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Title: ***Completed***Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: byrneli on Wednesday 05 January 11 15:29 GMT (UK)
I hope someone can help i need to find some patient information but dont know where to start. 

All i know if the name was Robert Walsh born 1919 in Chorlton.  He was my dads brother and was sent there the family never spoke about it and as my dad has died i dont know where to start.

I do know he was later transferred to a Hospital in Radcliffe but not sure on the name or where. 

Any info where i can start would be helpful

Thanks

Lisa
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Wednesday 05 January 11 16:00 GMT (UK)
Only one i can think of was " Florence Nightingale Hospital "  in Radcliffe and is still there to this day, but not sure if they took mentally ill patients or just Infectious diseases ?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1757&page=21

Wonder why he was not sent to Prestwich hospital?
Migky ;)
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: lizanne on Wednesday 05 January 11 16:05 GMT (UK)
My husband's family come from Radcliffe . I have just spoken to my MIL who's in her eighties and she knows nothing of a mental hospital there.
There was however one at Radcliffe on Trent Notts., I think it was called Saxondale.
You may find more information on the Nottinghamshire boards.

This link may give you more help re Lunatic Asylums.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070718040644/http://www.mdx.ac.uk/WWW/STUDY/4_13_Ta.htm#East%20Midlands

The Florence Nightingale Hospital was just a little cottage hospital .
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Wednesday 05 January 11 16:06 GMT (UK)
Any records for the above hospital and Prestwich hospital can be found at GMCR. They do a free ( now not sure if it is 15 or 30 min ) search.
Greater Manchester County Record Office (with Manchester Archives)

56 Marshall Street
New Cross
Manchester
M4 5FU

Telephone:  0161 832 5284

email        archiveslocalstudies[at]manchester.gov.uk    Notes* swop [at] for @ in the email address.

Migky  ;)

Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: byrneli on Wednesday 05 January 11 16:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the help

I think it was just a home that he was sent to in radcliffe not a mental one.  I am trying to fine a little more info so i can post it on here to see if you can help. 

Thanks for the other replies i will look into them

Lisa
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: byrneli on Wednesday 05 January 11 17:02 GMT (UK)
I have just find out that he got moved to Redbank home in radcliffe and died there.  Does anyone know where i can get the info for Redbank from.

Appartlently when they closed calderstones they moved residances back into the community.  But that is all my mum knows

Thanks

Lisa
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 05 January 11 17:13 GMT (UK)
Not quite sure of the geography of that area,  but Prestwich was a large hospital in that vicinity.

But it is likely that they have destroyed a large proportion of the records for that date, simply because of the space taken up by storage.
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Wednesday 05 January 11 17:21 GMT (UK)
It might be worth you contacting Bury archives to see if they hold any records on Redbank?

http://www.bury.gov.uk/leisureandculture/libraries/archives/default.asp

What name and when did he die?

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Wednesday 05 January 11 17:25 GMT (UK)
Also i am not sure you would be given much personal details of any inmate/patient with them dieing so soon. Think the hundred year rule applies here? but could be wrong?

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: cathyaus on Thursday 06 January 11 00:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa
I  had great success with getting information from Calderstones Mental Hospital back in 2008.

My husband's aunt was placed there & she was rarely spoken about - my husband's youngest sister didn't even know about this aunt !

I originally had some trouble getting a return email but finally my email was sent to the right area. Try this email - & mark it as Medical records - archives (The email I had was an actual person's email - but they may not still work there so try this one...)
 info@calderstones.nhs.uk


When I sent my email to the right area - I explained that I wanted the information to obtain her medical condition & why she was originally admitted for family medical history reasons. We also asked about her death & place of burial. Attached to the email was a copy of her birth certificate that we already had & that had been issued in 1927 (she was born in 1926)

We received a reply very quickly giving a  summary of the aunt's life. She was admitted to Calderstones in 1945 (19 years old) & discharged to a hostel in 1979 -where we have no idea what happened to her until her death in 1984. The summary from Calderstones filled us in on the institutions she had been in since the age of 5 ,some family history that we didn't know about & a general medical history. We didn't actually get any of her file but we were very happy with what we received as I had been searching & many other institutions destroy their records after 20 or 30 years (& it was free  :D).

Wishing you luck with your search !
Cathy
 
Title: Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: byrneli on Tuesday 18 January 11 12:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the info Cathy i will give it ago and see what happens
Title: ****completed****Re: Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: byrneli on Monday 31 January 11 10:59 GMT (UK)
Just want to let you know this email worked and i have found some interesting stuff

Lisa  ;D
Title: Re: ***Completed***Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: cathyaus on Monday 31 January 11 12:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa
Glad that the email worked & that you got some information. They are very nice people at Calderstones - willing to help with information.


Thanks for letting me know  :D
Cathy
Title: Re: ***Completed***Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Monday 31 January 11 12:28 GMT (UK)
Congratulations :)
It might be handy to give us a clue of what you found so others looking might know what they can find? I don't mean anything personal but just clues as to what can be found and where it can be found.

Migky  ;).

Title: Re: ***Completed***Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: byrneli on Monday 31 January 11 13:16 GMT (UK)
Hi

Yeah no problem i just did what cathy advised on the thread.  I sent an email to the address she gave me stating that i was looking for the mechical records for my uncle as my father had died and that i had no one to ask.  I said i needed to know for the medical history for my family. 

The email went to a few places but this morning i opened my email and had a reply telling me alot of info i never knew like who visited him, date he was ammitted and fromwhere, his medical history and the date he was moved. 

So my advise whould be to use the email address on this thread as it worked for me.

Thanks again

Lisa
Title: Re: ***Completed***Calderstones Mental Hospital
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Monday 31 January 11 13:31 GMT (UK)
The email went to a few places but this morning i opened my email and had a reply telling me alot of info i never knew like who visited him, date he was ammitted and fromwhere, his medical history and the date he was moved. 
Lisa
A great result for you then.  Most other records we come across never give such great details as you listed above. Now that is what i call a window in to the past.

Migky  ;)