatives so we are very grateful to you for providing one more link on an ever-growing chain!
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Magheragall on Saturday 29 January 11 11:17 GMT (UK)
Hello

The headstone is at the Front of the Church, the side of Church facing Ballinderry Road in what looks like the oldest part of the grave yard, it is lying flat on the ground. I would suggest if you took a line from Church front door stright down to the road you would come across it about half way between door and road.

there is also a HALL grave on the same line but closer to church, large headstone in a wrought iron surround

Also I understand from an article in a magazine which I have a copy of but cannot cite it, it is a photocopy from 1983 there is also a Hall headstone which reads Here rest the remanins of Elizabeth Hall, late wife of John Hall of this parish, who departed this life 9th May 1802 Aged 51 years The article was written by Kathleen Neill with the help of the then minister Canon Musgrave
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: davey.h on Saturday 29 January 11 16:13 GMT (UK)
there are good records for maghergall when the proni reopens going back to at least 1780's my cousins family are the close's and where at the sames church
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 29 January 11 16:42 GMT (UK)
The microfilmed church records are available at Cregagh Library while PRONI is closed-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index.htm
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Teressa on Monday 07 February 11 15:47 GMT (UK)
Hi there ,there are Buntings at newtonards in ireland i no that one of the Bubtings moved to canada the Bunting side in my family is from my husband side dont no if this is any help or related just thout i would share this info to you Kind Regards   Teressa :) :)
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: kwardell2 on Tuesday 16 August 11 03:19 BST (UK)
Hi there ,there are Buntings at newtonards in ireland i no that one of the Bubtings moved to Canada the Bunting side in my family is from my husband side don't no if this is any help or related just thought i would share this info to you Kind Regards   Teressa :) :)

I'm related to Ann and john bunting,Ann is a brereton, brereton ,Wesley and Letitia bunting came to Canada in the 1850,
first Pickering Ontario,brereton stayed in Pickering was a prominent minister,Letitia married Joseph wardell and lived and died in strathroy Ont, Wesley also lived there. thomas and another brother stayed in ireland. I'm trying to find Joseph father which I'm sure belonged to the magheragall parish.in strathroy other families from ireland married wardells from the magheragall parish.

I'm looking for gravesite information on wardells bunting brereton thank Kevin wardell (*) Windsor Ontario

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Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Magheragall on Tuesday 16 August 11 11:10 BST (UK)
With reference to early headstone details, re bunting, the following are burial details

Scott Bunting 5 Copperfield Street Belfast Date of Funeral 4th June 1897 13 Months
Eleanor Ann Bunting Greenisland Date of Funeral 25th April 1899 Aged 59
Thomas Bunting Greenisland Date of Funeral 25th September 1899 Aged 59
 
magheragall
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Magheragall on Tuesday 16 August 11 11:13 BST (UK)
Further to previous post, the Bunting grave held in 3 names

Thomas Bunting Greenisland Station, 
John Bunting 160 Cooper Street Belfast 
Mrs H Bunting Low Quarter Magheragall 

this correct at 1895

yours

magheragall
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: alisonbeetee on Sunday 22 September 13 13:09 BST (UK)
Thank you for this information - I managed to visit the church in Magheragall last week but somehow missed this headstone, although I did find out some more information about the Halls/Gambles/Buntings/McBrides. The people mentioned on the headstone you refer to are certainly my wife's relatives so we are very grateful to you for providing one more link on an ever-growing chain!

Hi Mr Farenheit, John Bunting is my 3rd Gt grandfather. He was a shoemaker from Belfast according to my 2nd gt grandfather marriage cert, (Thomas Bunting, Stationmaster Greenisland). I know John was married to Ann Graham and would appreciate if you had any other information.  I think the Hall connection you are talking about if wife of John, brother of Thomas, to Anna Maria?  My Bunting family tree is on ancestry.co.uk if you want to have a look at what I've got.  Thank you
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: Magheragall on Friday 27 September 13 00:11 BST (UK)
that Bunting headstone that I mentioned in earlier post also has a masonic symbol on it, a compass

yours

magheragall
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: hnisc on Sunday 16 April 17 16:47 BST (UK)
Although not directly related to me an ancestor of mine married into the Hall family:

John Kennedy Addison Esq
Gender:   Male
Notice Type:   Marriage
Residence Place:   Upper Ballinderry
Marriage Date:   19 Jan 1865
Marriage Place:   Magheragal
Spouse:   Jane Hall
Title: Re: Halls of Magheragall c1850
Post by: rittrock on Sunday 29 March 20 21:59 BST (UK)
Good day
Does anyone know more of Richard Scott's background? It looks as if he had both Edward Bunting and Thomas Bunting as sons-in-law. He married Maria Watson and was one of the tenants mentioned in the Hertford estate management rumpus and 1872 libel case. Was he e.g. a brother or cousin of William Scott of Magheragall (died 1900)?
cheers