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Title: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: fridayschild on Thursday 06 January 11 14:58 GMT (UK)
I know that my Great Great Aunt Margaret Emily Simon nee Lewis was living at 7 Elizabeth St, Preston in 1911, they had previously lived in Burnley and all 3 of her children were born there.
Both her Daughters married, Myfanwy to Frederick Spencer and had 3 sons and Helen to John Evans. she also had a son called Alfoncis, but I can't find any information about when he died or whether he married
Margaret died in 1931 aged 66.
I am sure that there must be some distant relatives left alive and I would love to contact them and share family information.
 
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 06 January 11 15:36 GMT (UK)
Alfoncis was b 1896 per freebmd and Myfanwy in 1898 and Helen in 1900

Alfoncis was killed in WW1

Alfred Simon Death Date: 26 Oct 1917 France & Flanders aged 21 -  Killed in action Western European Theatre of War

Enlistment Location Preston
Private  - Loyal North Lancashire Regiment 2/4th Battalion (Territorial Force) Number 200910
 
Son of Margaret Emily Simon, of 12, Elizabeth St., Preston, Lancs, and the late Thomas Simon.

www.cwgc.org
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 06 January 11 15:52 GMT (UK)
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Helen to John Evans. she also had a son called Alfoncis, but I can't find any information about when he died or whether he married

Where did you get this info from as there is no birth reg.  Helen and John married in 1921
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: fridayschild on Thursday 06 January 11 16:01 GMT (UK)
Sorry I didn't put that very well, Alfoncis was the son of Elizabeth and Thomas, I can't find any children for Helen. Many thanks for the inforamtion about Alfoncis, it had never entered my head that he may have been killed in WW1
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 06 January 11 17:53 GMT (UK)
There are no Evans/Simon births in Lancashire on freebmd and I can't find any death for a Helen Louisa Evans

If John died - she may have re-married
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 06 January 11 18:12 GMT (UK)
She was Helen Louisa U Simon - there is a marriage for a Helen L U Evans   in 1977 to John T Roberts in Delyn Clwyd.

There is then this death

Helen Louisa U Roberts died March qtr 1979 - born  18.1. 1901
Glyndwr  Clwyd Volume 24 Page 0571
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: fridayschild on Thursday 06 January 11 18:18 GMT (UK)
Thats sounds like it could be her doesnt it? but you wouldn't have expected her to remarry at the age of 78....it's interesting that the marriage took place in Wales as her Mother was born there!
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: Heather Spencer on Sunday 09 November 14 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hello! My name is Heather Spencer, daughter of Ramon Spencer who was the son of Frederik and Myfanwy Spencer (nee Simon and the sister of Alfred Simon who was killed at the Battle of Yvres on 26th Oct 1917)  - so I believer we may be related! I am researching Great Uncle Alfred and would love to connect with you to find out how we are related. Kindest regards Heather
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: Heather Spencer on Sunday 09 November 14 19:39 GMT (UK)
I should add that Alfonse was Alfred - he is named in a church in Preston, and also on the Tyne Cot memorial. Myfanwy named her first son after him but Uncle Alfie died at 40 of a heart attack. The North Loyal Lancashire Regiment are going to post a photo of him on their site this week (I spoke to them yesterday 8th Nov).
Title: Re: Simon Family of Burnley and Preston
Post by: fridayschild on Sunday 09 November 14 19:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Heather,
I can't tell you how lovely it is to make contact with you, only the other day I found an article in the Burnley Express from 1907 about Margaret Emily Simon taking her husband to court to ask for a seperation order. Have you ann Ancestry account? if so I can send you an invitation to view the family tree.
Joan