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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: OzJen on Wednesday 12 January 11 03:30 GMT (UK)
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Dear All,
I have a Wright family from Ballylisk in the Portadown area who I am trying to find out more about. I have just started working on my husband's family tree and I know that his maternal gt-grandfather was Thomas George "Tommy" Wright who died in 1968 in Ballylisk. He used to own a small shop and farm at the corner of Mullavilly Road and Tandragee Road; most of which is now the Ballylisk car dealership. My husband would love to hear anything people can tell about him, or to receive any information about this branch of the Wright family that people can share. We'd love to know more of the family story!
For now,
OzJen (Sydney)
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Hi,
Thomas George Wright married Mary Gilmore in Tartaraghan Church of Ireland, Lurganon 4 Nov 1919.
Regards
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In the 1911 census there are actually 2 Thomas George Wrights around the same age!
1) age 28, living with mother in Ballylisk (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Mullahead__Rural_/Ballylisk/331823/)
2) age 24, living with parents in Derrykeevan (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tartaraghan/Derrykeevan/302350/)
Both families are Church of Ireland.
Ten years earlier the 2 Thomas Wrights are listed with their families-
1) Thomas listed with parents in Ballylisk (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Mullahead/Ballylisk/1020462/)
2) Thomas G. in Derrykeevan (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tartaraghan/Derrykeevan/1032039/)
Since there are so many Thomas Wrights in the area you need to be very careful not to get confused when searching through any records.
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Thanks for the info and the caution, aghadowey. We've followed up the census documents and it is definitely the Thomas George Wright from Ballylisk that we're after ...
We know that he married Lillie Ann Ruddell, my husband's grandmother, and assume it was somewhere in a Chuirch of Ireland, perhaps in Portadown, possibly around 1923.
For now,
OzJen
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Sending you a PM
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Hello OzJen. Sent details in private message.
Cheers,
Jim
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I am also looking for WRIGHT's in the area of Portadown. My great grandmother was Mary Jane Wright, born 14 June 1863, daughter of James Wright and Jane Davidson. They were married 14 June 1849 at Loughall Church. This is all that I know of the family.
My grandmother and 2 of her sisters left Portadown in the 1920s and relocated to Philadelphia, PA, USA. I am sort of cut off from the family information so any help i can get would be greatly appreciated!
By the way, my great aunt married a Joseph Ruddell in Portadown...
Thank you,
Amy
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I am trying to reach Amy Cargill. I hope this somehow gets through to Amy. There was a "Miss Cargill" of Duluth(Minnesota?) who visited John Henry Ruddell and William George Ruddell in Morden Manitoba around 1904. The local Mord en Newspaper had a clip about it that says John Henry and William George were her cousins.
George Ruddell of Clinton Ontario was the father of John and William. We don't know of any brother or sister of George Ruddell senior. Family legend has it that George and a brother came from Armagh together!
Any other person who might read this and have some information please share!
Thanks
James Harvey Ruddell
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I grew up in Ballylisk ,my family moved there in the 1970s and I used to work in the shop after school. the shop was owned by Shortts and was on the ground floor of the house that I think belonged to Wrights. there are still wrights in the Ballylisk area but not sure if they are connected. the junction ( now a roundabout) at the Mullavilly road and tandragee road was always known as "wright's crossroads" There is a CoI church in Mullavilly and in Tandragee ( 2 miles away)
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'Amy' was last active on the site back in December 2011. However, if the person still has the same email address they registered with, then they will get notification of your post and may respond.
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Hi James,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
Amy is having problems with her email notifications at the moment. Hopefully I have managed to get a message to her so hope to see her back very soon.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hi All,
I received a message through Facebook that there were replies here. I am sorry I missed them. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with any Ruddells that went to Canada. It is quite possible that our Joseph stayed behind. There were Cargills in Minnesota who were related to the Cargill Grain/Salt operations but we are not connected to them, that we are aware. That branch of Cargills came over many years before ours did.
My grandmother and two of her sisters were the only ones to come here and their name was Allen. Wright was her mother's maiden name and I am hoping to find a connection to someone still in Portadown area. I have an older cousin who lives in the family home in Annaghmore but lost contact and do not know if he is still living. He disappeared from email before he could put me in touch with anyone else.
Thanks for all of the replies! I will check back more often!
