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Title: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: hen2010 on Tuesday 04 January 11 13:29 GMT (UK)
Hi There,

Can anyone help me, I'm trying to find out about my 2x Great Grandmother Angelina Tompkins (nee Freeman) she was at St. Crispin's and died there, but I've been trying to find some information about her time there but have not come up with anything..I would be very grateful for and information received.

Thanks Hen2010
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: grubheam on Tuesday 04 January 11 13:45 GMT (UK)
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O64003

See on bottom of above webpage - patient cards hold at Northamptonshire Record Office.

Perhaps you can try email to them fopr advice.
Good luck
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: hen2010 on Tuesday 04 January 11 14:23 GMT (UK)
Ok will give it a go Thank you very much Grubheam

Hen2010
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: hertford on Friday 28 January 11 17:09 GMT (UK)
I had difficulty finding information about a great aunt who was in St Crispins for many years.The local record office told me that nothing under 100 years would be released to me (confidentiality rules)) unless I paid one of their researchers £20 per hour to have a look. I did this, the info was minimal for £40.
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: Jellis on Monday 31 January 11 08:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Hertford

How long ago was your g aunt's research done?  A friend told me that they had changed the 100 year rule so she was able to view her relatives records.  I'm sorry I can't remember what they'd changed it to.  I just checked and the record office research fees are now £23 per hour.

Last year, we viewed and photographed the pages pertaining to my husband's g uncle who was in the institution from 1900-1923 when he died.

The records were extensive and very informative, naming his father and giving details of his illness.  We even have a photograph of him, so we were fortunate.

Incidentally, the hosptial was called The Berrywood Aslyum (Upton) in early times.
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: hertford on Monday 31 January 11 16:54 GMT (UK)
It was just a year ago, my great aunt died there in 1953. The poor woman had been there since 1920.I will visit the NRO and try again later this year.
She spent some time in an institution in Leicester because Berry Wood was used as a World War 1 hospital for soldiers for a few years.
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: Jellis on Monday 31 January 11 17:38 GMT (UK)
When Great Uncle Fred was there he was moved to a hospital in Lincolnshire for the duration of the Great War. 

May I make a suggestion?  If you email the NRO they will tell you if the records are now open for viewing.  It could be the records are still closed as it was a later period.  We sent them an email about Fred and they confirmed the records were there and could be viewed now.

Good luck
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: hertford on Tuesday 01 February 11 16:25 GMT (UK)
The NRO archivist has told me that the 100 year rule ( Data protection Act) still applies to the records and referred to the research service for answers to the contents of the records.
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: Jellis on Tuesday 01 February 11 16:32 GMT (UK)
That's disappointing!  I was so sure that my friend said the 100 year rule had been reduced.

I must admit I'm a bit puzzled as to why the 100 year rule doesn't apply when the research is done by the NRO, unless, of course, they think we're going to sneak a look at other patients' records  :o
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: Jellis on Tuesday 01 February 11 16:51 GMT (UK)
I just had a look at the NRO website, and it is, indeed, as they told you.  The records are subject to a 100 year closure rule so I was wrong.

I just looked again at Great Uncle Fred's records.  He was tranferred to Bracebridge Asylum in Lincolnshire in November 1915 where he stayed until after the war.

Janet
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: hertford on Tuesday 01 February 11 18:38 GMT (UK)
A medic friend told me that  old records were sometimes joined together and may have info on more than 1 person.

Are you the Janet who was interested in Hancocks?
Title: Re: St. Crispin's Hospital Northampton
Post by: Jellis on Tuesday 01 February 11 20:40 GMT (UK)
The St Crispin's records are in huge books; massive volumes, so it would be too easy, perhaps, for someone to turn the page and look at someone else's records.

I am interested in Northampton Hancock's but so is another Janet.  Her surname begins with 'C' if I remember.

Janet