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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: decklin on Monday 03 January 11 15:59 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I am trying to read the cause of deathfrom this record. I think what it starts off with is "tuberculosis of kidney" but I can't read what it says under that.
Many Thanks
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Yes Tuberculosis of the kidney and underneath it says POST OPERATIVE ANAEMIA in other words there was excessive bleeding after an operation which was done probably to remove the infected kidney.
Tuberculosis is always thought of primarily a disease of the lungs and that is the most common form but it can affect bones, glands and skin and as you know the kidneys, even the bowels. Wherever the infection settles. Blood pressure would fall very low if there was excessive loss during the operation and that is dangerous not to mention the great weakness an d shock which would result from great blood loss.
Viktoria.
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Wow. That is so interesting. None of my family new this information. It was never spoken about.
Thank you very much.
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I think it's Post Operative Anuria which is something follows kidney failure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anuria
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Again T.B. is always thought of as a disease of poor people living in poor conditions but that was not necessarily so. It could be contracted from milk from cows not T.T.attested, it was then often a glandular form
affecting the lymph glands in the neck but of course any part of the digestive system also .This is why Pasteurisation of fresh milk was such an advance. Remember milk was sold "raw" straight from the cow- baccilli included even in big towns.
The T.B. of the lungs was an airborne infection and spread when affected people coughed etc.but even breathing out spread it .Young active people almost always succumbed quicker than older ones .One of my aunties died from it, she worked in an office with an old man who had been a patient for years .He outlived her. Fresh air, really not the norm in industrial overcrowded areas was a good preventative but by no means to be relied on, however it formed part of the cure which
before anti-biotics consisted of fresh air-rest-good diet and if necessary collapsing the affected lung to rest it..What they did if both lungs were affected I`m`not sure`!!!.` Glad to have helped. Viktoria. P.S. Geoff I agree, not Anaemia, I should have cleaned my specs !
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Thank you both for this information. He was only 37 at the time.
I have passed it on to my mother and aunties (this was their grandfather that they never met)
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My mum's eldest sister died of TB aged 23, she coughed so much she broke blood vessels in her neck and bled to death (and yes I have the death cert to prove the family history). Although the family lived in Manchester they were not poor, the father worked as did the elder daughters and none of the others in the household became ill.
Lizzie
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Thre is a condition called Haemoptysis, where blood is coughed up-- very typical of Tuberculosis( as well as other diseases of the lungs.)It can be so severe that it was sometimes given as the cause of death when it really is a symptom .
We all know dramatic scenes where the hero or heroine lies on a couch coughing up blood, well sadly it was like that for T.B. patients in the old days .Mum used to tell us of her lovely sister dying on the couch , and of her having to eat RAW LIVER SANDWICHES, to get some iron into her as a health food.( UGH YUK YERRRGH) This was 1910. She said how lovely her skin was, almost transparent. Such sadness.
Viktoria.
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The causes of death on my aunt's death cert were 1.Tuberculosis, 2. Haemoptysis 3 days. Not quite so dramatic as my mum "remembered". She would have been 9 at the time and said her sister died in a convalescent home, whereas she actually died at home. I guess she had the coughing fit whilst in the home which started the haemoptysis and so she was sent home to die.
She was a very beautiful lady, I have photographs and a drawing of her and although her other adult sisters were pretty, she was stunning.
Lizzie
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Haemoptysis isn't an illness - it's the latin term for coughing up blood, whatever the cause.
Don't read the rest of this if you're squeamish!
Sometimes haemoptysis can be the direct cause of death, if a major blood vessel in the lungs ruptures - the person can cough up pints of blood and die of blood loss in a matter of minutes.
This appears to have been the fate of one of my ancestors; and I think might have happened to John Keats, the poet - or maybe one his friends or acquaintances? I certainly remember reading about it in connection with Keats.
It's uncommon but still occasionally happens these days, more often due to a lung tumour eroding through the wall of the blood vessel; it's a quick but very messy and unpleasant death, not least of all for those in the near vicinity.
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Hi, it definately looks like anuria to me. No urine production. Presumable due to extensive disease of the kidney/s due to the T.B. Anuria is a major symptom of kidney failure.
Regards
Kathb
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I doubt the anuria would be due to renal TB, it would be more likely to be a post-operative complication -- perhaps from blood loss during the operation.
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Well yes, Keats had Tuberculosis, so he would die coughing up blood "Haemoptysis".
My Dad had lung cancer and as it was very,very close to a major artery ,inoperable .We were warned that as it grew and invaded this blood vessel he would haemorrhage profusely and it would be most distressing , most of all for him. It is arguable whether the Haemoptysis would be the cause of death or the cancer being the cause of the Haemoptysis would be the cause of death. On his death cert it says Carcinoma Bronchus.Mercifully he had a massive heart attack before the haemorrhaging started. There is no mention of that on the death cert as a heart attack often happens in cancer patients as their condition deteriorates .In Dad`s case it was a mercy and I have known it happen to friends in the later stages of cancer.
Things have improved such a lot ,all this was 37 years ago and in no way comparable with the wonderful treatment available today .
Viktoria.
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As Annie65115 says, haemoptysis can be the direct cause of death.
About 20 years ago, I had a neighbour with lung cancer [smoking related - be warned!].
One morning I heard him having his usual coughing bout for about 15 seconds, then he swore, then silence; next minute his daughter came racing up our back stairs calling for help because "Dad's dead! There's blood everywhere"
that's how quickly it can take you.
Dawn M