Amy
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Hi Amy,
Great to know that you got my message ;D
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hi , I’m currently researching this family as I have just discovered that my relative was Henry Wright’s ( Tommy’s father) second wife. She was called Annie Mary nee Elliott.
They had a sonJames Elliott Wright who would have been Tommy’s half brother.
I have already found out about Tommy’s sister, Jane ( Moneypenny) and by coincidence I actually live within a mile of Ballylisk!
I would like to find out more about the family, especially James.
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Hi Elaine,
I've been dormant on genealogy for a couple of years due to life taking over so your message has dropped in out of the blue!
The Wrights are my husband's family and your email is very interesting and possibly the same family.
I don't remember Henry marrying a second time, or Tommy having a sister named Jane ...
I have him marrying Ann Burke and that's all.
I will go back through the details to refresh my memory and I'll be in contact over the next few days.
For now,
OzJen
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We know that he married Lillie Ann Ruddell, my husband's grandmother, and assume it was somewhere in a Chuirch of Ireland, perhaps in Portadown, possibly around 1923.
From GRONI - https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Lily Ruddell married Thomas Wright 20th June 1923 Craigavon
I have him marrying Ann Burke and that's all.
Presumably this was the marriage on 18th August 1866 at Mullavilly Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11540/8244507.pdf
Ballylisk - https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/kilmore-lower-orior-portion/mullahead-rural/ballylisk/
His death in 1910 at Ballylisk. Informant was his son, Thomas G Wright. #362
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05438/4521070.pdf
This is likely to be the death of Annie........GRONI
Annie Wright 8th November 1927 84 Female Banbridge
KG
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Thank you, Kiltaglassan.
Much appreciated.
My husband is on a disconnected branch of the family and we are in Australia, so it's hard to get specific information.
We hadn't had Tommy and Lillie Ann's marriage date before, or Ann Burke's actual date of death either, so your information was very welcome!
For now,
OzJen
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Hi , I’m currently researching this family as I have just discovered that my relative was Henry Wright’s ( Tommy’s father) second wife. She was called Annie Mary nee Elliott.
They had a sonJames Elliott Wright who would have been Tommy’s half brother.
I have already found out about Tommy’s sister, Jane ( Moneypenny) and by coincidence I actually live within a mile of Ballylisk!
I would like to find out more about the family, especially James.
As OzJen said, her Henry Wright was only married once, and died in 1910 aged 85. (See reply #15 and also 1901 and 1911 censuses for Ballylisk in reply #2).
Your Henry Wright who married as a widower to Annie Minnie (Mary) Elliott in 1903 was a merchant and was resident in Teemore, Tandragee. He also died in 1910, but was aged 52 and died at Teemore. His son (from his first marriage) Thomas was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10244/5728331.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05422/4515385.pdf
His son James Elliott Wright was born in 1906.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01722/1681278.pdf
This is James in the 1911 census with his mother, step-brother, and his mother’s two sisters-in-law.
Residents of a house 16 in Teemore (Mullaghbrack, Armagh).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Mullaghbrack/Teemore/331772/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001642713/
This is Henry Wright (as a widower) with his son in the 1901 census
Residents of a house 32 in Teemore (Mullaghbrack, Armagh)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Mullaghbrack/Teemore/1020409/
Teemore townland
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/mullaghbrack-oneilland-west-portion/mullaghbrack/teemore/
KG
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Thank you for all your help. Very confusing with two Henry Wrights with sons called Thomas and wives called Annie, both living close to each other.
Have now sorted out our two Wright families and I’m happy to help Ozjen as I’m living here and able to easily research her Tommy Wright.
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From PRONI Will Calendars - https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Full Abstract :
Probate of the Will of Henry Wright late of Teemore County Armagh Farmer who died 4 September 1910 granted at Armagh to William Peebles Williamson Farmer and William Henry Wright Solicitor.
Date of Grant : 10 May 1911 Effects £1,152 5s. 7d.
(Handwritten copy of image available)
Full Abstract :
Probate of the Will of Thomas Wright late of Teemore County Armagh Retired Merchant who died 14 January 1900 granted at Armagh to James Wright and James Beattie Farmers.
Date of Grant : 26 February 1900 Effects £3,636 3s. 11d.
(Handwritten copy of image available)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05774/4632230a.pdf
KG